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I'm assuming it would be Big Ben(expiring) for Zach. Thoughts?

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Rasheed to the Cavs?

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My sources say that Rasheed Wallace and the Cavs are beginning talks on a two-year deal worth about $10 million per for the services of the former Piston. The move and negotiations were inspired by Dwight Howard’s dominant performance over Cleveland’s big men in the Eastern Conference Finals. And Wallace will be brought in for that very purpose, to neutralize Dwight Howard next season and help the Cavs get over the hump.

This supports what we previously reported about what it will take for Sheed to come back next year.

If this signing falls through, I’m hearing that Cleveland may do a sign and trade with the Clippers for Zach Randolph, which certainly makes sense for the Clippers since they are taking Blake Griffin No. 1 overall.

http://www.slamonline.com/online/nba/20 ... -the-cavs/

I'm assuming it would be Big Ben(expiring) for Zach. Thoughts?

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That makes sense. There's been rumors going around that Big Ben is contemplating on retiring this summer though, so we'll see how it works out. Too bad he lost it after his detroid days. Defensive player of the year for 4 years!

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i dont like it only because i think we can actually pick up talent for Z-boner and shouldnt trade him for cap relief. If he goes to the cavs he could be the final piece for their championship roster. He would be the first legit producer they would team Lebron with.

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Don't like it either! Ben is a shell of himself and not only will we lose a 20/10 scorer, we will gain another big man with limited talent on offense. If we are rebuilding, do the trade. If you want to wallow in another dismal season, do it. If you want to have a chance to compete next season, DO NOT DO IT!

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Yeah I agree. We can get much more value than this for Z-Bo if we actually end up trading him. I personally feel like we should trade Z-BO or Kaman for a decent package on draft night that comes with another pick in this draft or just keep all of our big men and let the play and chemistry on court decide who the odd man out is, and then make a move at the trade deadline.

But yeah, Walllace isnt worth anything at this point, and there is nothing outside of LeBron that comes with Wallace that is worth trading for on that team.

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totally.

a zbo trade deserves reputable players, not cap relief. (isnt it crazy that randolph makes more money than lebron?)

although that would open us up to $26K+ to spend in 2010.

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Well, maybe moving Z-bo for contracts ending in 2010 is the thing to do- but only if it is a deal that doesnt hurt us too much in the short term. Seriously though, if the clippers offer a huge contract to a star and tell them they would be a nice fit with baron, gordon, griffin and kaman in this wonderful LA market- dont you think someone big has to bite on that offer?

While I could go either way on this one- keeping Z-bo until we can get good value for him might be the safer but, I could certainly be okay taking my chances with the 2010 Free Agent class with a pretty nice looking offer above.

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While I would love to get talent for Z-bo, I don't think it's likely given his salary. Portland got nothing for him; Channing Frye and Steve Francis, who they simply paid off. Of course we know what we gave up for him. The Knicks could have rescinded the trade when Mobley's heart ailment was found. They didn't, meaning they were also happy to just have him gone in exchange for cap space. To think we could do better, is unlikely... But hey, I would love to trade him to Chicago for Hinrich and a bad contract (probably Tim Thomas)...

I don't think Wallace would actually ever come here. He'd just be bought out so that we would have cap space to add another player next year, since Zach will largely be superfluous as Griffin is going to get huge minutes.

Also, as Z-bo's minutes go down, his value will go down as well, making him even harder to move (if possible)... If we can get out of his contract, we should do it asap... Drafting Griffin made Zach more than expendable.

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totally.

a zbo trade deserves reputable players, not cap relief. (isnt it crazy that randolph makes more money than lebron?)

although that would open us up to $26K+ to spend in 2010.

Well, maybe moving Z-bo for contracts ending in 2010 is the thing to do- but only if it is a deal that doesnt hurt us too much in the short term. Seriously though, if the clippers offer a huge contract to a star and tell them they would be a nice fit with baron, gordon, griffin and kaman in this wonderful LA market- dont you think someone big has to bite on that offer?

While I could go either way on this one- keeping Z-bo until we can get good value for him might be the safer but, I could certainly be okay taking my chances with the 2010 Free Agent class with a pretty nice looking offer above.

Man, that 26M in cap space looks pretty enticing. Realistically, who would wanna come to the Clippers? But then again, money(and location) talks and 26M and the city of Los Angeles are two good reasons to jump onboard.

