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So Elton bails to the Sixers and his career falls apart, so now he is on the trading block. The Sixers are shopping him to EVERY team in the league and want to move him. JUSTICE, SWEET JUSTICE. I rarely wish ill will on athletes but it does feel good that he totally disses us.. and goes on to become nothing. Same with Maggette. He's being shopped bigtime because Golden state is realizing he's a one aspect player and has a bad attitude. I love it!

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lo lsame thing is happening to baron.. baron is being shopped too

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So Elton bails to the Sixers and his career falls apart, so now he is on the trading block. The Sixers are shopping him to EVERY team in the league and want to move him. JUSTICE, SWEET JUSTICE. I rarely wish ill will on athletes but it does feel good that he totally disses us.. and goes on to become nothing. Same with Maggette. He's being shopped bigtime because Golden state is realizing he's a one aspect player and has a bad attitude. I love it!

lo lsame thing is happening to baron.. baron is being shopped too

Baron isn't going anywhere. Unless we somehow land Rubio (in addition to Griffin, not instead). But I do NOT want to trade Baron by any means. Yeah, he had a bad season last year, but he knows it, and he's been in the gym working out and practicing since the regular season ended. When he's on, he is one of the top pointguards in the league. I'm confident he will bounce back next season. Clippers have the whole offseason to work on their offense and really mesh as a team. Dunleavy has said multiple times in interviews that he wants the team to start running and pushing the ball more, so hopefully that happens.

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So Elton bails to the Sixers and his career falls apart, so now he is on the trading block. The Sixers are shopping him to EVERY team in the league and want to move him. JUSTICE, SWEET JUSTICE. I rarely wish ill will on athletes but it does feel good that he totally disses us.. and goes on to become nothing. Same with Maggette. He's being shopped bigtime because Golden state is realizing he's a one aspect player and has a bad attitude. I love it!

lo lsame thing is happening to baron.. baron is being shopped too

Baron isn't going anywhere. Unless we somehow land Rubio (in addition to Griffin, not instead). But I do NOT want to trade Baron by any means. Yeah, he had a bad season last year, but he knows it, and he's been in the gym working out and practicing since the regular season ended. When he's on, he is one of the top pointguards in the league. I'm confident he will bounce back next season. Clippers have the whole offseason to work on their offense and really mesh as a team. Dunleavy has said multiple times in interviews that he wants the team to start running and pushing the ball more, so hopefully that happens.

u cant trust dun. he was saying the same things last year"im gonna give the team more freedom" and none of it happened

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Baron isn't going anywhere. Unless we somehow land Rubio (in addition to Griffin, not instead). But I do NOT want to trade Baron by any means. Yeah, he had a bad season last year, but he knows it, and he's been in the gym working out and practicing since the regular season ended. When he's on, he is one of the top pointguards in the league. I'm confident he will bounce back next season. Clippers have the whole offseason to work on their offense and really mesh as a team. Dunleavy has said multiple times in interviews that he wants the team to start running and pushing the ball more, so hopefully that happens.

u cant trust dun. he was saying the same things last year"im gonna give the team more freedom" and none of it happened

IMHO Dumleavy has lost all credibility with me too. If you really pay attention to his jargon over the last few years, nothing that we see on the court jives with what comes out of his lips.

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Baron isn't going anywhere. Unless we somehow land Rubio (in addition to Griffin, not instead). But I do NOT want to trade Baron by any means. Yeah, he had a bad season last year, but he knows it, and he's been in the gym working out and practicing since the regular season ended. When he's on, he is one of the top pointguards in the league. I'm confident he will bounce back next season. Clippers have the whole offseason to work on their offense and really mesh as a team. Dunleavy has said multiple times in interviews that he wants the team to start running and pushing the ball more, so hopefully that happens.

u cant trust dun. he was saying the same things last year"im gonna give the team more freedom" and none of it happened

IMHO Dumleavy has lost all credibility with me too. If you really pay attention to his jargon over the last few years, nothing that we see on the court jives with what comes out of his lips.

yup, he's all talk and no game. he has to show us that hes ready to give the team up to baron on the first game. if on game #1 of the 09/10 season i dont see run and gun from this team, then i completely am never gonna listen to a word dunleavy says.

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I am not sure why everyone thinks Dun didn't let the team run, I saw it different. The only time it slowed down was when baron ran the offense. i saw a player walking up the court while a faint voice in the distance was heard saying "RUN , RUN".

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From you lip's to Gods ear about Baron. Seems like he wanted to make sure the other team could set their defense so he went as slow as it took ,,,seems like most of the fast breaks were because Eric was pushing it (or Fred or anyone else) but not our Baron. but I'll admit I have tried to erase most of last season form my memory banks.

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^^yeah last season was last season. Were talking about THIS season. And BD is a new BD. Ive been following on twitter and its nothing but good things from BD. working out, eating healthy. not to mention DJ put on his blog that BD did a windmill. I know thats not all we want to see but its a start compared to his o-1 dunks last season. I think BD will DEFINATELY bounce back. Esp with getting the #1 pick, it has lifted not just our spirits but also the organizations, its staff and most importantly its players.

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And I believe Sam Mays has pointed out we were like 13th in shot attemps per possession, so there was some running and gunning, but there was also lots of brick laying. The Culprits? Just look at the FG% of each player, it becomes obvious.

One other point: It strikes me as funny when people claim that the past 7 years have been so awful under Dunleavy. There was improvement every season, culminating into an historic second round seven game series. That makes Dunleavy, what, the third coach in Clippers history to get them into the post season?

My favorite rebuttal to this is giving total credit Sam Cassell. My fellow Clipper fans with long-term memory may recall that Sam wouldn't show up for his physical until he talked with management. Dunleavy personally convinced him that this was not the same ol' team of the past.

