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sunnydrew3
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Apparently we are dead last in the ultimate franchise rankings. This is pre-Griffin I would assume and we just had one of our worst seasons ever, so its not a huge surprise, but I thought I would share.

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/news/story?id=4297569

clipper*joe
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^^^ I saw that last night on ESPN.

sunnydrew3
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Yeah they have been putting it on every sportscenter last night and today.

clipperstown
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i actually agree with everything in that chart.

SeanB
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atleast the clips are #1 at something...

clipshow
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LOL @ SeanB. So are you going to start the were number 1 chant...

mj_shoefanatic
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roll BSPN

Icecoldclipper
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I dont know about very last but we are close.

SeanB
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We're # 1! we're # 1!

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If you read the article its not a bash. The article is basing on on fan interaction and pricing. Lets face it, I was paying $9.00 for a burger, $10.00 for a beer, ,and $7.50 to watch us win 19 games. Now if the beer was $5.00 that would help ease it up some...

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Time will tell, heck to be honest i was wondering about that kaman-miller trade....oh and good to be back ^_-

MrB
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It doesnt surprise me coming from ESPN. All the Clipps can do is change from this point on. Forget about the past. Its time to move forward.

LAC_12
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I hear this a lot. Forget the past... No we should not forget the past, we should remember it each and every day as to learn from it - where we DO NOT WANT TO BE, WHY WE ARE GOING TO PLAY SO HARD. As Bob Marley said, "in this bright future, you cant forget your past"

If we just FORGET the past, were bound to fall in the same hole.

ToneE
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yea. ridiculous prices i remember. and when they used to not give you a cap to your water bottle. and everything at mcdonalds is seperate!haha

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Just wondering if you guys have seen this and if you have any takes. There are supposedly 122 professional major team in the NFL,NBA,MLB and NHL. All teams were put together and reanked by cost for fans, owners, bang for bucks, stadium experience , coaches and other things. Out of 122, we came in dead last. My Raiders came in 119, the Dodgers were 50 and the number one team are the Angels.

I'm sure someone here could find the online link, I subscribe to the rag.

For me it #^&*&^@ me off. The Lakers are rated a lot higher and we use the same arena and have a better fan experience and a better cost. We should be at least 100 !

lakers4life21
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You really can't blame the people who wrote this. Just because you're a Clippers fan doesn't mean you have to be biased. Here, I'm a 3rd party, I don't hate the Clippers, I don't love them. Honestly, I think they're right. What have the Clippers done in the past? What kind of news have they made? How many championships do they have? What superstars have they breeded? The answer to the last two questions is 0. Sure you can love your team but be realistic. The Clippers in their history have been almost always one of the worst teams unfortunately...

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This article is not talking the past. This is a fan poll based on how well the team responds to the fans. The team does well with giveaways, but everything else is bad. Pricing,parking, and ticket prices. So the past really has nothing to do with the article..

sz123456
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This poll is so dumb. Let's face it, the Clippers are a band wagon team. When we are doing poorly, people love to make fun of us and kick us when we're down. As soon as we start to show promise, people jump on our band wagon as if we're some kind of Disney come-from-behind miracle that makes you feel warm and fuzzy inside. This poll means nothing, it was dictated by fans.

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We can only go UP from here.. (( plus I don't care what they think.. I enjoy going to the games!! ))

sz123456
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Me too, I wasn't polled for this thing! I hope they keep saying how horrible we are to really drive Griffin, it seems like it is fueling him more and more

EI_Nino_Jesus
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Just wait till we pull up from behind and become the dark horse team, then people will say, "oh yes the clippers are good they have a good team", then the alternate if we do bad, "clippers suck they make kobe, look bad by living there", (actual quote from a few laker fans I know)

Number2
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LOL.. El Nino... but I don't think the Clippers care if we make kobe look bad..

MrB
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LAC_12 wrote:
MrB wrote:
Forget about the past. Its time to move forward.

I hear this a lot. Forget the past... No we should not forget the past, we should remember it each and every day as to learn from it - where we DO NOT WANT TO BE, WHY WE ARE GOING TO PLAY SO HARD. As Bob Marley said, "in this bright future, you cant forget your past"

If we just FORGET the past, were bound to fall in the same hole.