That said, I've seen better, safer offers(like Richard Jefferson, Tayshaun Prince or Kirk Hinrich). Either way, I won't be upset because it ultimately frees up minutes for Griffin, which is the #1 goal at hand.

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Ben Wallace is garbage...I think we can get something better for him. I think Zach fits really well in the Cavs since he would be the second offensive option after LJ and could give them some punch inside. Varejao and Z are nice but they need a killer inside and Zach is a proven scorer from the low post. Zach is perfect for them.

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He isnt perfect for them. They are not really looking for a offensive big man on the halfcourt, more like a big guy that can stop the likes of Howard and Garnett. Any offense would be a plus, but on a half court set Zach is not the type of player Cleavland would be looking for. Someone like Z helps a bit because he can shoot and will spread the floor, for King James, but Zbo wont. He cant handle Garnett and Howard, and he wouldnt mix with their offense.

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Good points. We tend to overvalue our own players and it's no different in this case. We might have to end up settling for expiring contracts and draft picks in exchange. Although Hinrich/Thomas would be great, especially since Thomas is expiring as well, I don't how much Chicago is interested in Z-Bo. I'm gonna be on pins and needles on draft day anticipating a trade(hopefully in our favor).

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do this trade and then we can get chris bosh in free agency next year to make up for ben wallace and cambys expiring contracts. he can play the 4 and 5 spots with a nice shot and a whole lot of athleticism and post game. he said he isnt going to get a contract extension with toronto, and he obvioiusly wants out. why wouldnt he want to come to la's huge media market and young talent, so he can get the buzz he deserves.

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AGREED 100%

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do this trade and then we can get chris bosh in free agency next year to make up for ben wallace and cambys expiring contracts. he can play the 4 and 5 spots with a nice shot and a whole lot of athleticism and post game. he said he isnt going to get a contract extension with toronto, and he obvioiusly wants out. why wouldnt he want to come to la's huge media market and young talent, so he can get the buzz he deserves.

AGREED 100%

See Chris would be a nice pick up. But then were cloggin up the 4 again and preventing Blake from getting his minutes. Given Bosh is a great pick up and a great player, he plays both 4-5 so we could move him back and forth. Keep the lineup fresh. But then we'd be preventing development from DeAndre the Giant a.k.a DJ. So were still clogged at the 4 spot. I would suggest maybe searching for a good 3 man. Thats where i see we have the biggest gap/hole. We have alot of guards, and alot of bigs, but not enough SF except for Novak and Thorton. Novak i like but not much left after his jumpshot. He cant create a shot for himself. Is not a good run off screen catch and shoot type of a player. Al is great. So we definatley need someone to be effective off the bench or find a very good perimeter defender that can start. That way we can Al come off the and be that 6th man spark.

But just the opportunity of having a player with Bosh's skill set is a good one. He is versitile. Has post game. Can pass out the post and really starting to develop his jumper. I know a few times last year, he dropped a few behind the arc. But if we were going to keep Zach here anyways, I dont see why he wouldnt fit.

Im sorta back and forth on this one guys.

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So if Wallace decides to retire after this trade instead of play here does his salary come off the books?

This would be great for our cap in 2010. I could see Bosh, and or Durant headed here with the 26mil. The downside to this trade is it could make us miss the playoffs next year again. Trading Zach for Hinrich and Tim Thomas would be more of an insurance policy if Baron flops again. Also Hinrich could play 1-3 depending on our lineup.

The big question is Hinrich and Thomas to win more next season or Wallace to gamble on 2010 free agency? I do believe with our core we can land a quality free agent in 2010.

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Im not for waiting and gambling on what the youth COULD be. Bosh is a proven All Star. LeBron James? Proven SUPER STAR. Dwayne Wade? proven superstar.

DeAndre is my favorite player on the Clips, but he can develop in practices and games way better competing alongside Bosh, than just running drills with Rory White. Id let Gordon go for the likes of LBJ or Wade. Id give up the number 1 pick for proven successful WINNERS.

Considering the cheap organization we have, none of this will happen - but I will voice my opinion. Gordon, Griffin and Jordan may be the future building blocks of a championship team - but until that day comes the Lakers would have hosted a few more parades in LA and we will continually be dismissed as a JOKE.

How much respect would we gain with some winners on our team? God forbid a few wins and a post season appearance. Oh no! we like to keep things interesting and keep people guessing on high hopes of what could be - all on a tight budget.

