Should Maggette be traded?

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SteelLAC2010
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This is what the clippers need what they're missing from Maggettee is distributing the ball which causes turnovers, inconsistent jump shot, lack of defensive presence to the court. Which leaves Maggettee as a trade bait.

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From TSN quotes:

With enough quickness to drive off the wing, Corey Maggette can still score despite an inconsistent jump shot. As the Clippers' second-best scorer, he should be able to play a more prominent role, but he can't seem to get into coach Mike Dunleavy's good graces in order to receive the playing time that would allow him to be more of a force offensively. That leaves Maggette as potential trade bait entering the summer.

Tim Thomas parlayed a decent playoff run with Phoenix into a long-term contract with the Clippers and promptly returned to his typical underachieving status. After shooting a career-low 41.4% from the field, there is little reason to expect more than backup minutes out of Thomas, which is unfortunate because he's capable of more.

Williams is a vet who will crash the boards, but he shouldn't see a lot of action in the frontcourt rotation.

If the Clippers are going to address their small forward needs in free agency, they might pursue Jerry Stackhouse, Luke Walton or Jason Kapono who, admittedly, all bring something different to the court. Morris Peterson also might draw some interest here.

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DRAFT

14th - Acie Law IV, Thaddeus Young, Javaris Crittenton

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The Clippers have approximately $59-million committed to salaries for next season

Needs: Point Guard, Small Forward

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Maggette

Sterling and Baylor like to keep him but Dunleavy doesn't which leaves a lot of unanswered questions.

nymets4243
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Alright my first post....Why is everyone down on Maggette he consistantly goes to the line for us and brings energy...

and as for our draft why is their no love for Rodney Stuckey??? I want him more than Acie my top 4 picks for our draft would be

1) Rodney Stuickey

2) Acie Law

3) Javaris Crittenton

4) Nick Young

SteelLAC2010
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Stuckley should be picked at 14 he's the best player available

SteelLAC2010
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Nick Young and Alice Law will be picked higher than 14. Crittenton and Stuckley will be where the Clippers want for the Clippers draft Stuckey

david
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First of all welcome nymets4243! I agree- why trade Maggette unless you can get a GREAT player in return? You'd be losing 16-20 points/game, + the energy & athleticism. As far as Dunleavy not liking Maggette I'm not sure if that's the case anymore- here's an excerpt from a recent LA Times article that shows they're good now:


Next season will be Dunleavy's fifth as Clippers coach, and while Kobe and the Lakers are fussing and feuding, the second-best player in the city, Elton Brand, is quietly preparing to make sure there is no repeat of his mediocre 2006-07 season. Dunleavy also says he and Corey Maggette have begun to address a failure to communicate that split them badly last season.

"Corey and I understand each other better now," Dunleavy says. "I think our relationship is good."


As far as Stuckey goes I think he's very intriguing. I mean we need a point guard who can score, and he certainly fits the bill. Even though he's not a "pure" PG, I don't think we need one in the offense we run. Another plus is that he can fill in at SG too if needed.

jlemmen43
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I believe in keeping Maggette. Let him know that they arent trading him this year and they'll let him decide what's best for him after that. He brings lots of energy...Besides Singleton and Diaz, he is our energy man. HE CHANGES THE TEMPO OF OUR OFFENSE & that is especially important. It worked pretty well once Dunleavy got him starting, settled the differences and let him loose. Just not soon enough for us to break into the playoffs 2 years in a row. We got a great thing with Maggette going. Sure he's a bit inconsistent and doesnt play as good of D as you'd want. But we do have Q-Ross, who plays stellar D and is Maggette's main sub at SF. Bottom line: It took a while, but Maggette has shown that he's for real. We wont get equal value trading him away. thats for sure.

I like Rodney Stuckey, I think my only concern may be the small school experience...but that doesnt mean everything. If he can play the point and shoot the lights out, he's our best bet at #14. I still would put Acie Law and Nick Young above him, but they may be gone at 14. I think Stuckey has a bit more value than Crittendon.

ether
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I cast another vote for keeping Maggette. The quoted article missed out on two factors: His relationship with the coach improved, and so did his jump shot. By the end of the season, he was much more consistent with the J, especially later in the clock. Remember when he used to launch it up without any ball movement ... clang! Not so in the last two motnhs of the season.

I'm not a huge Thomas fan either, but he deserves a little more love. When he goes to the rim, he is always in control ... few turnovers and smooth finish. He always keeps the ball high when he goes in; wish he could teach Kaman that.

toohipcliptoslip
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A qualified KEEP HIM. I have love-hate feelings about CM . He's played like a bull moose until the end of last season, then he played almost to his potential. Any trade for a stellar player will of course include him but don't let him go cheap. As far as Thomas, remember the Bulls benched him for attitude problems

SteelLAC2010
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Tim Thomas should be looked at more closer next season then even though he shoots em he does shoot too much without passing the ball. Corey Magettee I liked him during their run in March can he show that next season we always can make adjustments to that occasion if they watch and study the film. That's what I like about Coach D he always watches the film and see what is right and what is wrong to make adjustments the next game. The western conference is going to be tough next year. Reason is because of quickness, shot selection, decision making, more of a fast physical game which leads to more of an offensive presence.

