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Post subject: What direction are we going? which way do you want to go?
 Posted: Jun 30, 2009 - 12:14 AM PST
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Now there is only 4 scenarios this season and off season can end up...so lets be real in what direction we think were going and what direction you want to go... like ive heard before on this site, there is 2 kind of clipper fans...
scene #1 ( The Clipper Way )
Its a nice hot august, there's a lot of rumors out , lots of trades going on....Mike dunleavy decides he cant handle Baron anymore, he's getting offers for zach up the wahoo.... so here is the situation...... we trade baron, we trade zach....we bring in rookies like lets say a ricky rubio, and expiring contracts and were back to being the los angeles paper clips for the next 4-5 years till blake realizes like previous clipper players he needs to get the hell out of here orrrrr it actually works in the 30 years of trying to rebuild and at the 3-4 year we look a lot like the blazers and make the playoffs and get outed the 1st couple years...
basically the old dreadful words some clipper fans love..... THE FUTURE
scene #2 ( the little help )
Dunleavy has clearly showed his desire to keep everyone, which makes sense cause he is a "lets have match up problems" freak of a coach....so here's the situation..... No one gets traded, Blake comes off the bench, ricky davis returns with marty and fred and hopefully those 4 guys are key to winning more games than 19....how much more u ask?? well thats for you to decide, but its a very possible scenario and a very dangerous one.....
scene #3 ( The Trades )
Now in this particular situation we can have a couple of options of which direction to go....
Kaman trade: 1st off one thing is clear, I don't see the clippers trading kaman unless its a wow kinda of player and we saw that with the turn down of a mike miller/kaman trade.....so when u see kaman for a hinrich i wouldn't be so intrigued by that cause its clear dunleavy isnt...then again kaman has been the most inconsistant year by year player ive ever seen....but no way he should be traded for chumps or picks
zach trades: now this could go either way, 1st is the clipper way in scenario #1 give him up for the future if its a rookie or expiring...or we trade him for a another star who could put up his numbers but in a different position, but i intend to go the mark jackson jeff van gundy way with zach....you have to be crazy to trade him unless ur rebuilding
camby trade: camby avg 10ppg, has high value for block shots/alternate shots...he makes 1o or 5 million next year with his contract expiring in 2010, he fought hard for us last season but with no results...he and baron couldnt find a balance, baron couldnt even go for layups due to camby not being guarded outside....thats not speculation thats a fact...and god knows what would happen to blake with camby on the floor...so tradeing camby makes the most sense but if kaman and zach dont pick up anything on the Defense of end were in trouble cause u cant expect griffin to be a specialist.......and another thing is clear, camy abiltity to gaurd one on one is gone....great help defender but one on one its just over
so all in all The Trades can show us which direction we would be going, so who do u want out? and what direction do you want to go with that player being gone?
scenario #4 ( The Millennium Celtics/Lakers way )
what is the millennium celtics/laker way you ask?? The laker/ceitcs way is the easiest most affective way to win a championship this day of age....its basically trade your rookies/crap for all stars and vets and have the 2nd wave of rookies aka the rajon rondo's... big babys... leon pow..farmer and vuajic play with the hall famers too progress better than they would normally
Now this is the tuffest situation to comprehend, cause we are the clippers.. and to see the red/white/blue hold the Larry Obrien Trophy next season is IMPOSSIBLE for the majority of us to comprehend,
Now RECENT history shows its not only possible it can happen but with the valuable assets we have on this team this year makes it a priority in my eyes....
and thats the scenario i personally want.....i want a ring....but i understand to some here trading draft picks aka the only thing that excite us for the past 30 years is IMPOSSIBLE to do .....but again not only it could be done...it should be done...
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Post subject: RE: What direction are we going? which way do you want to go
Posted: Jun 30, 2009 - 12:29 AM PST
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| I think the Clippers should stay in a semi rebuilding semi win-now mode. For the history of this franchise, going into every season has been very disappointing. That's why I think they shouldn't go full blown rebuilding because it's never worked for them, and not try to win now completely because there are just too many good teams out there and Dunleavy can't keep up. He's AWFUL!!!!! The Clippers should start out by trading one of their 4 big men, obviously not Blake. It should be Zach or Kaman. Whoever out of those two should be traded not for cap relief, but rather veteran help where they need it, like a season swingman. (Jason Richardson, Gerald Wallace, T-Mac, etc. Those types) That alone will work out great for the team It clears tim for Blake and keeps some of the older players like Baron happy. This will keep the team respectable with a decent record. |
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Posted: Jun 30, 2009 - 09:36 PM PST
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lakers4life21 wrote:
I think the Clippers should stay in a semi rebuilding semi win-now mode. For the history of this franchise, going into every season has been very disappointing. That's why I think they shouldn't go full blown rebuilding because it's never worked for them, and not try to win now completely because there are just too many good teams out there and Dunleavy can't keep up. He's AWFUL!!!!! The Clippers should start out by trading one of their 4 big men, obviously not Blake. It should be Zach or Kaman. Whoever out of those two should be traded not for cap relief, but rather veteran help where they need it, like a season swingman. (Jason Richardson, Gerald Wallace, T-Mac, etc. Those types) That alone will work out great for the team It clears tim for Blake and keeps some of the older players like Baron happy. This will keep the team respectable with a decent record.