If you want to dwell on the past, great. I've been a Clip fan for almost 20 years and I really dont care to relive all the bs that happened before. You wanna do it. More power to you. I see a bright future ahead and that is my focus for this team.

toohipcliptoslip
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If your club is the bottom that means you can sneak up and bite everybody else in the arse before they know they're gonna get bit

Icecoldclipper
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Artest may now be going to the Lakers damn we can't catch a break.

toohipcliptoslip
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Break? Did we really want Artest? We could have traded him for Corey two years ago. We didn't. We got BG. We got EG. We got Camby. We have five starters who are potential Monsters maybe 5-6. if Ricky and Q show up and there's more. We if we get Novak have two of the better 3 pt shooters around. Mardy smoked Pierce. Jones is underrated. Our problem is these guys don't show up. This mid season count the points. With the exception of Cakeman every one can score 20 (BG showw up ???) CK should be 15/12, Marcus 8 boards off the bench. Dudes, on paper DJ is the only weak link but he can get boards and block shots like Camby (For you Pups go to Youtube and watch Wilt block shots. Greatest player ever).

Artest is good only if he takes his meds. Jackson can handle him Dunleavy couldn't. Boozer or Prince would seal the deal but they proably will cost too much talent

Even the last two years even LAL fans have said that on paper,we're monsters. "The Clippers scare me" #8

Icecoldclipper
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Just the fact Artest potentially going to the Lakers makes me sick of the idea they have a strong chance to win the West AGAIN!

On paper? no offense after last season I wipe my behind with the paper we are supposedly dangerous on.lol Very Happy I want results nothing less cold hard wins in the worse way. Some fans can take losing or waiting another season if our player tried, I can't we need to improve now.

We have had young talent before but if we don't win I 100% guarentee you EG, DJ, Al, and even Mike will be gone and blossom. Dunleavy can't handle Artest he can't handle the team we havebut all the same. This is go time no more waiting.

toohipcliptoslip
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The Lakers will win another ring. With Hedo gone, forget Orlando. Cavs--no way. Last season was a disaster which had no reflection on what the team could do. Remember the teams we beat or should have beaten. EG getting suckered into a Rook mistake against Houston. Zack taking a stupid shot against Cleve,and a generally stupid 4th quarter. Kobe ADMITTEDLY cheating. Beating Boston with our bench. Blowing 20 pt leads. Coming back from 20 pt deficits only to lose. Losing almost every OT game. Loosing to High School caliber teams. Have you ever seen the TV show F Troop?

BTW "I fart in your general direction. Your mother was a hamster and your father smelled of elderberrys. I wag my private parts in front of your Aunties. I clean my nose on you" Monty Python's Holy Grail. If you haven't seen it see it.

Excuse my typing but Miguel Spanish red wine ain't bad

Icecoldclipper
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lol okay

EG-Chicago

ZBo-Broken Play

4th- don't want even start that debate

Kobe-funny but we did kind of have a few shots and missed

Boston- still can't figure how we won that it was a miracle game by Mardy on Pierce

Blowing Leads-Lmao most games we never had one

Comebacks- this is interesting because I can't remember a single game where we were really really down and came back to win

OT-Thought our chances were better in OT, meant we didn't have a complete collapse in the fourth

Highschool teams- Well the general opinion is High School Team>>>> Elementary school team (last season Clipps) lol

F-Troop- No.But from my opinion of our season was like Pootie Tang. You want to walk away but you cant turn away.

Izlix
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thats odd... i swear i read an ESPN article ranking the NBA franchises best to worst, and it had the clips at 29... seems a bit contradictory Smile

Derty_Bert
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Did you expect to be at the top of the list.

b_diddy
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haha come on let's be for real here ron.. its true lets face it. dont let it get to you, were on the rise and everyone knows it. this measured last year and i think we can all agree last year was terrible. so let it go and lets look forward to this coming year.. it should be exciting.

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Break? Did we really want Artest? We could have traded him for Corey two years ago. We didn't. We got BG. We got EG. We got Camby. We have five starters who are potential Monsters maybe 5-6. if Ricky and Q show up and there's more. We if we get Novak have two of the better 3 pt shooters around. Mardy smoked Pierce. Jones is underrated. Our problem is these guys don't show up. This mid season count the points. With the exception of Cakeman every one can score 20 (BG showw up ???) CK should be 15/12,....

