This is ridiculous. Frankly, Dunleavy should've at least learned something from the disaster that was signing BD. Trying to sign out of date superstars will never work, BD refuses to conform to our game style, and MC is not what he once was. TMac would be even worse because he falls into this category, AND he's out for the rest of the season, possibly longer. Plus he comes with a ridiculous wage consdiering he won't be able to walk.

As far as I'm concerned, excluding ZR who has turned out good for us even if he can't control his temper, our best and most solid, reliable players our AT, EG and veterans like MC and SN who is going big from three and along with EG gives us some outside presence.

All these players have a high work rate and want to gel together as MDs team, not BDs. We need to remove him and look for a hard working, pass first shoot last guard, either a veteran or a talented fresh face. I don't have many suggestions for this but I know this is the kind of guard we need to look for.

I agree elton sucks 42. there actually are some changes that can be made that will turn baron's game around. The problem is, most of these changes wont happen during this season, which means baron might not get any better this year.

I still have a really hard time believing baron is healthy too. when i thought of baron davis before we signed the guy, my favorite image of him was that monster dunk on kirilinko in the playoffs 2 years ago. has baron even had 1 dunk this year? i can remember a crappy dunk that he barely put down, but thats about it.

I think a lot said here is right and a good opinion, but the main thing I disagree with is some people saying that in time Baron will pick up and get used to our team.

[Kobe]would been a leader even if he were dying and still kicked names and taked a**.

Kind of an old topic, but now that apparently Ron Artest is going to the Lakers, Rockets have to be desperate. I wonder if they would consider Kaman and Baron for T-Mac. I know T-Mac is old and Kaman/Baron have some loyalty on this forum, but seriously guys, next year if we had 43 MILLION in cap space, we could sign 2 all-stars and then we could really start talking about championships for this franchise. If we had Gordon, Thornton, DeAndre and Griffin to work with, it's not all that far fetched for the LeBron's or the Wade's out there to want to play for the Clips.

I thought Artest was going to the Cavs they were saying Lebron took him to Dinner yesterday I think he'll end up there first. Ariza will stay in LA.

If we are going to trade with Houston, what about Baron for Rafer Alston and Shane Battier?
It works. We get a PG and a classy SF and get rid of a player that doesn't fit in MDSR's system.

PS I wanted to post the trade machine link but was denied.

Not sure about that, toohip.

If I recall correctly, Kobe's first few years as alpha dog was a disaster. Rudy T gave the team free reign and they found out that Kobe couldn't singlehandedly outscore teams nightly. He ended up going down with a severe ankle sprain and the Lakers finished behind the Clippers (though they were both out of the playoffs).

The next year, with Jackson back at the helm (not to mention Fisher), they made it back to the playoffs but were blown out in game 7 against the Suns, once again finishing behind the Clippers. How did their fearless leader react?

By demanding a trade, threatening he'd rather play on Pluto than come back to his team. He then calls out GM Kupcheck for not trading Bynum for Jason Kidd.

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I'm not trying to defend Baron for quitting on the team last year. It was a frustrating thing to witness. But I just can't bring myself to believe that Kobe is really that much better when the chips are down.

Baron was ass last year. He has vowed that things will improve this year. I'm willing to let him prove it.

Correction, fish was not on those teams you are referring to. And I have to agree with toohip, even with a terrible cast comparable to our team 19-win team last year, Kobe never let his team below 34 wins. But let's give Baron some slack, forgive and forget, and look forward to next year. We're on the rise, so like Blake let's forget about the past.

Giving away too much for the hopes of signing guys... what if they didnt sign with us? We suck, thats what happens. That would also give Houston a decent squad and we would now have no Big anymore except Deandre who cant be counted on quite yet...

would be like the early 2000 clippers, fun to watch but not enough wins.