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Reports from the New York Daily News this morning suggest the Knicks covet Clipper's big man Marcus Camby, and may be involved in a three-way trade discussion with the Blazers and Clippers. Although Knicks president Donnie Walsh denied the rumor last night, despite multiple sources saying it was being discussed. For the Knicks end, they are rumored to be sending out Lee and possibly Quentin Richardson, and would return Camby and possibly Channing Frye. The Blazers would pick up David Lee, with the Clippers likely getting Richardson and or the ending contract of injured Raef LaFrentz. Insurance begins paying LaFrentz's....

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Wow we would probably be the worst team of the NBA if that happened. I'm not sure how Dunleavy would be able to sell Sterling on this one (if Dunleavy is indeed interested in this).

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Sounds like a garbage trade to me. This should not even be considered.

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Just read that Boston is interested in Marbury. Unable to post link (too new). Go to Yahoo Sports - NBA

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Why would we trade Camby who has 2 years on his contract, one of the best defensive centers in the league, for a scrub shooting guard Q who also has an 8 million dollar contract for 2 years? This would be the stupidest trade ever. While were at it, why don't we give them 5 first round picks for the next five years and throw in Eric Gordon?

Now, if we want to free up money, move Baron Davis or move are coach and keep him. Don't give are best player, Camby to free money up.

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Wow... that is ridiculous... Camby is playing great for us and we dont need salary cap space we arent the fakers... we need players who are healthy! I wouldnt mind pickip up D. Lee and Duhon though for a b. diddy trade of some sort, that i would be a fan of... also wouldnt mind bringing back Q. rich... loved him as a 6th man!

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that would be so stupid. he's the only good player besides gordon. not to mention we'd have 0 rebounds if camby was gone. everyone else seems to like ball watching.

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stephon marbury is a real team player!

he's mike tyson crazy.

both trades make no sense.

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We would have to get Bayless back in that deal. I'm still for moving Canby if the right deal comes up. He's our best player by far, but will be gone in 2 years. His value may be at a all time high. We can't afford to let him walk for nothing.

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Clippers: OUT - B. Davis, R. Davis, Camby, Hart, Skinner IN - Marbury and LaFrentz

THat would be the worst trade in Clipper history. By far.

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Why would you want Q-Rich back. He is horrible, just like maggette. These players just makes your team worse. Clippers have a run and gun offensive player with Bdiddy and e.gordon, and have a post player zac. Management needs to make up their freakin mind on which type of offense they want.

If we're getting rid of Camby, we should at least get Nate Robinson instead of Q-rich. Keep Bdiddy, he help sell tickets. Without Bdiddy or Camby, you have Zac as your franchise player. LOL

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Ramona on the Rumor:

Just came across a report out of New York linking the Clippers, once again, to trade talks with the Knicks. This time, it's Marcus Camby as the focus of the trade talks.

Wait, wasn't it Camby last time as the focus of trade talks?

In the negotiations with the Knicks in the run-up to the Zach Randolph trade, the Knicks repeatedly asked the Clippers for Camby, and the Clippers repeatedly refused. In fact, about a week before the deal was consummated, the talks were essentially put on hold due to New York's insistence on Camby being included in the deal.

The Clippers really, really like Camby. If anything, his value has increased this season along with the monster numbers he's been putting up. He's averaging 18.3 rebounds in his last eight games.

Still, it should be noted that in recent conversations I've had with team sources, the impression I had was that everyone involved is hoping the Clippers can use the second-half of this season to build for the future and lay a foundation.

Marcus is 34 and has one year remaining on his contract after this season. With as well as he's been playing, his professionalism, and his very reasonable salary, he has to be considered the club's most desirable trade chip.

At this point though, I'm not sure the club wants to part with him. He is a fantastic complement to Zach Randolph, who should be back from his bruised knee in a week or two.

I will do some more specific checking in the next few days to vet this latest rumor. My first reaction though, is that it's very unsurprising that other teams would value Marcus and want to acquire him.

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I was against the trade at first but I would gladly accept Zack as the face of the franchise now. There was no "swagger" to this team till he got here. Look at the Clips without Randolph now? Not saying, just saying...

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If anyone can go, I'd give up Kaman.

Camby- Randolph-Davis-Gordon- Thornton is a pretty good five IMO.

As far as depth, we can aquire more bench players that we desperately need.

Kaman seems to be taking too long to develop, is slow, clumsy, and isn't worth is salary.

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I actually found a slightly conflicting report:

http://realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/ ... _portland/

This one says we would get only Q-rich and there's no mention of getting Marbury.

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The Knicks obviously want Camby very badly. So much so, that they need to find a third team to help facilitate things. That's fine, so long as it actually gets us some young assets and picks to build around.

Thus far, Dunleavy has gotten Camby for a conditional second round pick, and Zach Randolph for Tim Thomas. Looks like our GM deals garbage for goods, not the other way around. Let the Knicks find another team that can give us something good, because Q-Rich for Marcus Camby will not cut it.