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Besides we could move Bosh to the 5 and Griffin will stay at 4. Or we trade #1 pick, put Bosh where he's comfortable and then try to haggle that 3 spot you seem to say we are weak in.

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I highly doubt we would get D Wade or Lebron. I thought D Wade has basically said he wants to stay in Miami. I could see Bosh being our 5. Bosh would also make Kaman expendable. Ideally if we got rid of Zack this offseason for Bosh's salary and then did a sign and trade shipping off Kaman and another piece for Durant. If Zack can help Lebron win a championship for the Cavs and give us the space to ink Bosh it sounds like a good deal.

The only way I could see getting Wade or Lebron would be the whole Gordon, Thorton, Griffin, Camby package. We would be stupid to do this if Lebron or Wade would ink at least a two year contract extension. There is no need to shed our young talent for a loan of an elite player for one season.

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With the acquisition of Bosh, LeBron and Wade become more realistic. So if a chance opens up I say we take it. Even though it will be a very slim chance with our cheap organization. Superstars like to WIN, period. If we have a potentially winning team, there is more of a chance to bring in more winners - in order to... WIN.

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Another great player that DeAndre and Blake can learn better D and rebounding skills from etc. Plus with all that free money we could go after a bunch of mid level guys. We dont need KObe, Lebron or D Wade here, I think many neglect all the free agents that are going to be available in the next couple of years that can make a bigger difference for us than say 1 guy.

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midlevel guys gets us midlevel success... sign 2 big names and youll be surprised how people will be drawn to come and play for a title contending team (some even better than midlevel).

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They just discussed on PTI which would be a better fit in Cleveland, Rasheed or Zach? Kornheiser thought Rasheed, because of Zach's attitude. Wilbon went with Zach because he can get you 20 and 10 every night and everyone knows it's LeBron's team.

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Randolph for Wallace is a steal for the clippers. The clippers get rid of Randolph's contract and Randolph. If Wallace retires that is even better. This is the best deal the clippers can get for Randolph.

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To me it depends on whether or not Ben is retiring right now, or if he wants that extra 15 million or so. I don't know how anyone in the world could turn down that kind of money, but I have read elsewhere that that is the case.

Zach to the Cavs makes a lot of sense. Their low post scoring is non-existent, WAY too much pressure is on LeBron to facilitate everything. Though we are trying to get rid of Zach, he is a terrific 4 on the offensive end, incredibly gifted.

I just don't want to wait until 2010. Our roster is pretty much centered around Baron and he's not getting any younger, we need talent right here, right now if we're gonna do some real damage.

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get rid of randolph. keep kaman and camby. camby's contract ends next year. so will ben wallace's so we will have a whole lot of cap space and a great young core of guys. we are in los angeles, one of the greatest cities in the world. free agents will be lining up to come here for the weather, the ladies, and blow up in the media. there are a ton of guys we could get and we arent restricted to just one guy with all the cap space we could clear up. guys like joe johnson, lebron, josh howard, dirk, t-mac, richard jefferson, michael redd, tyson chandler, steve nash, shaq, amare, travis outlaw, ginobili, roger mason, and cris bosh are all available and we could potentially bring in 1 or 2 or 3 or maybe 4 of these great players and start our dynasty in la. the one thing holding us back is zack randolph and his huge contract. this is why we need to trade him for ben wallace.

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Great post and well said... I don't think they'll be lining up, however... Still, with a lot of guys out there, many will not find the market as lucrative as they'd hoped. If we have money, and if we're smart, we could find a bargain as some players panic as they try to find a home... If it's possible to get rid of Randolph, we must and we can't be particular about who we get in exchange... Remember, freeing up that salary slot can be every bit as valuable as if we'd gotten Josh Howard for him.

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100% agree. I'm going to assume that many of us want Zach gone mainly because of Zach's defensive deficiencies and probable unhappiness coming off of the bench. In getting Big Ben we get a solid defender who doesnt need the ball at all, sets picks, doesn't mind coming off the bench, and is cap friendly for 2010. I love Big Ben and even if he were to retire right after, we shed cap space now. A lot of people have been saying how hard it would be to move Zach's contract but now this deal isn't enough? I think that's just being too picky. I love this deal whether or not Wallace comes.

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ben and delonte or ben and wallace 4 Z-bo

Delonte could back up EG that would be sick

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I really hope Ben is not our only option for Zbo. If it is, then I say bring the 21 million dollar man off the bench. Leave Ben where he is.

