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Clippers Waive McNeal and Roberson

Monday, October 19, 2009 - 2:15 pm (PT)

Los Angeles Clippers today waived guards Jerel McNeal and Anthony Roberson

In two preseason games played with the Clippers, McNeal averaged 3.5 points in 4.5 minutes per game. Roberson tallied 1.3 points and 5.3 minutes in three preseason games played.

The Clippers’ training camp roster currently stands at 15 players.

Mistwell
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Both of those seemed like foregone conclusions. The real question is, how many more waivers, and who?

ClipfanSince88
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Agreed. I'm hoping there is going to be at least one more waiver and that one will be Ricky Davis. I don't mean to bad mouth the guy, but I really don't see him contributing anything to this team. Plus, I still feel like we need another back up PG.

rikdaddy
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We really need another PG. If we keep Rush, we don't have any more roster space unless we waive someone else. Ricky Davis' contract is guaranteed, I think, so cutting him means he still gets paid.

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I know that the team still owes Ricky money, but I would prefer the team buy him out to free up the roster spot rather than keep him around.

I think Skinner also seems like another likely candidate to get cut. Barring another crazy rash of injuries, I really can't see him getting any PT except in absolute garbage time.

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Yeah, we are pretty deep at the 4 spot and with Smith playing so well, I don't even think Skinner will see garbage time. I only mentioned Ricky still getting paid because as the owner and it being his money, I don't think he'd be too happy about paying a guy that essentially didn't do crap for our team last year, another year's salary just so he can not play for the team. Even if it is better in the long run.

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is it even possible to waive ricky d?

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^ No. He had a player option and exercised it. I think the only option left would be a buyout...A la Madsen.

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From Ralph Lawler's FB

Ricky has a guaranteed contract so Rush is the one on the bubble. Plan was to go with 14 but Rush has been making a pretty good case. We'll see.

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Yeah, no surprise here. I don't even think McNeal got any preseason playing time. But I think we should definitely keep Rush. He is only 28 and in the prime of his career. And we should definitely waive Ricky, Mardy, or Skinner so we can sign another PG because odds are, Telfair and Baron are going to be injured at some point in the season and then who will our Pgs be?

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we should just buy out ricky for 1.2 mil(i think he's getting 2 mil at the moment) and buy out mardy collins for another 1.2mil.

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What's up CTBers! Always on this site, my first post today. Been a fan of the team since I moved to L.A. 8 years ago.

I don't want my first post to be negative because I really feel good about this team this year and definitely respect what MD has done with the roster over the summer...That said, the signing of Skinner was a complete waste of a roster spot. We go 5 deep already in the frontcourt with QUALITY bigs. 3 of which are young and resilient to injury. All 5 of those guys are high level players.

When you have Baron as your starter and everything that happened last year and you have an underachiever (so far in his career) in Bassy backing him up, the PG position is so much more important to address than signing an energy guy, 6th string big, who will not even suit up until somebody gets hurt. If the frontcourt was struck with injuries again this season and another big was needed, I find it hard to believe we couldn't find a guy with similar skillsets to Skinner in the D League. The guy does us a favor and opts out and then we sign him 3 months later? Makes no sense to me.

We need a PG, EG cannot be relied upon to handle this. First because it's not natural for him, second because he is our best player and we need guys setting him up for shots, not vice versa.

If not for the Skinner signing we could keep Rush (who I think could help us this year from time to time) and Still have an open spot for a PG down the road, either using the Trade Exception or grabbing a guy from the D-Laeague.

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Welcome, TheDude!

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Repped High Quality Post

Thanks CJ!..but where do you get off posting a picture of me online? CTB is not Nam, there are rules.

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Nice!

By the way, you've been repped! Very Happy

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If Rush can finish the preseason strong, I think he deserves a spot. I'd much rather see him overtake Bricky as backup SG.

ClipfanSince88
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Its too bad that Livingston wasn't more reasonable in his post-injury negotiations with the Clippers. I always liked him as a player and, based on what I saw from him with OKC last season, he would be a good guy to have around as a reserve PG. Oh, well.