im all for gerald wallace........but semi win mode now with a 65 million dollar point guard isnt gonna cut it...
baron kaman randolph have 24 years combined in this league... |
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Post subject: RE: Re: RE: What direction are we going? which way do you wa
Posted: Jun 30, 2009 - 09:44 PM PST
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I think we'll keep the bulk of the team togther for next year, minus one of the bigs for a backup point guard... If it works and we're a playoff team, everyone is happy.
If the team fails, then the answers will be clear. Rebuild... |
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Post subject: Re: RE: Re: RE: What direction are we going? which way do yo
Posted: Jun 30, 2009 - 09:49 PM PST
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SamMays wrote:
I think we'll keep the bulk of the team togther for next year, minus one of the bigs for a backup point guard... If it works and we're a playoff team, everyone is happy.
If the team fails, then the answers will be clear. Rebuild...
you think lets say a kirk hinrich or jaret jack combined with the new addition of blake griffin would make us a playoff team??
which big man would u want traded? |
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Post subject: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: What direction are we going? which way d
Posted: Jun 30, 2009 - 11:51 PM PST
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| I think adding Hinrich, Jack or Sessions will make us playoff contenders. |
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Post subject: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: What direction are we going? which w
Posted: Jun 30, 2009 - 11:56 PM PST
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MJSF wrote:
I think adding Hinrich, Jack or Sessions will make us playoff contenders.
wow, only an addition of blake griffin and one of those point guards would make us a playoff team!!??!?!
even tho it would be an upgrade i dont see it as a 25-30 more wins boost....
we would need a major upgrade at the bench for that to happen... |
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Post subject: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: What direction are we going? whi
Posted: Jun 30, 2009 - 11:58 PM PST
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| Our bench would consist of one of those guys plus AL, Taylor, Novak*, R.Davis, Camby or Kaman & Jordan. I like our chances if that happens. |
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Post subject: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: What direction are we going?
Posted: Jul 01, 2009 - 12:10 AM PST
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MJSF wrote:
Our bench would consist of one of those guys plus AL, Taylor, Novak*, R.Davis, Camby or Kaman & Jordan. I like our chances if that happens.
baron
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jarret jack/session/hinrich
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i dont see it....AL and hinrich in the back court be awesome but the rest would need more help
and having Al as the sixth man would be alot for him to handle ...cause u gotta BRING IT every night as a sixth man... |
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Post subject: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: What direction are we go
Posted: Jul 01, 2009 - 12:14 AM PST
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| Obviously with the departure of Skinner, Acker and possibly Jones we'll need to fill in those blanks. So maybe we should pick this convo up after we get some deals dunzo. |
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Post subject: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: What direction are w
Posted: Jul 01, 2009 - 12:17 AM PST
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MJSF wrote:
Obviously with the departure of Skinner, Acker and possibly Jones we'll need to fill in those blanks. So maybe we should pick this convo up after we get some deals dunzo.
im praying for an all star 2.....move eric to the bench with AL
as much as i like fred jones he shouldn't be the one backing up any starter... |
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Posted: Jul 01, 2009 - 12:19 AM PST
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| dunleavy is not smart enough to realize the talent of gerard wallace. we had that offer during the season and we basically squashed it |
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Posted: Jul 01, 2009 - 12:29 AM PST
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jarca wrote:
dunleavy is not smart enough to realize the talent of gerard wallace. we had that offer during the season and we basically squashed it
ya but it was for kaman....aaaand i dont know about that...especially when we would have camby staying...
good lord .. imagine 2 guys who cant shoot in the starting line up...i mean wallace can score! he's a scorer but that paint would be clogggggggeddd..
with camby standing alone outside waiting for the ball so he can take 3 seconds too shoot it
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Posted: Jul 01, 2009 - 12:38 AM PST
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| I like Gerald Wallace, I think he is a great defender. The only problem I see with Wallace is that he is injury prone because of the way he plays. |
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Posted: Jul 01, 2009 - 12:42 AM PST
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| Crash Wallace would be a dope pickup but that injury bug likes him a little too much. |
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Posted: Jul 01, 2009 - 12:58 AM PST
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I've never been sold on Gerald. There is a reason why Larry Brown wanted him out. He couldn't get rid of him even when he offered to take an injured Kaman. In fact, I don't think there were any takers for him after Brown basically had a "for sale" sign on Craig's list.