EB
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Yep Western Conference will be Way more tougher than this year. GS will be a lot better now having Jackson and Harrington for a whole season. Plus the Continuing improvement of Monta Ellis. Denver will have A.I. a whole season now .Seattle and Portland with their new members should do tons of damage. Plus it looks like the Lakers are looking to pull a big trade to have success now and to keep kobe happy. So this team that we got now IMO will not even make the playoffs. We have to do something big if we even think about being contenders in the next few years.

SteelLAC2010
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we need to make 2-3 additions to make that happen I dunno we definitely need a F/C and a PG/SG and a small forward and we should be playoff contenders it's pretty tough to do though

SteelLAC2010
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we already know what we need we're just waiting what happens when we hit the free agent market after the Draft.

jlemmen43
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A tweak here, a tweak there is all we need...what's quote "on-paper" means nothing. It's all about Execution. The teams in the West definitely have the upper hand, and it seems like its getting even more competitive, but I wouldnt let teams like Denver, Golden State and the Lakers fool you because they've got better on paper. They've got just as much work to do as the Clippers, if not more, if they want to make the playoffs. Seattle and Portland...Oden and Durant wont change them overnight, but it will be good to see them getting some good franchise players to keep from drifting further down.

SteelLAC2010
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It defintely helps but if we did replace Maggette would we get a player that's equal value to him? He can still opt-out after next season.

SteelLAC2010
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We filled up a hole on our roster what we need now to get very deep is another point guard since Livingston got injured when we get rid of Maggettee that takes a lot of deepness out and less versatility to our roster.

SmyLee
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"Trade Maggette"?! HELL NO!!

TD
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Nice graphics! Maggette may look like a 5th wheel by the end of the season if Thorton plays the way he's been tauted. I'm also hoping Diaz will be competing for Mobley's minutes by that time. Wouldn't it be nice to move solid vets to backup spots.

jlemmen43
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HEY SMEYELEE is BACK!!!! Awesome!!

ether
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Yeah, I also thought that if LAC traded Corey, then Smeyelee would be posting to someone else's site. That would be our loss. cry

JamFan
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The Miami Heat have apparently made overtures to the Clippers for Corey Maggette. It is unclear what they are offering as of yet, and it is unclear to me what they have that we would want. But they can start with Dwade and Shaq.

david
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I doubt that Miami would do a Wade or Shaq for Maggette trade Smile. They probably want to unload mediocre players + picks for Corey. I say extend Corey's contract now or else these trade rumors could become a distraction during the season.

jlemmen43
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David...What are the rules on extending contracts while over the cap?? Can it be done? I know you can re-sign and go over the cap.

JamFan
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Despite the troubles that Maggette and Dumleavy were having early on last season, it was easy to see that as the season progressed, it was EB and Maggette carrying the team, night in and night out. If we won, it was because EB and Maggette delivered. They were the only guys you could relying every night, not just sometimes. Even on nights when Maggette struggled early and only had 7 points at half time, in the second half he would get it going, end up at the free throw line, and the next thing you know he had 20. So, the Clips could trade him, and he is healthy, but you would have to get something of equal value in return. And a healthy Corey Maggette is worth a lot. Especially for what he is getting paid. I'm like David, you better extend him this summer, it is a problem if you don't. But extending him means going form 6 mil a year to...........what, maybe 8-10 mil a year. Kaman is getting paid more than that and Corey is worth more than Kaman. If Corey gets traded it may be more about what extending him does to our cap issues than anything else. And not extending him might mean losing him next summer. It is actually a problem that you all have to start thinking about. Because I'm sure Elgin is thinking about it. If you can't extend him because of the cap, then you may have to trade him or gamble on getting nothing for him next year.

david
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I think it can be done- e.g. Kaman had his exteneded before the season ended. I think as long as the new contract takes effect after the upcoming season then it should be fine.

david
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Yeah it's going to cost like $8-10 mil/year for Corey. But since Donald Sterling really likes him and wants to keep him I think he wouldn't mind paying that much, though he doesn't want to pay the luxury tax.

jlemmen43
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I'm assuming Cassell will retire and his contract is off our books. Livingston's will be too if we dont keep him. Aaron Williams will be a FA next year, so that helps. We need to trade Tim Thomas's contract, but there's no point in trading him if we cant pick up something good, cuz Thomas does play pretty well at times.

david
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Yeah good call JLemm- if Sam retires or leaves and Aaron is off the books, then there should be way more than enough to re-sign Maggette. I'm not so sure if Sam wants this to be his last season as a player, however- we'll see as the season progresses. And yeah we should keep Thomas for now- I mean unless we can get an even better 3 point shooter for him it wouldn't make sense to trade him.

david
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Yeah good call JLemm- if Sam retires or leaves and Aaron is off the books, then there should be way more than enough to re-sign Maggette. I'm not so sure if Sam wants this to be his last season as a player, however- we'll see as the season progresses. And yeah we should keep Thomas for now- I mean unless we can get an even better 3 point shooter for him it wouldn't make sense to trade him.

JamFan
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I change my mind, the only guy I would want from the Heat is Dwade. So lets do that, if not "NO DEAL."

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