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toohipcliptoslip
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The point of the post was how many times we should have won but didn't. There were games when we up to 19 down and were competative for a while. Yeah we lost but that type of comeback means we shouldn't have been down to begin with. Of course we collapsed in the 4th quarter, no debate but that's because we screwed up, not because we didn't have it. We were our own opponent. With the sizeable exception of injuries, luck had little to do with it. Players are less apt to get "injured" on a hot team. We screwed the pooch. We blew a 19 pt lead against Cleve and I think a 19 pt lead against Denver. The point about the LAL game is that we were competative against the World Champs and should have won. A team that played at that level has no excuses. That was the only game stolen. We gave the rest away. Looking good on paper means you "might" be good Looking bad on paper usually means you're screwed

b_diddy
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Call me naive, but I truly think we'll learn from last year. Yes, I know this happens quite often and it's "there's always next year" with us. But I'm convinced that Dunleavy has swolled his ego, and will loosen the ropes on his offensive stlye, and the newcoming rookie Griffin will energize the team. We all know we had talent last year, but for whatever reason we couldn't win games. I think Randolph gone helps us. Maybe not in the short short term, but we will soon see the results.

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Call me naive, but I truly think we'll learn from last year. Yes, I know this happens quite often and it's "there's always next year" with us. But I'm convinced that Dunleavy has swolled his ego, and will loosen the ropes on his offensive stlye, and the newcoming rookie Griffin will energize the team. We all know we had talent last year, but for whatever reason we couldn't win games. I think Randolph gone helps us. Maybe not in the short short term, but we will soon see the results.
oh so after 20+ years of coaching he's gonna finally swallow....

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toohipcliptoslip
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AS far as MDSr, no matter how hard you polish, you can't make s**t shine

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I'm not trying to defend Dunleavy. In fact, I've already said he ought to dedicate himself to being GM full-time and let someone else coach.

But is it a coincidence that the healthiest year the team has had in the last 7 years was the same year they made the playoffs?

Icecoldclipper
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Call me naive, but I truly think we'll learn from last year. Yes, I know this happens quite often and it's "there's always next year" with us. But I'm convinced that Dunleavy has swolled his ego, and will loosen the ropes on his offensive stlye, and the newcoming rookie Griffin will energize the team. We all know we had talent last year, but for whatever reason we couldn't win games. I think Randolph gone helps us. Maybe not in the short short term, but we will soon see the results.
oh so after 20+ years of coaching he's gonna finally swallow....

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The first four years built up to the playoffs.

The plan was to pass the torch from Sam Cassell to Shaun Livingston, but his knee injury altered the course of the organization.

Before they could find another PG prospect to take Cassell's place, Brand tore his achillies. The team decided to wait and see if he could come back healthy and then maybe make a playoff run. He didn't, and they couldn't.

Then Brand ends up leaving. And I believe that's when the organization finally started rebuilding.

I'm not sure where you get rebuilding times 3...

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7 years 1 playoff run...about the 3rd time he's rebuilding now and also our GM ......
The first four years built up to the playoffs. The plan was to pass the torch from Sam Cassell to Shaun Livingston, but his knee injury altered the course of the organization. Before they could find another PG prospect to take Cassell's place, Brand tore his achillies. The team decided to wait and see if he could come back healthy and then maybe make a playoff run. He didn't, and they couldn't. Then Brand ends up leaving. And I believe that's when the organization finally started rebuilding. I'm not....

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journeyman
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^^^I just gave you a positive vote saying "fail" when I meant to give you a negative vote. LOL

Oh the irony..

topbuzzclip
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of course u did......the truth about the SOME of you hurts....

hey dont worry about it buddy....we are gonna get soooooo many top free agents in 2o10~!!!!

I CANT WAIT!!!!!!!!!!!\

journeyman
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We can always trade for talent. Cap flexibility is probably more important than the hope of a would-be free agent.

Just no more panic trades for overinflated players with troubled pasts.

topbuzzclip
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lol u blind blind man....

all the talent went to join talent...its like theres 5 teams that are all stars

and all the talent is a freeeeee agentttttttt in 2010 buddy....everyone is gonna be accounted for

journeyman
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Free agents defect every summer (ask the Pistons). And there will always be teams looking to dump pieces (ask the Bucks).

topbuzzclip
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teams dump but we never take em...(ask dunleavy) well we did one year... 06 season... thats cause his job was on the line..

its hard to say this but dont compare the detroit pistons organization to ours..... people wannnnt to go there...big difference

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