How about we make an offer to Linas Kleiza?????.............

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GOOEYLOOEY
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I think the nuggets qualifying offer is only like 2Mil. Maybe we can get him for arond 3.5mill per year for 3-4 years. He can be a back up to Al Thornton and also play a little power forward. He is only about 24 years old and i think we should at least make an offer for a guy that could be pretty good if he gets minutes.

Fire yourself Mike Dunleavy. At least get some decent offseason moves done so we can have a decent team left once your contract is done. NEW COACH PLEASE. Does anyone like Mark Jackson as our coach? Im sure he would understand what kind of play makes Baron Davis valuable. Phil Jackson is a great coach because he gets players to be themselves out there. He doesnt ask players to change their game too much. He blends the team together out there and lets them play ball. He doesn't stand on the sidelines yelling all game long and calling plays like you Mike. He just asks they play hard and play a little Defense. Thats how you get players to believe and respect the coach. As a coach you need to keep things together and teach the game to the players. Mike Dunleavy is a control freak and needs to yell all game long because he wishes he was still out there playing, but is raging mad that he cant play anymore. WWAAAAAAAAAA

clipperboy24
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Acutally not a bad idea to try and sign Kleiza. He would be an inexpensive option who can really light an offensive fire (43 points in a game two years ago) and is a good shooter.

2nd paragraph seriously sick of the dunleavy rants...

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I wouldn't mind Kleiza, the clipps could possibly split the mid level and pick up another free agent. maybe Q on the cheap and a back up PG as well. wishfull thinking but could possibly happen. All i know is we need a good back up at the point and a SG/SF, their is no depth behind EG. that Worries me a tad.

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What's the difference between Kleiza and Novak?

clipperboy24
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seriously? Maybe the fact that Kleiza can actually do something outside of shoot a 3 and can actually play a little defense. He can rebound and the occasional steals. Not a great all around player, but Novak has to be one of, if not the, most one dimensional players in the league. This would be a huge upgrade for the Clippers. Also Kleiza can drive and make the little pull up J's. Novak simply cannot create. Why do you think the rockets essentially let him go for nothing?

Why do so many people on this forum have such a hard time seeing that?

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I like Kleiza. Problem is he is a restricted FA. Denver could match any offer; would probably match $3.5M

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Small Forwards:

Hedo Turkoglu (ETO) " It was widely assumed that the Magic would do whatever they had to do in order to bring back Turk, who was an integral part of their Eastern Conference championship-winning puzzle. But after Otis Smith brought in Vince Carter via a blockbuster deal with Orlando, all bets are off. Hedo is most definitely in play. Rumors intimate that the Pistons are interested and will definitely kick the tires a bit.

Shawn Marion (Unrestricted) " Toronto would like to keep him; but only at the right price. He'll get plenty of interest, but is any team willing to break the bank for a guy who will be 31 at the start of the 2009-2010 season and has averaged approximately 13 points and 8.5 rebounds in 70+ games since being traded from Phoenix? Nonetheless, Marion is still a terrific defender and intriguing all-around talent. We shall see…

Ron Artest (U) - Ron-Ron was on his best behavior during his lone season in Houston. The Rockets seem intent on bringing him back, but they'll have plenty of competition.

Trevor Ariza (U) " No player has earned himself more money over the last couple months of the season than Ariza. Trevor proved he was a capable perimeter defender and consistently knocked down important three's on the Lakers march to the title. There will be plenty of interest league-wide; will the Lakers show Ariza the money?

Marvin Williams (R) " Late season back issues complicate the situation. He may go the Ben Gordon route and accept a one-year qualifying offer and become unrestricted next summer. That may make the most sense for both Williams and the Hawks.

Best of the rest: Linas Kleiza (R), Grant Hill, Ime Udoka, Matt Barnes, Jamario Moon (R), Walter Hermann

other than artest i wouldnt want any of these including kleiza.....bring in artest and move Al to the bench...

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clipperboy24 wrote:
MuteHaitian wrote:
What's the difference between Kleiza and Novak?

seriously? Maybe the fact that Kleiza can actually do something outside of shoot a 3 and can actually play a little defense. He can rebound and the occasional steals. Not a great all around player, but Novak has to be one of, if not the, most one dimensional players in the league. This would be a huge upgrade for the Clippers. Also Kleiza can drive and make the little pull up J's. Novak simply cannot create. Why do you think the rockets essentially let him go for nothing?