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Posted: Jul 01, 2009 - 12:58 AM PST
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MJSF wrote:
Crash Wallace would be a dope pickup but that injury bug likes him a little too much.
him and griffin can be the crash test dunny's |
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Posted: Jul 01, 2009 - 02:14 AM PST
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My wish list for next season mostly #3 trades
1) Trade Kaman (and possibly a Future first) to Houston for a sign and trade for Artest. Now realistically is Kaman ever going to get back to his old form? I doubt it. Houston needs a big and we need a player like Artest. I would also substitute Artest for Tayshaun Prince if Detroit goes after Ariza.
2) Keep Camby until the trade deadline and see what we can get for him or if having cap space would be a better option. Also hopefully trade Sticky before the trade deadline.
3) Use Zach as our force on the bench, Blake needs to start. Hopefully Zack will be OK with this as long as he’s still getting paid.
4) Try to get a vet like Bruce Bowen to come in off the bench and provide some leadership.
5) Hope that Baron’s and DJ’s hard work this off season pays off. I would love to see Baron Windmill dunk in a game and DJ to become solid enough to bench Kaman if he is being lazy.
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Posted: Jul 01, 2009 - 02:48 AM PST
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^^^
Totally agree , i just don't see Zach coming off the bench..
I would love to see Kaman for Artest. Artest can shoot and plays defense really well.
I would love to see him play against kobe 4 times in a LAC jersey. |
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Posted: Jul 01, 2009 - 03:08 AM PST
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| I actually wouldn't mind if we stayed exactly the way we are and just played run n gun all year. We're young and on paper we are already stacked! B Diddy, Griffin, Air Gordon, Novak, (the man who makes the BINGO we know and love possible every night) Thornton, EVERYBODY. They can all ball. Z Bo is prolly the wackest dude on the squad and he can go 20 and 10 if he wants. Going to the games last season and seeing all this talent made me feel like we HAD to be throwing the season just to get the number 1. The squad is playoff bound this season as is imho. |
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Posted: Jul 01, 2009 - 02:02 PM PST
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| The Clippers have to realize how tough the West really is. The teams that are locks for the playofs are the Lakers, Nuggets, Jazz, Spurs, and Portland, with Dallas and NO right on their toes. That's 7 teams right there, and to me the only hope for the Clippers is to rely on the Rockets plummeting because of Yao and the Suns going into a rebuilding mode. But that alone won't cut it, because an injury ridden Rockets team is sill better than the Clippers team right now, because we've seen what the Rockets did to the Lakers in the playoffs without Yao. If the goal for the Clippers is to make the playoffs, simply getting a talented backup PG will not do the trick. On paper, the Clippers have a very talented squad, and it seems whatever they try fails. It starts with going in a new direction with coaching. After that, they have to start fixing the huge mistakes Dunleavy made, and trade Kaman/Zach for a quality swingman, a veteran. Once that happens, you can start talking playoffs. Until then, no go. |
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Post subject: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: What direction are we going? which w
Posted: Jul 01, 2009 - 02:19 PM PST
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Clipperlifeeeeee wrote:
MJSF wrote:
I think adding Hinrich, Jack or Sessions will make us playoff contenders.
wow, only an addition of blake griffin and one of those point guards would make us a playoff team!!??!?!
even tho it would be an upgrade i dont see it as a 25-30 more wins boost....
I think that's about all that will happen this off-season. But, there are other elements that should improve without making any moves... A bunch of "ifs," basically.
1. If Kaman plays a whole season at a reasonable level, we will be much better for it.
2. If Baron is interested and athletic this year, we will be much better for it.
3. If Griffin's hustle rubs off on some of our lazier vets, we will be much better for it.
4. If Gordon is improved and Baron does a better job of getting him the ball, we will be much better for it.
5. If Taylor and Jordan show reasonable improvement, that will help.
6. Add a Sessions or other solid back court player will give us a better balanced roster.
All six of these things could and should reasonably happen... None is pie in the sky.
