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journeyman
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Icecoldclipper wrote:
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nobody would be a perfect fit for our team because everyone that comes here starts sucking in the dun dun black hole offense of boredom. camby does great because there are no set plays for him. he just goes out and balls.

We can have Kobe, Ray Allen, KG, and Pierce on our team and dunleavy will still botch it up somehow. haha How are we going to acquire a high caliber PG who had his career year last year to have his all time worst career % as a clipper?

By that logic, Eric Gordon's 31 points yesterday never happened. Neither did Thornton's big scoring games last year. Also, Most Improved Player Bobby Simmons never existed. He was just a figment of our imagination. And Corey "Way to get your numbers" Maggette had his best statistics year under Dunleavy's system? That was one big mirage. Quentin's career best numbers under this horrible system? Nothing more than out imagination. Sam Cassell, Cuttino Mobley, all those midrange jumpers were an elaborate ruse set up by the nefarious Dunleavy. But Baron being the league's most efficient scorer before coming here, that is totally true. Damn this impossible system where no player has ever been able to make a bucket.

yet so many years and 1 post season run that is one hell of a system. Pop and Phil should take notes. lol

Yes, and you left out Doc "Fire Doc Rivers" Rivers, the guy everyone in Boston was looking to sacrifice before KG and Allen. Funny how games are easier to win when you got some healthy talent on the floor instead of on the injured list. BTW, missed the point entirely: The players will hit their shots or they won't, regardless of who is telling them to move where. Unless you think Doc carried the team and not the other way around.

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They bought Doc's system in defense which is strangely the same as Md's. Now either it's the Coaches fault for executing a system poorly or it's the GM's fault for bringing in players who can't play in his system.

Doc may not be the perfect coach but they play hard for him each and every night and they respect him. Can you honestly state these players hold MD in the same regards?

Everyone here wanted to sacrifice MD too and guess what like Doc Rivers MD was given talented players want to know the difference? Docs team got Better.... MD's team got Worse. lol

Come on injuries at this point Bostons's bench looks about one level above ours and we have average to below average talent. That team rides on the starting line-up and everyone else hustles under the system of the coach and Co-Captain Garnett.

We've had injuries no doubt about it but when one by one the players quit on the team we have a problem that goes beyond injuries.

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They didn't look like they quit against the Pistons or the Suns. I guess with no Baron around, the team functions like a team. Go figure.

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like it or not, injuries are reason #1 the team is in this situation. the only semi healthy roster we had all year began to show signs of life(6-6 with z-bo). and that was with no kaman, and i cant remember if taylor was playing or not. call it what you want, but thats the reality. so we can blame coach, the trainers, the players, the owner, take your pick... i still want to see what a team that starts a healthy bdavis-gordon-thornton-z-bo-camby, with kaman -taylor-dj- and maybe a fred jones off the bench can do. i doubt many of you have the patience for that though. which is understandable....

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Dunleavy's record up to this point is 31-84. This includes all of last season. Enough said. If this is the perfect system, then this team is in even more trouble since we are stuck with him for another 2 seasons. Only the Clippers would keep Dunleavy after posting that horrendous record.

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...and what has happened in those 84 games? Tell me just one team that has gone through more than the Clippers in those 84 games...just one team

! Please tell me.

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Dunleavy's record up to this point is 31-84. This includes all of last season. Enough said. If this is the perfect system, then this team is in even more trouble since we are stuck with him for another 2 seasons. Only the Clippers would keep Dunleavy after posting that horrendous record.

...and what has happened in those 84 games? Tell me just one team that has gone through more than the Clippers in those 84 games...just one team

! Please tell me.

At the end of the day, winning is all that matters. I'm tired of the excuses. Whether it's injuries, chemistry, or both. It seems that the Dunleavy supporters want to blame Baron for our problems this year. Well guess what, Baron wasn't with our team last season and we still had a horrendous record. The injury excuse will only get you so far. This is the NBA, and the players are professional athletes that go out there and perform. If the coach can't motivate the players on his team, then something is seriously wrong. Players need to buy into a coach's system, and the coach needs to adjust his style to utilize the team's strengths. This has always been Dunleavy's problem. Dunleavy thinks that his way is the best, when it obviously isn't showing with our record the last couple of seasons up until this point. Until Dunleavy figures out how to utilize this team, we'll never go anywhere.

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last year no brand-livingston and plenty of missed games from kaman(3 starters). this year you know the deal. you call em excuses, i call em the sad and unfortunate facts

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You wanna play facts? Dunleavy's record with the Clippers up until this point, 183-260. I ain't a math genius, but by my calculations, that doesn't equal a winning percentage. If you think that's a winning formula, than be my guest. That is reality the way I see it.

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im not trying to "play facts" with you. i just want to point out that for these last 2 disasterous seasons, weve been without our best players playing for the heavy majority of the time, and i think that is the single biggest reason for our horrible record over that span. even three years ago we played .500 ball and more than likely wouldve made the playoffs if cassell played. but again an injury to one of our best players, and we had hart for our end of the year playoff push and missed. you take away any teams BEST players for an extended period of time and the record is gonna suffer.

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ditto. right off my tongue.

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Actually fans WERE chanting "Fire Dunleavy" the last couple of home games (excluding the Detroit game when we were screaming our lungs out for good reasons)!

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I would like to know what the hell is Dun thinking? We already got Collins and Zbo. Now he wants to bring in more Knick players??? WTF is that all about? Getting Zbo seems to have been a great deal but the players the Knicks want to dump on us is just crap. We will get blown out by 40 every night if that trade goes through. If Dun pulls it off the way its described then we all should throw crap at him like monkeys at the zoo!!!

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its a rumor that most likely started in NY. (not dunleavy)

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I think the Wizards are more injury prone than we are. Last season we wouldn't of made it to the playoffs even if we were in the Eastern conference.

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seriously, was samb picked up because camby's leaving? (depth at center)

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"An absurd trade rumor hit the Knick locker room Sunday. It said the Knicks, Clippers and Blazers were involved in a three-team, 12-player trade that would be consummated next week. A newspaper referred to it as a "report," but it actually was a posted comment on a Knick blog by a person claiming to have ties with the Clippers.

The deal had the Knicks getting Marcus Camby, Channing Frye, rookie DeAndre Jordan, Jerryd Bayless and Jason Hart. The Knicks would give up Quentin Richardson, Lee, Anthony Roberson and Malik Rose."

What a BS trade rumor. Again some punk making up a trade rumor that clearly favors the team he supports.

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Yea i saw that this morning too. What the hell, the knicks get a great package leaving the clips with nothing ha don't make me laugh. We also give up DeAndre(stupid writers). Article is almost as bad as that russian igor crap about the u.s. How does this crap get any attention.

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its funny that every trade rumor so far has clearly favored the knicks. (which makes me question their credibility)

and if they happen to be correct, id like to speak to david stern. he's be clearly trying to ressurect the big market franchises. first the kg/ray allen deals to boston and pau to the lakers for kwame...and now...

dont be surprised if we do something foolish. its fascism.

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I dont really buy into conspiracies usually, but i think you're right. They're trying to resurrect the big basketball cities...

Once NY is big, they're going to Chicago

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