Why do so many people on this forum have such a hard time seeing that?

Linas Kleiza = Steve Novak with a little bit of improvement. Nuggets primarily used him for 3s just like how we used Novak. Like Novak he's hella inconsistent. One day he'll drain them like crazy and other days he'll get no points. If we're going to re-sign Novak, there is no point in signing Kleiza.

If we're not gonna re-sign Novak, I agree with LAClipps23 that there are far better small forwards that we could pursue besides Kleiza, players that are not as 1-dimensional as Novak and not as 1.5-dimensional as Kleiza.

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MuteHaitian wrote:
clipperboy24 wrote:
MuteHaitian wrote:
What's the difference between Kleiza and Novak?

seriously? Maybe the fact that Kleiza can actually do something outside of shoot a 3 and can actually play a little defense. He can rebound and the occasional steals. Not a great all around player, but Novak has to be one of, if not the, most one dimensional players in the league. This would be a huge upgrade for the Clippers. Also Kleiza can drive and make the little pull up J's. Novak simply cannot create. Why do you think the rockets essentially let him go for nothing?

Why do so many people on this forum have such a hard time seeing that?

Linas Kleiza = Steve Novak with a little bit of improvement. Nuggets primarily used him for 3s just like how we used Novak. Like Novak he's hella inconsistent. One day he'll drain them like crazy and other days he'll get no points. If we're going to re-sign Novak, there is no point in signing Kleiza.

If we're not gonna re-sign Novak, I agree with LAClipps23 that there are far better small forwards that we could pursue besides Kleiza, players that are not as 1-dimensional as Novak and not as 1.5-dimensional as Kleiza.

Novak cannot create... Kleiza can. Also Kleiza was not used primarily for 3's. I am guessing you didnt watch many nuggets games...

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The only problem I see with trying to acquire a player like Kleiza is what can we offer the guy to entice him to wanna leave Denver? They were a playoff team last year. Can we actually offer more money then Denver or some other team? Is he the best option for our money? I doubt Kleiza would be wearing a Clip jersey next year, but I could be wrong.

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clipperboy24 wrote:
MuteHaitian wrote:
clipperboy24 wrote:
MuteHaitian wrote:
What's the difference between Kleiza and Novak?

seriously? Maybe the fact that Kleiza can actually do something outside of shoot a 3 and can actually play a little defense. He can rebound and the occasional steals. Not a great all around player, but Novak has to be one of, if not the, most one dimensional players in the league. This would be a huge upgrade for the Clippers. Also Kleiza can drive and make the little pull up J's. Novak simply cannot create. Why do you think the rockets essentially let him go for nothing?

Why do so many people on this forum have such a hard time seeing that?

Linas Kleiza = Steve Novak with a little bit of improvement. Nuggets primarily used him for 3s just like how we used Novak. Like Novak he's hella inconsistent. One day he'll drain them like crazy and other days he'll get no points. If we're going to re-sign Novak, there is no point in signing Kleiza.

If we're not gonna re-sign Novak, I agree with LAClipps23 that there are far better small forwards that we could pursue besides Kleiza, players that are not as 1-dimensional as Novak and not as 1.5-dimensional as Kleiza.

Novak cannot create... Kleiza can. Also Kleiza was not used primarily for 3's. I am guessing you didnt watch many nuggets games...

Yes I know Kleiza can create, but not well. That's why I said he's Novak with slight improvements. I also have watched the Nuggets games...

This is a quote from Coach Karl: "Karl said one of the reasons Linas Kleiza has played fewer minutes in the postseason is "for me, putting as many playmakers on the court, rather than scorers, makes us a better team. L.K., I think, is a runner and scorer and not a playmaker. So when I can get Anthony Carter, J.R. (Smith) and Chauncey (Billups) on the court together, I did it."

Kleiza is used primarily as a scorer. Karl said it himself. I bet he can defend better than Novak, but not much better. I think it was game 2 of the Nuggets v. Lakers series that they thought of sparking their offense with LK by stretching with 3's. Sure, there were the occasional lay-ups, but most of what I saw were 3's from the wing after a sweet pass from Billups. Isn't that what Novak mostly does?

