Corey Maggette - NEED TO TRADE HIM

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Don't get me wrong, I love Corey. He gets to the line with a vengeance...but let's face it...I don't want to see my beloved team put the same lineup out there next year...it just seems pointless....we should trade Corey for a 3pt shooter or some package to get a better player...we just need to go in a 'slightly' different direction...we're on the right path, but moving him could put us over the top....but losing him won't hurt us tremendously...it's risk is worth the reward....ELGIN: MAKE IT HAPPEN!

some potential trades:

*Ron Artest

*Mike Bibby

*Mike James

*Rafer Alston

*AK-47 (may need to throw in tim thomas)

any others?? that are realistic, that is....

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AK-47 sucks! I don't want to see him crying for not producing(last seasons play-offs)! If it was AK-47 3 years ago then I might jump at the chance but his defense is the same as Elton's (coming off the weak end to block shots). Ron Artest was mentioned last year in a trade for Maggette never happened...never will.

Plus, he is famous for taking bad shots although his defense is something to write home about. Mike Bibby needs the ball and that would take away from our inside game(core of our offense). Mike would not be happy here and Sac would not trade within there division. As for the rest of your list well, we would be on the losing end of those deals.

Don't panic. All we need is a good ball distributor with a a decent shot. There is time. Now if you are looking for a BIG NAME then we would have to give up more than we can afford. I'm not to big on bringing a SAVIOR. that is the last thing we need. What we need is the last piece of the puzzle

or a band-aid till we know Livingston's future.

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Corey is a better player for sure than Mike Bibby, AK47 and Mike James. AK-47 is very one dimensional...and not a team player. Artest...i'm not going there anymore - his risk is not worth the reward. Mike Bibby used to be good...but he is much older now, is not a team player either. Mike Bibby would disappear in those playoff games against the Lakers (back when they won 3 in a row). Kings almost beat them.

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I agree with jlemm's assessment of those guys. In fact, Utah would have to throw something else beside AK47 in the deal to get Corey - not the other way around.

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I rather have maggette then ak47... if were gonna trade maggette then we must trade him for a pg or a shooter. maggette for bibby? maggette for michael redd? maybe even maggette and thomas? i would love to see michael redd in a clipper uniform! maggette thomas for agent zero? (prob not) we can maybe throw thornton in there

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QFT (Quoted For Truth).

Maximus > AK, Artest, Mike James, Alston, Bibby, Mibby et.c...

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Trade Thorton???? That was a great draft choice! Most critics said the Clippers

drafted very well. I saw A- , B+ etc.. Thorton is 23 yrs old and most say he is NBA ready. If we trade for a PG this year , next year might look have an overload of guards. Remember, we need a good back up not a starting PG. Livingston will come back. If we get a good caliber PG this year it will be for a big price and mid term contract. What will happen to Livingston? He is our future and I don't see that happening if we get someone else for a few years.

I also don't want to see Livingston on the bench. You can't find a big PG that size.... a la Magic Johnson. Look the Clippers have the pieces all they need to do is return to there team play of the 2005 -2006 season.

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I agree with ClipperJoe....we just need a backup PG capable of running the team if/when Sam goes down and preferrably one that can shoot. Again, Knight would be a good choice beacause he is very good at playing the high screen and roll which is EB's game and he is a reliable shooter from about 20ft and in. Plus, he is a decent defender. Boykins could be good also but for different reasons as he brings a ton of energy off the bench which is something the Clips desparately lacked last year. So, IMO there are still some options but we need to move soon.

I agree with most of JLemm's comments except the part about Bibby disappearing in the playoffs against the Lakers. In fact, Bibby carried the Kings in the 2001/02 playoff series averaging nearly 25 ppg and I believe he hit the game winner in game 5 of the Western Conf. Finals. In game 7 of that series, he scored 12 pts in the 4th qtr to send it to OT and then 4 more in OT but the Lakers pulled it out. I would take Bibby in a heartbeat and I think he would be perfect for this team....unfortunately he makes WAY too much money AND we would have to trade for him. At this stage of his career he is not worth that price......

