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    Post subject: Clippers vs. Suns 10/28/09 Official Game Thread  PostPosted: Oct 28, 2009 - 07:23 PM PST
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    Suns-Clippers Preview

    After missing the playoffs for the first time in five seasons, the Phoenix Suns are prepared to run their way back to the postseason in 2009-10.

    The determined Suns look to open the season Wednesday night with a fifth straight victory over the visiting Los Angeles Clippers, who are trying to get by without injured No. 1 overall draft pick Blake Griffin.

    Poised to bounce back after a first-round playoff exit the previous season, Phoenix took a step back in 2008-09. New coach Terry Porter, who tried to transform the fast-paced Suns into more of a halfcourt, defensive-minded team, was fired with the Suns 28-23 and averaging 104.4 points per game at the All-Star break.

    Assistant coach Alvin Gentry took over and sped up the tempo as Phoenix went 18-13 while averaging 117.4 down the stretch. The Suns, though, were already in a hole and then hit hard by a season-ending eye injury to star forward Amare Stoudemire (21.4 ppg, 8.1 rpg) in February. Despite finishing 46-36, they missed the playoffs for the first time since 2004.

    "We were torn between two styles,'' said veteran guard Steve Nash, who averaged 15.7 points and 9.7 assists - his lowest for both in four seasons. "That made it difficult for us to excel at either one.''

    With Shaquille O'Neal now in Cleveland and Gentry expecting his team to run from the start, the 35-year-old Nash and Stoudemire are hoping to lead Phoenix back to the playoffs.

    "The Nash and Stoudemire era is not over yet,'' Stoudemire said. "We're still here. We're still improving, we're still getting better as a unit and we're bringing the Phoenix Suns team with us.''

    While the franchise believes the aging Nash can continue to run the offense at an elite level, Stoudemire could be in for a big season before he's expected to opt out of the final year of his contract to seek a maximum deal. The Suns might not be willing to pay, and could decide to trade him during the season if the team is struggling.

    "It's mainly about improving and winning,'' said Stoudemire, who's averaging 28.8 points and 9.4 boards in his last eight games against Los Angeles. "If we win and if we improve, then nothing should change.''

    Veterans Jason Richardson (16.8 ppg) and Grant Hill (12.0, 4.9 rpg) - who played all 82 games last season - could provide solid support for Stoudemire and Nash.

    A favorably scheduled first week could also help the Suns start strong. After Los Angeles, Phoenix hosts Golden State and Minnesota - teams with a combined 53 wins last season.

    The Suns averaged 124.3 points in sweeping the four-game set from the Clippers last season. Phoenix scored 140 and 142 points, respectively, in its last two games versus Los Angeles.

    Nash is averaging 16.9 points and 12.8 assists in his last eight road games against the Clippers, who went 19-63 last season and opened with a 99-92 loss to the defending NBA champion Lakers on Tuesday.

    Eric Gordon scored 21 points and Chris Kaman added 18 with 16 boards for Los Angeles, which will be without Griffin for up to six weeks due to a stress fracture suffered in the team's final preseason game.

    "He could play on it, but it won't get better,'' said Clippers coach Mike Dunleavy of Griffin, who averaged 22.7 points with an NCAA-best 14.4 rebounds last season for Oklahoma. "Once that became apparent, there was no question: Let's shut it down. Him playing at a lesser level isn't going to do us much good.''

    Even without Griffin, the Clippers hung with the Lakers despite trailing by 10 points after one quarter and committing 20 turnovers.

    "We've got a good, deep team and we'll win a bunch of ballgames while Blake is out,'' said guard Baron Davis, who averaged 14.9 points during a disappointing first season with Clippers and was held to two on 1-of-10 shooting Tuesday.

    Gordon averaged 16.1 points as a rookie and 20.5 against Phoenix last season.

    http://www.nba.com/games/20091028/PHXLAC/preview.html
     
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    Post subject: RE: Clippers vs. Suns 10/28/09 Official Game Thread  PostPosted: Oct 28, 2009 - 07:28 PM PST
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    Isn't this game in LA? The article says the Suns face the "visiting" Clippers. Anyway, I'm looking forward to a better performance tonight. We have huge edge inside in this game and should exploit it. Kaman and Smith and possibly even Jordan should all have big nights.
     
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    Post subject: RE: Clippers vs. Suns 10/28/09 Official Game Thread  PostPosted: Oct 28, 2009 - 07:37 PM PST
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    Guys kaman just added a whole new dimension to his game with that beautiful faceup jumper. Now he has much more options offensively, and since he can hit the jumper, he spaces the floor as well. If we get/ stay close to 0.500 kaman will make all star game. So yeah, I say we win by 7

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    Post subject: RE: Clippers vs. Suns 10/28/09 Official Game Thread  PostPosted: Oct 28, 2009 - 07:45 PM PST
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    all we need to do is win 1 of the first 4 and I will be happy. This game seems to be the one we can handle.

    Dear Baron Davis,

    Please show up.

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    Post subject: RE: Clippers vs. Suns 10/28/09 Official Game Thread  PostPosted: Oct 28, 2009 - 07:48 PM PST
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    ^ This


    Should be a easy must win!
     
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    I would actually prefer baron to sit out and rest up. Dude is awful and useless when he has to play on a gimpy leg. I rather play bassy at 48 minutes.