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The Marbury part sounds like daydreaming on top of an already questionable rumor.

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No point in giving up Chris. Camby is 34. He has one more year left on his contract. By then he'll be 35/36. His value is worth so much right now. We're not winning now. We don't even have an idea of who we want to be. Baron is a run and gun PG. Period. Zach and Chris are dominant post players. Period. This team has no direction. We might as well stick to being a dominant force down low. Get some solid young pieces for Camby, ship out Baron for a PG who looks to pass first and hopefully get a high pick in this years draft to get Rubio or someone.

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At this rate we could get the number 1 or 2 spot in the draft. That's kind of exciting.....lol

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That's a great point. I have mostly good things to say about Dunleavy's GM moves, but the only criticism i have is that he didn't do a good job forseeing how the talent might actually play together once they came in.

I also agree that Q-rich would be terrible. If i'm giving up Marcus Camby, i want Okafor in return. But that's just me.

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Haha. Too bad the draft class isn't that great this year.

But it could turn out to be a bitter-sweet season.

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if we're giving up someone like camby that plays hard every night gobbling up rebounds and swatting shots, we better get back something better than an overweight q rich with back problems and a bunch of role players. even draft picks aren't worth it since this year's class isn't so stellar as of yet, like lac said

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laclippers wrote:
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At this rate we could get the number 1 or 2 spot in the draft. That's kind of exciting.....lol

Haha. Too bad the draft class isn't that great this year.

But it could turn out to be a bitter-sweet season.

Yeah but the 1-3 spots should have good players...though we've had high picks before and look who we got out of them haha

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haha. but with out luck, we''ll finish with the 2nd worst record and get the 8th pick or something bizarre

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q rich didn't want to play here anyway. when the suns offered him, he did the same thing everyone else did - beg us not to match.

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With our luck, we'll have 1st pick but pass on everyone and go international again and pick some laidshhbislav khkhorbeankoenev guy

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f that pair up camby and Thornton and go for Michael Redd lol. I know daydreaming rocks and we'd have no real 3 but still. I hate Chauncy Billups, but tell me he wouldn't have been perfect for this team!

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nobody would be a perfect fit for our team because everyone that comes here starts sucking in the dun dun black hole offense of boredom. camby does great because there are no set plays for him. he just goes out and balls.

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Thats the stupidest trade in history!! Are you serious. I hope this is just a rumor and no talks like this will happen.

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Thanks god for these rumors giving us something to talk about. This board would be dead with out it.

The first report had the Blazers sending something like Bayless in a deal to the Knicks. In the deal if we were involved Bayless would have to come back are way. Camby has a ton of value right now. Richardson would have to most likely be in the deal for cap purposes.

Camby by far is the best player on our team. The thing is that we aren't going to win with him and we can't afford to let him walk for nothing. His value right now is at an all time high. He's putting up great numbers on a short contract. This is what teams want. There's no way he resigns with us. We need to take the best deal a run with it.

Marcus isn't part of the future.

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Couldn't agree with you more. I don't think any of us realized what this guy could do. He's been nothing but perfect for us but as hooch points out, he's not part of our future. We can get some solid pieces from a Camby trade. i don't want to see him go but we can't get too attached and watch him walk for nothing when we can get something in return now. But only if the right trade comes. Not like this BS trade proposal where we get s***ed on.

On a side note, why do we alway get the short end of the stick in these trade rumors. Like that writer coming up with Kaman and Eric for Vince Carter? I know we suck but we're not the little special ed kid sitting in the corner with a dumb grin on our face. No one in their right mind would make that trade....unless your the Nets.

F***ing ridiculous to think people like that get paid for such ideas. I don't even think you could pull off that trade in 2k or Live haha

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You guys get crappy players:

Marbury the poison, and LaFrentz. You get some BIG expiring contracts though.

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Agreed. Get us Bayless, and it's a done deal. A backcourt of Bayless/Gordon would be absolutely SICK!

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We would then have to 20 year old studs in the back court to build around. We'd struggle some, but damn we'd be fun to watch.

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All I have to say at this point is

WHY US?

The season was not suppose to be like this?

How is it that we less talent last year, but a bit more respective record?

This year we have a legitimate shooting guard, point guard, center, power and small foward a better bench and we are far worse?

The more we keep imploding a team, the more steps back we are taking with NOTHING to build on.

It's not the team that is in question, but more or less the franchise.

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We can have Kobe, Ray Allen, KG, and Pierce on our team and dunleavy will still botch it up somehow. haha How are we going to acquire a high caliber PG who had his career year last year to have his all time worst career % as a clipper?

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Its Dunleavy. The Clippers have a nice squad like you mentioned. Dunleavy just doesnt put the pieces together.

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So what is it going to take for fans to start going to a game and call for his head

or fans to write or call the offices and express their displeasure??

I get pissed about this all the time, and CLIPPER fans are like.........

give it time, be patient, give him a chance, they need time to gel......

So now what fellow Clipper fans?

The team is reverting back to true form, or the only form they know, and we are once again going to a roster with no names, and projects.