Anyway, MD Sr. has done a good enough job putting this current roster together that I'm going to give him the benefit of the doubt as to who the opening night squad will be. Still, my preference would be to see another, quality back-up PG on the team.

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I hope we find a way to keep Rush and get rid of #31.

btw McNeal & Roberson never impressed me.

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I always try and sympathize with the training camp invites. Roberson was... underwhelming. I wish him luck wherever he ends up.

Like Rikdaddy said earlier, it's doubtful that Sterling would pay the rest of Ricky Davis' money to just go away. He stinks it up on the court, but he's not a cancer by any means. It even sorta makes sense to at least give him some real games to prove himself, since he'll be getting paid either way. Personally, I'd cut him. But it's easy to say that when I'm not the one paying his salary.

Kareem Rush has been pretty good. I had my doubts about him, but he's been lighting it up. But I'm also not ready to declare him better than Ricky after a hand full of preseason minutes..

Also, welcome TheDude, you made quite the entrance.

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Roberson looked pretty below average as a pg from what I saw in the laker game, and mcneal didn't really have a position so it was a matter of time before they got cut. I think Rush will get cut too to keep that last roster spot open for an emergency signing if one position gets thin due to injury...most likely the pg position.

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if something does happen to either Davis or Telfair, couldn't Gordon just slide down to PG. He wants to play some point this year and it would give us a bigger SG.

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phaded21, I think the general consensus about ej is that he's not ready to play at the point. he's not good at running the complex plays, and is better on the wings where he can score more effectively. as he is just a machine at scoring and guarding talented 2s, i think we should let that just be his role.

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Let's trade Skinner, Ricky and maybe a first or second round pick to the Cavs for Booby Gibson. We get another point guard, and they get more depth because they might be able to revive Ricky's game and Skinner is still a solid low post defender, its just we need the roster spot.

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To CJ and Journeyman, thanks for rolling out the welcome mat for me (it really ties the room together)

I was on Ralph's facebook the other day talking about this same topic. I expressed that it would be nice to be able to sign Rush but the fact that Skinner was resigned used up that potential spot...He said that if we sign Rush now, that his contract would not be guaranteed until January. Hard for me to doubt Ralph's infinite wisdom...does anybody know if this is true?

If that is the case, I say use the 15th spot and sign Kareem Rush. The guy is a vet and he will get hot every now and then. He won one preseason game for us already and so far, has proven to be a little better than RickyD. As much as I think we need a PG, another 6'6" wing takes pressure off Ricky/Mardy to play a lot of minutes. EG can't and shouldn't play 48 minutes. A guy like Rush who can hit the 3, doesn't whine about PT, and is not a liability on D could be a positive factor for this team filling in for 8-10 minutes a game. (Also remember, a humbled man is a motivated man, he's in the prime of his career and is an inch from being out of the league) I think the guy comes out and plays well this season for us if given the opportunity.

....And if Baron or Bassy go down for an extended period, we could cut him at little cost (according to Ralph) to make room for a PG.

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For what its worth, you've got me convinced. Plus, with opening day only a week away, it seems a little late to bring someone else in. For now, the team should go with guys that were in camp and see how things turn out. If our lack of point guard depth is clearly causing problems, the team can always try and make a move later.

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ClipfanSince88 wrote:
TheDude wrote:
To CJ and Journeyman, thanks for rolling out the welcome mat for me (it really ties the room together)

I was on Ralph's facebook the other day talking about this same topic. I expressed that it would be nice to be able to sign Rush but the fact that Skinner was resigned used up that potential spot...He said that if we sign Rush now, that his contract would not be guaranteed until January. Hard for me to doubt Ralph's infinite wisdom...does anybody know if this is true?

