Chris Broussard: Clips Interested in Stephen Jackson

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Please tell me this is not true

http://espn.go.com/blog/TrueHoop/post/_/id/10099/10099

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^ Ditto!

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Yeah I saw that earlier. It hopefully is a rumor only. I wont lie, SJax is a tough player, and it would be nice having extra toughness in our lineup.

But then I checked his salary and thought of his attitude problems, and no way do I want this guy on our team. It would do 2 bad things depending on who we traded for him:

  1. Probably take some 2010 capspace

  2. Put a guy with attitude that we dont need around our younger guys who dont need a player like Jackson around.

Hopefully Dun lets this team play together before doing anything big.

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Make it 4 of us who are against it. Jackson is way overpaid, especially considering the headaches he brings. No thanks.

And, if the Warriors really think Jackson is worth Manu Ginobili, its scary to think what they might ask from the Clippers in a trade. Blake Griffin maybe?

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Jackson would bring the sickest fire power off the bench, but the fact that him and baron are the same players, and baron doesn't get along with dun, then neither will jackson.

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We already have one knucklehead in Baron (two with Ricky)... We don't need another headache player who will or will not bring it depending on his mood.

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I don't think any one of us really wants Jacko on the team. Please, let's just move on...

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Jax' contract is ridiculous. Matter of fact, him and Maggs are two 30-year olds who are still owed 75M. Yikes.

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Jackson is a good player...real good. He could help us cuz Al and Ras aren't doing anything,but will see.But his contract is horrible thats the problem,and he has to be happy and he's out of control for me it's a no deal only if it's a smart deal and he knows his role

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Wasn't jacko the one who started the davis "rumor mill" last season saying that baron said he wish he never left etc etc. I thought since that went down baron called him crazy and they didn't have the same friendship they used to? seems like a chemistry disaster...

not really a point to my post just thinking out loud Mr. Green

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I like jax's game but his attitude problems are way too much. We already have baron to worry about. Although having his buddy come here might motivate both of them.

Too much of a risk. Lets not forget also that we still have that 3 mile trade exception also. I hope this is just a rumor. We don't need anymore potential headaches.

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Lets just say no to jax. I wouldn't call him over paid, but i do think he is not worth messing with the 2010 cap space. also he freaked out about kobe last week causing him to say he is just as good. i think he is delusional wouldn't want that on the team.

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It's probably an offer of something like Jackson and Ellis for Thornton and Baron Davis and some trade exception. Which should be a "no".

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The warriors were dumb enough to give jax, maggette, and turiaf contracts. Let them keep their problems

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I would do a trade like this only if it were something like this: baron Davis, telfair, Thornton, and minnys first round pick for jax, steph curry, and Anthony Randolph. Lol they get rid of jax and get back there star pupil in Davis. We give em young talent which are Al, bassy, and a very low numbered first round pick. Yeah they loose a little bit on this, but watever LOL

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I would actually love that trade. Getting randolph and curry!

The warriors get their pg back and a young stud with minnys pick. I bet if baron goes back to gs it wouldn't surprise me if he average 20 and 8 like his gs days. Haha

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if it was sjax for a one year rental, id be ecstatic.

but 7-10 mil to 2013, hellllll no.

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His contract is a deal breaker in itself unless u are getting something back like one of their young players.

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Stack Jack = Ron Artest (mentally)

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LOL!

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I say Kaman for Randolph and Jackson.

WHy do people freak out about Stephen Jackson? We need all the damn help we can get. You act like we don't and haven't already over the course of our franchise had cancers on the team. Jackson can get us 20 points 5 boards 4 assists and light it up from 3pt land, and it would move Al to the bench if we didn't trade him.

Then again I'd try to work a 3-team deal where Jackson goes to Cleveland and we get Randolph. I don't care if that creates a bigger log jam at the PF/C position, move Kaman the hell out of dodge and Randolph/Griffin can be out PF/C combo for the next 12 years and we will dominate, Jordan can be our 6th man and get us 13 boards and 3 blocks in 10 minutes.

Stephen Curry is god awful for this team, you kidding me? Why even ask for him in a trade deal unless it involves trading him to Chicago for Derrick Rose.

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Really? I take it you haven't watched a game this season. Kaman has been by far the most versatile player on this team. Yeah, I'd do this in a New York minute...not.

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http://espn.go.com/blog/truehoop/post/_ ... en-jackson

Yet I was also told in strong terms that neither San Antonio nor the Los Angeles Clippers are on that list. And we covered last week how Dallas, with Shawn Marion and Josh Howard already on the roster, has been telling the Warriors that they’re not interested, even though Jackson’s publicly stated dream destinations are Cleveland, New York or one of the three Texas teams.