Novak's 26 years old. With a bit of work he can become what Linas Kleiza is. I'm not against bringing LK in. What I'm saying is that while he is a small improvement from our Novak, why not get a greater improvement from that list of upcoming free agents that LAClipps23 posted earlier? Why take baby steps instead of big leaps?

puddnhead83
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I agree with you, Kleiza maybe a little better but he is not worth the money.

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That's what I be trying to tell everybody we are the Clippers, yeah we might have the same weather as the Lakers but we are a totally different organization. Nobody on a playoff team is gonna leave their team for the Clippers. We have to think realistic and logically. We have people hating players here for only 1 year when the coach has been here(for years) and we wasn't winning the year before these so called cancers got here. But they want the next teams bench players and the same coach, look at the Clippers history of signing FA and see who on the list. A few Good players at the end of their career some mediocre players and some players for them to practice against. Nobody has left a championship team to go play one of the worst the previous year unless he was traded.

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MuteHaitian wrote:
clipperboy24 wrote:
MuteHaitian wrote:
clipperboy24 wrote:
MuteHaitian wrote:
What's the difference between Kleiza and Novak?

seriously? Maybe the fact that Kleiza can actually do something outside of shoot a 3 and can actually play a little defense. He can rebound and the occasional steals. Not a great all around player, but Novak has to be one of, if not the, most one dimensional players in the league. This would be a huge upgrade for the Clippers. Also Kleiza can drive and make the little pull up J's. Novak simply cannot create. Why do you think the rockets essentially let him go for nothing?

Why do so many people on this forum have such a hard time seeing that?

Linas Kleiza = Steve Novak with a little bit of improvement. Nuggets primarily used him for 3s just like how we used Novak. Like Novak he's hella inconsistent. One day he'll drain them like crazy and other days he'll get no points. If we're going to re-sign Novak, there is no point in signing Kleiza.

If we're not gonna re-sign Novak, I agree with LAClipps23 that there are far better small forwards that we could pursue besides Kleiza, players that are not as 1-dimensional as Novak and not as 1.5-dimensional as Kleiza.

Novak cannot create... Kleiza can. Also Kleiza was not used primarily for 3's. I am guessing you didnt watch many nuggets games...

Yes I know Kleiza can create, but not well. That's why I said he's Novak with slight improvements. I also have watched the Nuggets games...

This is a quote from Coach Karl: "Karl said one of the reasons Linas Kleiza has played fewer minutes in the postseason is "for me, putting as many playmakers on the court, rather than scorers, makes us a better team. L.K., I think, is a runner and scorer and not a playmaker. So when I can get Anthony Carter, J.R. (Smith) and Chauncey (Billups) on the court together, I did it."

Kleiza is used primarily as a scorer. Karl said it himself. I bet he can defend better than Novak, but not much better. I think it was game 2 of the Nuggets v. Lakers series that they thought of sparking their offense with LK by stretching with 3's. Sure, there were the occasional lay-ups, but most of what I saw were 3's from the wing after a sweet pass from Billups. Isn't that what Novak mostly does?

Novak's 26 years old. With a bit of work he can become what Linas Kleiza is. I'm not against bringing LK in. What I'm saying is that while he is a small improvement from our Novak, why not get a greater improvement from that list of upcoming free agents that LAClipps23 posted earlier? Why take baby steps instead of big leaps?

I just think he ould be the best option for around $3 mil. Of course some of the others like artest and turkoglu wold be great, but i dont think we arent shelling out that money for a player.

Also, as I have said before Novak literally does nothing but shoot 3's. Its not even a matter of Kleiza being able to create a little more. Novak cant do jack besides shoot 3's and get the occasional weak side block because he is 6'10.

Obviously as everyone has said i would want other FA's more, i just try to be realistic. Also he would probably get more PT on the CLipps plus its LA. Thats what might entice him. Also his agent is in Cali with an office in LA (i used to work for them, and it is definitely nice having a local client, plus they can get more attention) Even being with the CLippers it is still LA.

SamMays
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I think until we make our move re: which of our bigs goes, there's no reason to do anything else since we have no idea what, if anything, will be coming our way... Had we made the Memphis trade, we would have freed up enough cap space to go after a stronger player than Kleiza...

We just need to wait and see and no rush into anything... We have one big move to make, then perhaps one more depending on what happens with that first one.

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