Remember, everything that could go wrong last year did go wrong... Kaman missed the whole season. Baron might as well have missed the whole season.
We could be a playoff team THIS YEAR if the above takes place... The biggest danger, other than the obvious threat of injuries, is Baron's maturity level... What kind of leader will he be? Will he be in it for the team, or just himself? He could resent the attention Griffin gets and be a bigger negative than he was last year.
I suspect he'll grow up a bit and have a decent year... If he spreads the ball around and doesn't try to dominate the offense, we could win 40-50 games...
If he tries to be the star all the time, reduce those numbers by 10. |
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Posted: Jul 01, 2009 - 02:33 PM PST
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lakers4life21 wrote:
The Clippers have to realize how tough the West really is. The teams that are locks for the playofs are the Lakers, Nuggets, Jazz, Spurs, and Portland, with Dallas and NO right on their toes. That's 7 teams right there, and to me the only hope for the Clippers is to rely on the Rockets plummeting because of Yao and the Suns going into a rebuilding mode. But that alone won't cut it, because an injury ridden Rockets team is sill better than the Clippers team right now, because we've seen what the Rockets did to the Lakers in the playoffs without Yao. If the goal for the Clippers is to make the playoffs, simply getting a talented backup PG will not do the trick. On paper, the Clippers have a very talented squad, and it seems whatever they try fails. It starts with going in a new direction with coaching. After that, they have to start fixing the huge mistakes Dunleavy made, and trade Kaman/Zach for a quality swingman, a veteran. Once that happens, you can start talking playoffs. Until then, no go.
Fortunately we believe we do have the talent to compete. In the west right now nothing is given, not even the Lakers repeating. The Clips have a talented core, but unlike last year we will not be in full scramble mode in the season.( Are 11 players really going to be acquired this off season?) And while the debate on Dunleavy has been long standing, but I have seen coaches I do not believe to be better do better. I think the Griffin pickup is huge because I think we need an on the court off the court leader. Do you remember when Roy called out Randolph on Portland? I think he will be the same. And a better backup point will put us in better position to trade Davis if he falls asleep at the wheel again. I think the motivation of our players can put us position to make noise. |
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Posted: Jul 01, 2009 - 03:08 PM PST
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| I know for a fact that BDiddy will be pumped up, but how far can that take a team, especially one that is always trying to find their identity? I do believe the Clippers can have a winning record, but only with the right mindset and being focused from day one. The Lakers were the most focused team last season, after every single practice they brought it in and on 3 they yelled ring. Every time. They ended up getting the ring with focus and determination by the FO and the players. But the Clippers are a different story, they never decide if they're gonna rebuild or go win now, so they're never focused on a goal. It's all mish mash up in the air. Nothing is for certain unless a goal is created. |
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lakers4life21 wrote:
I know for a fact that BDiddy will be pumped up, but how far can that take a team, especially one that is always trying to find their identity? I do believe the Clippers can have a winning record, but only with the right mindset and being focused from day one. The Lakers were the most focused team last season, after every single practice they brought it in and on 3 they yelled ring. Every time. They ended up getting the ring with focus and determination by the FO and the players. But the Clippers are a different story, they never decide if they're gonna rebuild or go win now, so they're never focused on a goal. It's all mish mash up in the air. Nothing is for certain unless a goal is created.
It wasn't focus, it was about having a stacked team that has played together for over 3-4 years. It was about the Gasol trade. It was about PJ and Kobe. Without Gasol, I don't see you guys winning. It wasn't till that trade, that you guys haven't looked back. Maybe if we can have this team play together for as long as you guy have, and maybe mysteriously get a Player like Gasol for basically nothing, we might be in the same position as you guys. It was only a matter of time before you guys won another ring.
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Posted: Jul 01, 2009 - 04:37 PM PST
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Clipperlifeeeeee wrote:
MJSF wrote:
I think adding Hinrich, Jack or Sessions will make us playoff contenders.
wow, only an addition of blake griffin and one of those point guards would make us a playoff team!!??!?!
even tho it would be an upgrade i dont see it as a 25-30 more wins boost....
we would need a major upgrade at the bench for that to happen...
lets rewind back to the 96-97 season... Th San Antonio Spurs finished with a dismal record of 20-62 (third worst in the league, sound familiar?) and won the rights to the #1 pick of the 97 Draft.
In that draft there was no doubt talented players (at least they seemed at the time) but the true prize in the draft was no doubt, Tim Duncan.