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Wow! We've lost two games, both at the foul line. There is nothing wrong with this team other than we don't know how to win games late. That will take time if the players continue to believe. Not sure where you're coming from on Kaman. He's been our best player and the best center in the league these last few games.

And just because we've had cancers before, we shouldn't be wary of adding one again? Come on. We've sucked. We need to turn a corner and have started to do that.

Continue to watch Memphis. You'll see what cancer is and what it can do to a team. They have ZBo now. I watched part of their game. They got crushed by a marginal Pistons team AT HOME. They didn't pass to each other. Just jacked up shots whenever they had the chance, enroute to 26 for 72 shooting. Perhaps we can bring ZBo back. He puts up numbers.

There are winners, losers and followers in this league. Jackson is a loser, another head case who does more harm than good in the long run despite his numbers. How good is he making Golden State these days?

Just say no to the knuckleheads that have been around, Jackson, ZBo, Iverson, Ricky, Tinsley, Marbury, Francis, Nate Robinson... I'll put Baron in that catagory, but it's too late now. We've got him... At least he seems to be playing harder now, until his next meltdown.

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I'd do this in a heartbeat, even if it meant taking on Jax contract, but GSW would never do this. A BG/AR combo would be too sick.

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did everyone forget what the warriors did just a few years ago? with baron and stephen jackson on the same team, both of their game's will improve mightily. With one of the deepest teams in the league, WHO CARES ABOUT HIS CONTRACT? We have enough talent to make some noise THIS YEAR.

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The only guy I want from the Warriors is Anthony Morrow. Why? He's playing for peanuts, and he has more upside than anybody that they have got. Also, SJax only wanted to go where he can get a ring. He is not going to be happy going from one team to another and still no chance to win a ring. He will still be unhappy. So go get Anthony.

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I agree Morrow is intriguing. But I wonder if I am biased since he really lit us up in the pre-season.

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He lit up the Suns for like 38 or something a couple of nights before he lit us up. His coach says he is the best shooter on his team of shooters. I like him.

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Anthony Morrow is awesome, but there's no way GS is going to trade him because he costs very little and is production is off the charts. As for Stephen Jackson- it would be a very risky move. He might not like Dunleavy's system and it'd be a nightmare. Plus as you guys said his contract stinks.

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Uhhh.. .Stephen Jackson was teh one who ran into the stands at Auburn Hills. We dont need a player with his baggage.

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WHy do people freak out about Stephen Jackson? We need all the damn help we can get. You act like we don't and haven't already over the course of our franchise had cancers on the team. Jackson can get us 20 points 5 boards 4 assists and light it up from 3pt land, and it would move Al to the bench if we didn't trade him.

Then again I'd try to work a 3-team deal where Jackson goes to Cleveland and we get Randolph. I don't care if that creates a bigger log jam at the PF/C position, move Kaman the hell out of dodge and Randolph/Griffin can be out PF/C combo for the next 12 years and we will dominate, Jordan can be our 6th man and get us 13 boards and 3 blocks in 10 minutes.

Stephen Curry is god awful for this team, you kidding me? Why even ask for him in a trade deal unless it involves trading him to Chicago for Derrick Rose.

Wow! We've lost two games, both at the foul line. There is nothing wrong with this team other than we don't know how to win games late. That will take time if the players continue to believe. Not sure where you're coming from on Kaman. He's been our best player and the best center in the league these last few games.

And just because we've had cancers before, we shouldn't be wary of adding one again? Come on. We've sucked. We need to turn a corner and have started to do that.

Continue to watch Memphis. You'll see what cancer is and what it can do to a team. They have ZBo now. I watched part of their game. They got crushed by a marginal Pistons team AT HOME. They didn't pass to each other. Just jacked up shots whenever they had the chance, enroute to 26 for 72 shooting. Perhaps we can bring ZBo back. He puts up numbers.

There are winners, losers and followers in this league. Jackson is a loser, another head case who does more harm than good in the long run despite his numbers. How good is he making Golden State these days?

Just say no to the knuckleheads that have been around, Jackson, ZBo, Iverson, Ricky, Tinsley, Marbury, Francis, Nate Robinson... I'll put Baron in that catagory, but it's too late now. We've got him... At least he seems to be playing harder now, until his next meltdown.

I know exactly what Kaman has and hasn't done for us this year and in the past. But you have to face facts, how many times a year does Kaman just start playing like a bonehead and making comments like one? I love the guy and think he could be a great Center for this team, however his attitude and seemingly endless nagging injuries make me worry every single time we take the court.