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Thanks. You also made a great point about energy & pick and roll. I watch every game last year except one Toronto game that was not televised.

Two obvious elements they lacked was there inside game & the pick and roll. The pick and roll will return as long as Cassell is playing. It seemed they moved away from that last year. 2005 -2006 season was filled with that as well as their inside game. Kaman & Brand dominated. That was what the Clippers were about that year. Last year seemed like a stagnant offense. They became predictable... dbl team Brand and shut them down. If Kaman can get over his second guessing himself ( big contract) then I'm sure we're not that far off. I don't know about anyone else but I feel Kaman can be a top 5 center in the league next year. That boy has moves. I'm telling you I was amazed at some of his moves last year. Does anyone remember him taking the ball coast to coast for a dunk last year late in the season????

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Yeah I remember that play- it was like "no no no pass the ball please... whoa hey great job!!"

As far as trading Maggette- I don't think that's the answer for now. I mean unless he could be packaged with another player for a superstar it wouldn't be a good trade since the Clippers will be losing a ton of offense. I like AK47, especially his versatility at D, but at this point I think we'd need Maggette's night-in-night-out scoring more than AK47's defense & inconsistent offense.

G-Man04
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Yeah, I remember that play as well. And remember the one where he caught the alley-oop pass from half court for a dunk against the Lakers? How sweet was that?

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If the Clips don't go at least into the second round, there won't be anyone around Livvy. Too many expiring contracts and aging players. Maggette is also injury-prone. I'd be making a move to stablize the business. We need another proven veteran to go along with Brand. His cast, though talented, is not durable (Cassell, Livvy, Kamen, Maggette). Although I believe Livvy will eventually be a top-notch NBA PG, I'm afraid he won't be playing starter minutes for 3-4 years. I am hoping Thorton will fill some of the durability void, and Thomas is proven. Maybe Navarro is the missing piece? As a 3-4 year backup guard, he could spell Cassell, Mobley and Livvy.

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Oh! the sweet memories.....I almost choked eating dinner and spilled my drink on my lap. My brother walked out of the room (laker fan).

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I've finally figured my schizophrenic feelings about Corey. I'd love to be in his skin with his "stud value" . I'd be dating all the Laker Girls at the same time BUT when will his game equal his fame?. Will he ever be 20pt/6reb/4asst guaranteed? EB said after the King Thing that heads would roll. Thomas and Corey? Dunleavy wanted to start Q and probably WANTS #50 and Thornton off the bench. If Thornton shows up, Corey is redundant (and expensive). $7.8 large for CM vs peanuts for Q and Thornton. Q's game will only get better. He shows up and he's not injury prone. Look at his offense with the Kings.

Corey for Navarro sign and trade and throw in Eitan so it won't kill their cap. Hell, I'd throw in Williams. If they don't like Corey, he's gone at the end of the yr. For you cheap SOB's who are worried about caps-- we lose $7.8 so we won't die. Nxt yr. Sam+ Shaun ( I Pray not) $11. Corey will want more cheese nxt yr if he's here. EB (?), Q $3. Add in the other stuff and subtract #50 and we have MAJOR STAR if EB will go along---A pipe dream

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Corey is a steal at $8 mil. $8 mil for your second highest scorer??? Dunleavy already said Maggette is starting this season. No ifs and buts. So to answer your question on whether he will ever become a 20pt/6reb/4asst player.... as a starter -YES! Thorton will play SF or PF not guard. Corey is listed as Guard. Sam is not coming back next year so we have a little room for the following year. Clippers won't sign him. Quinton Ross was signed for the option of the last year of his contract. No promise he will be back. He has very much improved in his offense so my feeling would be he would return. I would love to see Maggette start as the small forward with Thomas off the bench. I would use Thorton as back up for EB. All we need is a second PG for Cassell and we are ready to roll. Here is what I would do with what we got;

First team

Elton Brand Corey Maggette ( SF) * rotate to second Guard when needed Chris Kaman Quinton Ross Sam Cassell

second team

Al thorton Cuttino Mobley ( said he wouldn't mind coming off the bench so Maggette can start) Tim thomas (SF & C) * Brevin Knight when we sign him or whoever we sign

*This would be a 9 man rotation

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Paul Davis too

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Works for me.