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SamMays wrote:
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get rid of randolph. keep kaman and camby. camby's contract ends next year. so will ben wallace's so we will have a whole lot of cap space and a great young core of guys. we are in los angeles, one of the greatest cities in the world. free agents will be lining up to come here for the weather, the ladies, and blow up in the media. there are a ton of guys we could get and we arent restricted to just one guy with all the cap space we could clear up. guys like joe johnson, lebron, josh howard, dirk, t-mac, richard jefferson, michael redd, tyson chandler, steve nash, shaq, amare, travis outlaw, ginobili, roger mason, and cris bosh are all available and we could potentially bring in 1 or 2 or 3 or maybe 4 of these great players and start our dynasty in la. the one thing holding us back is zack randolph and his huge contract. this is why we need to trade him for ben wallace.

Great post and well said... I don't think they'll be lining up, however... Still, with a lot of guys out there, many will not find the market as lucrative as they'd hoped. If we have money, and if we're smart, we could find a bargain as some players panic as they try to find a home... If it's possible to get rid of Randolph, we must and we can't be particular about who we get in exchange... Remember, freeing up that salary slot can be every bit as valuable as if we'd gotten Josh Howard for him.

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100% agree. I'm going to assume that many of us want Zach gone mainly because of Zach's defensive deficiencies and probable unhappiness coming off of the bench. In getting Big Ben we get a solid defender who doesnt need the ball at all, sets picks, doesn't mind coming off the bench, and is cap friendly for 2010. I love Big Ben and even if he were to retire right after, we shed cap space now. A lot of people have been saying how hard it would be to move Zach's contract but now this deal isn't enough? I think that's just being too picky. I love this deal whether or not Wallace comes.

These are perfect points in trading Zach. Like most of you, I like Zach. He's matured over the years. Is a hard worker (ont he offensive end) and is no doubt a solid 20/10 guy. The Cavs lack offensive power from the inside and Zach provides that. Plus Zach will be able to spread the floor for LBJ and also can hit the outside jumper.

If we get Ben, that will be a BENEFIT for us wether now or in 2010. If he does retire now, were capable of bringing in someone thorugh FA signing.

Also, another big Plus is that if Wallace does decide to come and play for 1 more year, his contract comes off the books at the same time as Camby. So we'll have alot of cap space to play around.

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If Wallace agrees to retire, then I say we make this deal.

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How would this be a steal for the Clippers? We would give up Zach for a player that has sat on the bench the last two years because Varejao is better than he is. We would have to get more than Wallace. This would be a steal for the Cavs they would probably win next year if this went through. If we trade Zach we should get equal or better value for him not just here take my player I need money off the books. The Cavs would be better suited with Camby or Kaman anyway with a slow and aging Z, Varejao does his job he just can't score Z can score it just looks like slow motion in real time. I wouldn't even deal with the Cavs I would make a deal with a team that has a player that can play the 2 or 3 position thats what we need.

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freeing up Zach's salary would be a gift for us...we could sign a better player with that money at other position(s). This is good for us only in that we are willing to spend the money on better value, rather than just shedding salary, and the team being out a good player in Zach.

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Bert... Problem is, you're not going to get a quality player for Zach... His salary pays him more than he's considered by most in the league to be worth. To move him, you have to take another team's problem, or you have to move him just for salary cap relief... And don't look at cap relief like it's giving away a player for nothing... That cap room can be used to bring in another player that you wouldn't otherwise be able to afford... That's why the Blazers and the Knicks essentially got rid of Zach for cap relief. To think we can do better is mistaken. Nobody wants Zach at his salary level. We will have to twist arms to get someone to take him... Nobody is lining up to get in the Zach Randolph sweepstakes even though everyone in the league knows we need to move him.

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Wallace for Randolph is a steal for the clippers because Wallace and Camby's contract expire at the same time. Who cares if the Cavs win what is more important is the future of the Clippers and all the cap room. And besides do you believe that "Zach Randolph" will help any team win a championship, he can't even help a team make the playoffs. Even if Wallace does not retire he is known as a good locker room guy and could help mentor the rookie.