If that is the case, I say use the 15th spot and sign Kareem Rush. The guy is a vet and he will get hot every now and then. He won one preseason game for us already and so far, has proven to be a little better than RickyD. As much as I think we need a PG, another 6'6" wing takes pressure off Ricky/Mardy to play a lot of minutes. EG can't and shouldn't play 48 minutes. A guy like Rush who can hit the 3, doesn't whine about PT, and is not a liability on D could be a positive factor for this team filling in for 8-10 minutes a game. (Also remember, a humbled man is a motivated man, he's in the prime of his career and is an inch from being out of the league) I think the guy comes out and plays well this season for us if given the opportunity.

....And if Baron or Bassy go down for an extended period, we could cut him at little cost (according to Ralph) to make room for a PG.

For what its worth, you've got me convinced. Plus, with opening day only a week away, it seems a little late to bring someone else in. For now, the team should go with guys that were in camp and see how things turn out. If our lack of point guard depth is clearly causing problems, the team can always try and make a move later.

Looks like MD agreed too. Cut/Paste from this morning LA Times.

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Clipper update: Lucky Number 15 (roster spot)

October 20, 2009 | 7:22 pm

And the last Clippers' roster spot goes to ... Kareem Rush.

Rush, who came to camp as a free agent, said on Tuesday before the exhibition against Maccabi Tel Aviv that Clippers Coach Mike Dunleavy told him he would be sticking around.

Clipperslogo The Clippers have been deciding whether to carry 14 or 15 players on the roster.

"I've put myself in position to make this team," Rush said. "I think I've done a great job of establishing myself and showing what I'm capable of doing. It's up to the front office.

"Coach [Dunleavy] told me I was going to start the season with the team. I'm happy with what I've done this preseason and hope I can continue to play well and be a guy who can contribute."

The Clippers like the depth Rush gives them on the perimeter and his ability to hit the open shot.

"It's just what I do. I've been a shooter all my career," he said. "My job is to come down here and knock down open shots. It's my job to take 'em and make 'em. I've been shooting the ball pretty well. All due to the hard work I've been putting in this summer."

Naturally, Rush, the former Laker, was asked for his opinion on Blake Griffin's mammoth dunk on Sunday against the Lakers in the fourth quarter. .

"It was amazing," Rush said. "He's a YouTube fanatic. I told him I need 10% of all royalties from the posters he's gonna sell. Blake's a great talent. He's going to be a great player in this league."

Did he get the 10% in writing?

"I think it's just a gentleman's handshake deal, for 10%," Rush said, laughing.

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SamMays
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Of Skinner, Ricky and Rush, none are so highly paid, or likely to be very valuable, so that we can't move one out in favor of a PG at some point. I would have prefered we had Sessions to any of those three, but so be it. PG is the only area of weakness in terms of depth. We'll see what happens, but I would bet a PG will be added at some point this season.

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I believe you are talking about Daniel Gibson. Gibson is more of a shooter and is really not a point guard.

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You'd consider giving up a 1st ground pick for Booby Gibson? Really?

ClipfanSince88
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I agree, but lets hope its done only as a means of improving the team and not out of absolute necessity, as has happened in the last couple seasons. If we're forced to re-sing Jason Hart in the middle of the season, it will not be a good sign.

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SamMays wrote:
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Let's trade Skinner, Ricky and maybe a first or second round pick to the Cavs for Booby Gibson. We get another point guard, and they get more depth because they might be able to revive Ricky's game and Skinner is still a solid low post defender, its just we need the roster spot.

You'd consider giving up a 1st ground pick for Booby Gibson? Really?

Boobie is all hype.

NEXT!

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He can shoot the ball and was the starting point guard for the Cavs when they went to the finals. Why not?

ToneE
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Doron Perkins from maccabi?anyone?lol

dude finished with a triple double

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You mean that year the Cavs got swept right? lol roll

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Why are people calling him Booby Gibson out of interest?

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If it's possible, we should waive Bricky. Is M. Taylor still with memphis?

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Taylor was just waived by Memphis today.

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illastrate wrote:
Clippernatic_528 wrote:
If it's possible, we should waive Bricky. Is M. Taylor still with memphis?

Taylor was just waived by Memphis today.

pick him up!

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should drop skinner and add ime udoka

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