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I have played with a number of line-ups and found a 9-man I like: Starts with the standard bunch, but can be worked out to finish the half and game with a VERY tough to defend offensive team. Take a look ...

Starters (same as above)

C - Chris Kaman

PF- Elton Brand

SF- Corey Maggette

SG- Cuttino Mobley

PG- Sam Cassell

Finishers

C - T. Thomas

PF- Elton Brand

SF- Al Thorton

SG -Corey Maggette

PG- Sam Cassell

Who do you guard? 4 guys who can / will shoot the 3, plus Brand!

Subs

Q. Ross

Brevin Knight or whoever we sign

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Yeah I wouldn't trade Corey for Navarro + pieces. Corey is a a big time proven scorer at the NBA level, while Navarro isn't. Also Navarro is pretty skinny and not too tall for a 2-guard. His size would be nice for a PG and obviously he could fill in at SG too.

I like that team lineup you have there TD- our current line-up is pretty solid.

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We may even go for adding a lower cost PG with Cassell, Jordan, and Livvy on the IR and save most of the MLE (i.e Dee Brown). They should think about shopping older vets for next year (Mobley, Thomas, Cassell).

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Tim Thomas doesnt really add too much to the team like Cassell or Mobley do. I'd be in favor of trading Thomas...but only for the right person, because even though I dont care for Tim Thomas, he does provide great shooting (on some nights) and is an athletic forward who can pretty much play the 3,4 and 5. Right now, he's pretty needed in the frontcourt because of their decision to let Singleton go.

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Completely agree with you 100%. I was kind of mad that Singleton was let go to. He was the most energetic player they had. Not kidding about that! I thought we would of made a difference had he started for the team.

Tim Thomas is pretty streaky but We need someone who can shoot the 3 pionter. Aside from Mobley & Cassell , Thomas is the only person who can shoot from downtown. But like you said, if the right person came along I have no problem with trading him.

clippersforlife33
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i would love to have michael redd on the team. maybe we can offer some trades?

any1 else agree

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Michael Redd and a backup big guy for Mobley and Thomas?? We'd instantly have offense...but I doubt the Bucks would do the trade and I'm not sure how good Redd is on defense. Mobley is probably much better in that area, plus he has chemistry with the team. All the teamwork aspects of winning would take a while to adjust with Redd instead of Mobley. Mobley knows where Cassell is gonna be on the court and vice versa. Even though Michael Redd can get you 30 plus points a nite usually, I'd still rather have Mobley at this point.

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I don't know j-43... M Redd is pretty freaking good. Do the NBA.com comparison with Cuttino and they match up fairly evenly, with the exception that Redd almost doubles CM's scoring in nearly the same minutes. And he's younger. But you're right when you say that the Bucks wouldn't do the deal. At least I doubt it. As to the chemistry? Who knows, you may be right about that too. But it's a given that Redd is a stud and one of maybe... what?... top four or five shooters in the game? ....

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Timmy T is a key piece- he's a big time 3 point shooter, and other than Mobley (and a healthy Cassell) we don't really have anyone else who shoots the 3. So if he does get traded I hope it's for another 3 point shooter- like Redd. But yeah I doubt the Bucks would trade their superstar like that.

Like DBW I think our team is in good shape, though depth at the PG is a big concern. Navarro is gone now- he would've given depth at PG/SG- dammit!!! Hey maybe the Grizz will trade a guy like Kyle Lowry to us now that they have Navarro.

clippersforlife33
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i wish we can get andre miller back. he will help so much. miller and eb together dammm

clippersforlife33
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forget about the andre miller pick up now that we have brevin knight. LETS GET Q richardson!! wow have him back again. now that his healthy lets try to pick him up and he can back mobley up and his a greatt shooter and has a good backdown game

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