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If Portland offered us Lamarcus Aldridge for Camby I'd pull the trigger in a heartbeat but they aren't going to. Yea Getting Q Rich for Camby would be a terrible trade for us.

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when i was younger Q was my favorite player.

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This trade not only doesn't get us enough pieces for camby. It is horrible beyond recognition and Q being here is too risky with Z-Bo. Z-Bo put NY behind him why in the F*CK would you bring anyone in from that franchise here to be a distraction to Z-BO.

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When u were younger, Q was a lot more respectable

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ReliveThe3PEAT wrote:
Clipper-Josh wrote:
All I have to say at this point is

WHY US?

The season was not suppose to be like this?

How is it that we less talent last year, but a bit more respective record?

This year we have a legitimate shooting guard, point guard, center, power and small foward a better bench and we are far worse?

The more we keep imploding a team, the more steps back we are taking with NOTHING to build on.

It's not the team that is in question, but more or less the franchise.

Its Dunleavy. The Clippers have a nice squad like you mentioned. Dunleavy just doesnt put the pieces together.

No, Dont say Dunleavy doesnt put the pieces together. Say He's the last piece that doesnt finish the puzzle. We need a coach that finishes the puzzle or aka The Los Angeles Clippers.

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I'd p*ss on this trade. not only does this trade mess us up do you guys realize how much better the Blazers would be with David MF'in Lee. I know

The Suns and Mavs are the right now road blocks to the playoffs but the Blazers are going to be the long term guys we have to battle with for a more comfortable seeding.

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I'm with you. I was considering getting a group of Clipper fans together to purchase some ad space in the L.A. Times for an open letter to Sterling asking for Dunleavy to be fired. Obviously, he can't be blamed for all the injuries, but I somehow feel that bad luck is following the team because the team culture just isn't right. Time for some new blood and a new system.

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Hopefully Dunleavy isnt this stupied! He is an idiot if he trades either Baron or Marcus, but he should be fired as GM if he trades them both. This is bullshit that we are even in the talks of this

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I commented on one of Ramona's blurbs and she responded with this:

"Unless everyone I spoke with today is lying to me, Camby is NOT, I repeat NOT being traded.

This move was just made because the Clippers needed a roster spot back with all their injuries, and didn't want to guarantee Davis for the rest of the year.

They also still value DeAndre very highly and I'm told this acquisition will not cost DeAndre opportunities."

So I guess all this trade talk is all for not......man it sure makes for some fun entertainment here on the site haha.

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elton_sucks42 wrote:
rikdaddy wrote:
nobody would be a perfect fit for our team because everyone that comes here starts sucking in the dun dun black hole offense of boredom. camby does great because there are no set plays for him. he just goes out and balls.

We can have Kobe, Ray Allen, KG, and Pierce on our team and dunleavy will still botch it up somehow. haha How are we going to acquire a high caliber PG who had his career year last year to have his all time worst career % as a clipper?

By that logic, Eric Gordon's 31 points yesterday never happened. Neither did Thornton's big scoring games last year. Also, Most Improved Player Bobby Simmons never existed. He was just a figment of our imagination. And Corey "Way to get your numbers" Maggette had his best statistics year under Dunleavy's system? That was one big mirage. Quentin's career best numbers under this horrible system? Nothing more than out imagination. Sam Cassell, Cuttino Mobley, all those midrange jumpers were an elaborate ruse set up by the nefarious Dunleavy. But Baron being the league's most efficient scorer before coming here, that is totally true. Damn this impossible system where no player has ever been able to make a bucket.

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^^^ not sure that Cat and TT trade came out of nowhere too. But overall Ramona hasn't let us down so I'll run with her for now.

if this means dJ is going to get a larger push in mintues I'm all for it why not. Wish Mike taylor was healthy but we still haven't got to the half way marker on the season yet so I guess he has time.

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journeyman wrote:
elton_sucks42 wrote:
rikdaddy wrote:
nobody would be a perfect fit for our team because everyone that comes here starts sucking in the dun dun black hole offense of boredom. camby does great because there are no set plays for him. he just goes out and balls.

We can have Kobe, Ray Allen, KG, and Pierce on our team and dunleavy will still botch it up somehow. haha How are we going to acquire a high caliber PG who had his career year last year to have his all time worst career % as a clipper?

By that logic, Eric Gordon's 31 points yesterday never happened. Neither did Thornton's big scoring games last year. Also, Most Improved Player Bobby Simmons never existed. He was just a figment of our imagination. And Corey "Way to get your numbers" Maggette had his best statistics year under Dunleavy's system? That was one big mirage. Quentin's career best numbers under this horrible system? Nothing more than out imagination. Sam Cassell, Cuttino Mobley, all those midrange jumpers were an elaborate ruse set up by the nefarious Dunleavy. But Baron being the league's most efficient scorer before coming here, that is totally true. Damn this impossible system where no player has ever been able to make a bucket.

yet so many years and 1 post season run that is one hell of a system. Pop and Phil should take notes. lol

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