Also you have to realize just what the hell we are going to do with Deandre Jordan? The guy may never be an offensive juggernaut but he shoots at a high %, mainly dunks but w/e. He can rebound great and block great, he still has to work on his game but when he's near full development what do we do then? Allow a guy that'll be 23-25 at that time who could be a top flight Center in the league rot on the bench? Camby is gone after this year, and Kaman is our best trade asset. It's time to start seriously thinking if he has problems this year or causes them, to just say goodbye to this guy and let him move on elsewhere.

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another high risk move that dosent need to be done. look at the positives and the negatives

positives: -tough defender, shoots the three well, has chemistry with baron, good passer, all around good player. (i actually think he's very underrated.)

negatives: bad contract, turns the ball over alot, technicals up the beezy, could start drama right when he steps foot on clipperland.

so pretty much, he's a really good player, underrated. but he could just mess up the chemistry we have right now. our starting line would be crazyyy though. and he could be the guy that guards lebron, paul pierce, kobe (ok not kobe haha). his salary is a deal breaker and if he pushed AL to he bench, how would AL take it? it makes our team look so good on paper though. but the chances of ruining the chemistry is high. our team is good as is.

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If Camby is gone after this year, he should be the one we move. Believe me, over the next two years we'll find out how good DJ will become. He's not a secret and he'll get his minutes. He didn't play against the Suns because they're a small, quick team and because--get this, Kaman and Camby were playing so well.

Kaman's salary, plus the fact he's been injured makes him a hard guy to trade for value. Now, at the end of the season, we need to reevaluate who we're bringing back. If Kaman continues as he has been, his trade value will be higher. If DJ has been very productive on the floor, then perhaps trading Kaman would be a good idea. To do so now, if we could find a taker, would not be a good idea. This is our team for this year, with the possible addition of a much needed 3rd PG. We need to accept it, get behind these guys and see where they take us. If we're not in the hunt for a playoff situation, Camby should be moved at the trade deadline... That's about all we're likely to do and all we should do...

The rest of the team can be evaluated in the summer. Personally, I hope Baron has a great year, so we can move him out of here this summer. Trade him while he has value, because I don't think he'll be a reliable PG over the term of his contract, either physically or mentally.

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The Clippers would be crazy not to do this in a heartbeat. It would be bye bye AL and a big, this team would run much better, why isn't this done yet? Stack Jack really doesn't have an attitude problem any player involved in the fight at Auburn Hills will have to deal with that for the rest of their career. Him asking for a trade was blown out of context, it's kind of a double standard cuz kobe did the same thing and didn't get fined at all.

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Also you have to realize just what the hell we are going to do with Deandre Jordan? The guy may never be an offensive juggernaut but he shoots at a high %, mainly dunks but w/e. He can rebound great and block great, he still has to work on his game but when he's near full development what do we do then? Allow a guy that'll be 23-25 at that time who could be a top flight Center in the league rot on the bench? Camby is gone after this year, and Kaman is our best trade asset

If Camby is gone after this year, he should be the one we move. Believe me, over the next two years we'll find out how good DJ will become. He's not a secret and he'll get his minutes. He didn't play against the Suns because they're a small, quick team and because--get this, Kaman and Camby were playing so well.

Kaman's salary, plus the fact he's been injured makes him a hard guy to trade for value. Now, at the end of the season, we need to reevaluate who we're bringing back. If Kaman continues as he has been, his trade value will be higher. If DJ has been very productive on the floor, then perhaps trading Kaman would be a good idea. To do so now, if we could find a taker, would not be a good idea. This is our team for this year, with the possible addition of a much needed 3rd PG. We need to accept it, get behind these guys and see where they take us. If we're not in the hunt for a playoff situation, Camby should be moved at the trade deadline... That's about all we're likely to do and all we should do...

The rest of the team can be evaluated in the summer. Personally, I hope Baron has a great year, so we can move him out of here this summer. Trade him while he has value, because I don't think he'll be a reliable PG over the term of his contract, either physically or mentally.

If we cant win with this mix of vets and youngsters we have to evaluate our plan and just go with a straight overhaul and youth movement. Move Baron, camby and go with young talent and build around Gordon and Griffin. I'd keep Kaman around given his contract and DJ not being ready.

Thornton is fine since he is still under a rookie contract but I wont sign this guy at the MLE at all. I really would like to see how this current talent and group would be under a coach like a jerry sloan or Rick adelman. I guess we will never see that.

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i know the salaries dont match, but Al Thornton for JAckson

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Chris Boussard made a typo. He meant to write "Clips Interested in Destructive Lulz"

Thankfully, this rumor has already been put to rest, so it doesn't matter anyway..

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