I can respect the fans who feel it's time for a change. But if you can forget those playoff games so easily, my guess is, you weren't around for them to begin with. Or maybe you're here not as a fan of the team, but as a hater of the coach. It seems to me that a real fan would root for the coach to turn it around, not hope that he fails just for the schadenfreude.

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journeyman wrote:
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I am not sure why everyone thinks Dun didn't let the team run, I saw it different. The only time it slowed down was when baron ran the offense. i saw a player walking up the court while a faint voice in the distance was heard saying "RUN , RUN".

And I believe Sam Mays has pointed out we were like 13th in shot attemps per possession, so there was some running and gunning, but there was also lots of brick laying. The Culprits? Just look at the FG% of each player, it becomes obvious.

One other point: It strikes me as funny when people claim that the past 7 years have been so awful under Dunleavy. There was improvement every season, culminating into an historic second round seven game series. That makes Dunleavy, what, the third coach in Clippers history to get them into the post season?

My favorite rebuttal to this is giving total credit Sam Cassell. My fellow Clipper fans with long-term memory may recall that Sam wouldn't show up for his physical until he talked with management. Dunleavy personally convinced him that this was not the same ol' team of the past.

I can respect the fans who feel it's time for a change. But if you can forget those playoff games so easily, my guess is, you weren't around for them to begin with. Or maybe you're here not as a fan of the team, but as a hater of the coach. It seems to me that a real fan would root for the coach to turn it around, not hope that he fails just for the schadenfreude.

Repped. Similar to what I have been saying. We had some success. Hopefully a motivated Baron and Co. can start running and moving to sets if the play allows it. I just hope Dun doesn't bite the cookie and welcome Brand back. That would be a kick in the face to us all.

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well said journey... i am one of, if not the last remaining fan rooting for dunleavy. i am behind him starting this season and definitly rooting for the team and him personally to succeed and give coach some vindication and redemption. that being said, i do understand this is his final stand, and should very well be on a short leash, meaning if this team doesnt come out as a hard working, cohesive, productive unit then hes gone. im thinking if this team isnt showing some serious promise and potential on or sometime shortly before the break, he should be replaced. but until then, without going through all the reasons ive posted on numerous other threads, im still behind him 100%.... good luck coach!!

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journeyman wrote:
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I am not sure why everyone thinks Dun didn't let the team run, I saw it different. The only time it slowed down was when baron ran the offense. i saw a player walking up the court while a faint voice in the distance was heard saying "RUN , RUN".

And I believe Sam Mays has pointed out we were like 13th in shot attemps per possession, so there was some running and gunning, but there was also lots of brick laying. The Culprits? Just look at the FG% of each player, it becomes obvious.

One other point: It strikes me as funny when people claim that the past 7 years have been so awful under Dunleavy. There was improvement every season, culminating into an historic second round seven game series. That makes Dunleavy, what, the third coach in Clippers history to get them into the post season?

My favorite rebuttal to this is giving total credit Sam Cassell. My fellow Clipper fans with long-term memory may recall that Sam wouldn't show up for his physical until he talked with management. Dunleavy personally convinced him that this was not the same ol' team of the past.

I can respect the fans who feel it's time for a change. But if you can forget those playoff games so easily, my guess is, you weren't around for them to begin with. Or maybe you're here not as a fan of the team, but as a hater of the coach. It seems to me that a real fan would root for the coach to turn it around, not hope that he fails just for the schadenfreude.

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It is very ironic. I hate to bash anybody, but he really did screw us in a class-less move last year, but in hindsight, we can't thank him enough and we dodged a bullet, to say the least.

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a-men!

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as much as u want to blame brand for leaving it has to fall on dunleavy shoulders

brand didnt want to play with an egotistical play calling piece of crap, same goes for maggete aaaaand aperantly baron davis.......pretty much any nba star who has been successful dont want to play for dunleavy

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Dodged a bullet, but no need to thank Brand either. It worked out, more or less. Nothing to do but go forward.

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Fact:

Brand wanted to stay with us. Both Brand & Dunleavy were working on the contract prior to his agent interfering. Brand actually agreed on the number before cutting all ties adn communication with both Brand & Baron.

Fact:

Maggette came crawling back to see if we would match GS's offer. Dun said, NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

So much for facts....

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Well said CJ. Took the words right out of my...well you typed em for me lets say.

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Who the hell is Elton Brand!?

Is he 1 of the 10 guys that jumped in the truck bed of Blake Griffin's, when he pulled up in the parking lot of home depot yesterday?

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^^^Clipfan I have more respect for the guys at home depot waiting for a job then I do ...oh a whats his name again. Oh yeah Cheesesteak.

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sweet justice....rip king of pop and farrah fawcett...let's get blake now!

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First, I hope EB a full recovery and an allstar career BUT as much as we pitch a Bi**h about last yr, chew on this. Corey really wanted to stay and really hoped MD would match the offer. He wasn't crawling.He was willing to take a pay cut to play with EB and BD however the ghost of Naismith was smiling on us from above. At least we have a chance to rebuild

Center Kaman out 1/3 of season

PF Brand out again with probable career ending or at least Allstar ending injuries. Still a big contract

Corey with a fat non-tradable contract

Cat career ending heart problem. At least we have EJ

BD who'd play like s**t with them gone, Another fat contract

Wishing we got Beno

Zack is easier to move now than EB

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Elton Bland!

Elton Brand will always be remembered as being that one player who was a pretty good basic player but will never take a team over the top.....Lost at Duke, Lost with team USA, went furthest with the Clippers, then terrible with the Sixers and Bulls

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