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It's still a bad move IMO. Zach wasn't that hard to move when he went from portland to NY and now here. I just don't want Big Ben he has very limited game and if he retired we would have to find a player that wants to come here. Yeah we're in LA people want to come to LA but not to play with the Clippers or for Dunleavy if it's not the organization. Forget 2010. We have to do like a strawberry and use what we got to get what we want. We've got Kaman and teams want him and are willing to give up good players for him he hasn't really been that much of an asset, Camby doeesn't score his buckets like a traditional center but he does score. what would you rather have Camby shooting an 15 footer or Kaman twisting and turning under the rim for a lay up. I say Camby, Kaman misses more layups than Odom when he can just throw it down and he's been doing it since he was drafted. At least we know DJ will throw it down. And no I don't think Zach could help any team get a ring but in Cle he probably would. If Boozer wouldn't have left they would already have one. Camby would be the best mentor too. Wallace just hustles because that's all he knows, his brothers never passed him the ball so he only learned Defense and he's not nearly the defensive player he was. So we'll eventually end up paying him to sit the bench. Not smart.

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After seeing Blake say he wants to play Sf I'm really against this trade.

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blake's outside game isnt good enough for him to be an efficient SF

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Whether or not Blake desires to play SF we still need to get rid of Randolph. The Clippers would be better in the long run if we can salary dump Zack. If Zack can help Lebron out I'm cool with that also, especially if they end up denying the Lakers a championship.

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I agree, it would need work. Still, Corey was a terrible perimeter shooter in my opinion and he was a fine SF, just slashing and going to the rim. I bet if Blake and Corey chucked up a bunch of 3's, both would make about three of 'em just based on luck

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I happened to come across another rumor, from an Ohio newspaper that the Cavs don't want Zach, but are actually more interested in either Camby or Kaman? What could they possibly offer us for either of those two? I found this quite comical, as their rumor didn't list whom they might actually offer. Comical because we know they don't want to offer Mo Williams or Lebron, but somehow think they could pry away Camby or Kaman.

Only reason we might entertain an offer for Zach is for salary dump purposes, contingent on signing other talent..I'd hate to dump Zach and not bring in anyone either via trade or FA signing.

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I don't see anyone offering us anything of value for Zach... He has a questionable attitude in the league, gets suspended regularly, doesn't defend and his numbers, so far, haven't translated into wins. Add his salary into the mix and why would anyone want to throw away their chance to land a big free agent to take on a big salary they'll be stuck with for two years. Teams know they would be much better off keeping their salary cap money than bringing in Zach.

The only way Zach gets moved is by a team that also has someone they don't want to pay in the hopes that Zach actually does add more than he takes away... Cleveland dumping Ben Wallace onto us is one of the few that might work...

I'd be amazed if Zach isn't here for at least another year, but then again, there's a sucker born every minute... Where are you Isiah? Dunleavy?

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guys, i actually kinda wanna keep zbo.... the guy is tough... lol after watching this vid i regained my love(no homo) for zach.

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Ben Wallace is such a shell of his former self. It's hard to say who is better. Zach Randolph can really light up the stat sheet in a losing effort, but Big Ben will just waste space out there on the court. Not the defensive presence he used to be. Imagine having Camby and Wallace on the same team 3 years ago though.

It doesn't matter because the Clippers will be entering the Blake Griffin era very soon. He will be one of the top 10 players in the NBA in a few years.

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I still say no. All that dump salary talk is just for teams looking to land Lebron or D Wade. Were not even in discussion to land a superstar via FA 2010. We need to worry about making the Clipps better, NY dumped Zach on us but Lebron wasn't going there anyway he was going to the NETS when they move to Brooklyn and Wade wants to stay in Miami I doubt he'll stay though. Dunleavy wanted Zach, he got Zach. Kaman would be better for Cle. But I wouldn't trade Kaman to Cle. unless they give up a guard or trade to another team that will give up a 3. Every team can't dump salary for 2010 it's not enough suckers out there.

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i dont no why so many people are hatin on zbo. this guy is a beast. yea he cant play defense but its all good his offense makes up for it and those offensive rebounds he gets. dont you guys understand he is 20 and 10 thats so rare. if this guy is willing to come off the bench then i give him mad props

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I think he's great too, but it just wouldn't work. Griffin needs to be a starter, and at the moment, Zach is a better player than Griffin, it doesn't make sense to have a guy making 15 mil. a year coming off the bench when he is the superior player.

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Most people aren't hatin on Z-Bo, it's merely addition by subtraction. We were extremely fortunate to win the lottery and now comes the part where we have to utilize it accordingly, which in this case means alleviating a redundant part in the front court. That's all it is.

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