The Spurs had good vets: The Admiral, Sean Elliot, Malik Rose, Avery Johnson, but were punished by injuries (D. Rob played 6 games, Sean Elliot 39 games). The addition of Duncan completely turned the Franchise around and Kaman, I mean David Robinson came back from injury and dominated ending the season with a 56-26 record (breaking their previous high in wins) and making it to the second round eventually losing to the Jazz who went to the finals.
This could be us. Blake Griffin is a franchise changer and I think he is going to really help the franchise turn around! |
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The difference is, that SA team had been successful before Duncan got there... They were only able to get him because of one horrible year due to the injury of David Robinson... With the addition of Duncan, they more or less returned to form, plus a bit...
I do believe that Griffin is a game changer though... If healthy, I think his presence alone adds 10 wins... If the rest of the guys shape up, it could be a good year. |
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Post subject: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: What direction are we going?
Posted: Jul 01, 2009 - 07:18 PM PST
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SamMays wrote:
The difference is, that SA team had been successful before Duncan got there... They were only able to get him because of one horrible year due to the injury of David Robinson... With the addition of Duncan, they more or less returned to form, plus a bit...
I do believe that Griffin is a game changer though... If healthy, I think his presence alone adds 10 wins... If the rest of the guys shape up, it could be a good year.
I hope Griffin and a motivated crew can improve better than 10 games. |
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Post subject: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: What direction are we going?
Posted: Jul 02, 2009 - 02:36 PM PST
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SamMays wrote:
The difference is, that SA team had been successful before Duncan got there... They were only able to get him because of one horrible year due to the injury of David Robinson... With the addition of Duncan, they more or less returned to form, plus a bit...
I do believe that Griffin is a game changer though... If healthy, I think his presence alone adds 10 wins... If the rest of the guys shape up, it could be a good year.
Ok, then what about the Spurs from 84-89? Really inconsistent to horrible, a la Clippers. Then Robinson gets out of the Navy and plays for them in the 89-90 season and BAM!! Record goes from 21-61 to 56-26.
That is very similar to the Clipps especially since Sean Elliot really helped much how Gordo is and will help us! |
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Posted: Jul 02, 2009 - 03:44 PM PST
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lakers4life21 wrote:
The Clippers have to realize how tough the West really is. The teams that are locks for the playofs are the Lakers, Nuggets, Jazz, Spurs, and Portland, with Dallas and NO right on their toes. That's 7 teams right there, and to me the only hope for the Clippers is to rely on the Rockets plummeting because of Yao and the Suns going into a rebuilding mode. But that alone won't cut it, because an injury ridden Rockets team is sill better than the Clippers team right now, because we've seen what the Rockets did to the Lakers in the playoffs without Yao. If the goal for the Clippers is to make the playoffs, simply getting a talented backup PG will not do the trick. On paper, the Clippers have a very talented squad, and it seems whatever they try fails. It starts with going in a new direction with coaching. After that, they have to start fixing the huge mistakes Dunleavy made, and trade Kaman/Zach for a quality swingman, a veteran. Once that happens, you can start talking playoffs. Until then, no go.
I agree that the top 5 west teams are almost set, but after that it's anyone's game. New Orleans? They have 0 momentum after last season's embarrassing end, what was it like a 50 point home loss? Mavericks are investing way too much into Jason Kidd and Dirk looks older every year. Suns, I have no idea what they're doing. It seems like Steve Kerr can't make up his mind, he keeps going after half-court style players. West is wide open for playoff slots, I wouldn't be surprised if we got in, then again I wouldn't be surprised if we didn't, it's a toss up.
I think we're going to run-and-gun like crazy this year to build momentum, a fan base, and most importantly....stats. We're gonna try to attract an all-star in 2010 with our cap space |
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Posted: Jul 02, 2009 - 03:46 PM PST
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lakers4life21 wrote:
I know for a fact that BDiddy will be pumped up, but how far can that take a team, especially one that is always trying to find their identity? I do believe the Clippers can have a winning record, but only with the right mindset and being focused from day one. The Lakers were the most focused team last season, after every single practice they brought it in and on 3 they yelled ring. Every time. They ended up getting the ring with focus and determination by the FO and the players. But the Clippers are a different story, they never decide if they're gonna rebuild or go win now, so they're never focused on a goal. It's all mish mash up in the air. Nothing is for certain unless a goal is created.
Griffin has already gone on record it's to make the playoffs and I think that's a very realistic goal. We have a lot of momentum built up over this off-season |
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