    Plus everyone here is crucifying baron davis because he is playing bad injured. He plays injured and sucks. Doesn't play and he is considered dogging it. Damned if you do and damned if don't.

    I expect a win tonight. Kaman should own channing fry and should easily have a game like he had yesterday. Sual and thornton need better performances.

    Our starting lineup should be

    Kaman
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    Sual
    Gordon
    Telfair


    Last edited by elton_sucks42 on Oct 28, 2009 - 09:28 PM PST; edited 2 times in total
     
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    Post subject: RE: Clippers vs. Suns 10/28/09 Official Game Thread  PostPosted: Oct 28, 2009 - 08:06 PM PST
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    ^perfect
     
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    elton_sucks42 wrote:
    I would actually prefer baron to sit up and rest up. Dude is awful and useless when he has to play on a gimpy leg. I rather play bassy at 48 minutes.

    Plus everyone here is crucifying baron davis because he is playing bad injured. He plays injured and sucks. Doesn't play and he is considered dogging it. Damned if you and damned if don't.

    I expect a win tonight. Kaman should own channing fry and should easily have a game like he had yesterday. Sual and thornton need better performances.

    Our starting lineup should be

    Kaman
    Rhino
    Sual
    Gordon
    Telfair

    well kobe had 33 with a foot injury yesterday.

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    Yaroslavs#1Fan wrote:
    elton_sucks42 wrote:
    I would actually prefer baron to sit up and rest up. Dude is awful and useless when he has to play on a gimpy leg. I rather play bassy at 48 minutes.

    Plus everyone here is crucifying baron davis because he is playing bad injured. He plays injured and sucks. Doesn't play and he is considered dogging it. Damned if you and damned if don't.

    I expect a win tonight. Kaman should own channing fry and should easily have a game like he had yesterday. Sual and thornton need better performances.

    Our starting lineup should be

    Kaman
    Rhino
    Sual
    Gordon
    Telfair

    well kobe had 33 with a foot injury yesterday.


    Baron ain't Kobe. As much as I don't like him, Kobe is probably one of the best, if not the best, in the game today with playing through injuries. I guess some players can do it effectively and others can't. Baron, it appears, falls into the second category.
     
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    Comparing kobe to baron is like comparing khloe kardashian to kim kardashian.
     
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    ^ HAhHA That made my night!
     
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    ralph and mike are going to be joined by blake griffin in the second quarter. boy im really interested on what he has to say.
     
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    What's our starting lineup looking like?
     
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    ohMEohMy! wrote:
    What's our starting lineup looking like?


    for now its still the same line up as last night for the suns its nash, j rich, grant hill, amare, and frye. i expect kaman to dominate frye.
     
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    clippersforlife100 wrote:
    ohMEohMy! wrote:
    What's our starting lineup looking like?


    for now its still the same line up as last night for the suns its nash, j rich, grant hill, amare, and frye. i expect kaman to dominate frye.


    All our bigs should do well tonight, provided that we control the temp and don't let game get too fast.
     
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    Post subject: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Clippers vs. Suns 10/28/09 Official Game  PostPosted: Oct 28, 2009 - 10:22 PM PST
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    i also expect this game to be high scoring since both teams want to run or atleast the suns...
     
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    It would have been awesome to see Blake vs Amare ..... oh well
     
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    anybody got a radio stream i'm watching on league pass but it's the Sun's home tv station. This suck mis Ralph and Mike. Tried the kfwb site but when i click the L.A. station it's just talk radio....
     
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    we are on fire!
     
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    was good to hear that BD was the first guy at the gym today working on his shot, and attending the optional shoot around. Hope to see it translate tonight. He looks more interested than he did last night.
     
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    there is no reason we should lose this game with the number of bigs we have this should be a W.
     
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    No dunleavy please don't match up use our Bigs!!!
     
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    Can someone pm me a link to watch the game streaming? THANKS!!
     
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    Dunleavy is a pure F*ckin moron why would you try and match the suns when we had the damn lead when we had two legit bigs out there.
     
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    losing it again. We should be killing them.

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    This is terrible the teams focus and energy is dead.
     
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    Tied up but we should be playing much better.

    Freakin Hill has 7 boards....that shouldn't happen.

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    nice game from Marcus
     
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    We need someone to step in at SF.
     
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    This game shouldn't be close please this team needs to pick-up the energy.
     
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    You know what I'm starting to think?

    what a good preseason Ricky had in 08 and terrible season

    Rasual was great in preseason and in these first 2 games he looks lost
     
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    Yeah Butler hasn't looked anything like he did a week ago. Both SF's need to pick up their play. Baron 1-4. He'll always get his assist numbers but it the point production that's killing us. Can't even reach double digit points.

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    We need baron to step it up just a little offensively. Ej and our sf's need to wake up.

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    Baron useless when he can't attack the basket. How can anyone shoot that poorly.

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    What the hell is wrong with Gordon. Can't his a FT to save his life.

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    Nice dunk Kaman
     
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    nice play by the clips...way to scrap for the ball!
     
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    Yeah BD Hustle points

    Yeah EG's free throws are annoying

    Kaman is really impressing clipper fans
     
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    clipps04 wrote:
    Baron useless when he can't attack the basket. How can anyone shoot that poorly.


    Hes been attacking and we are doing pretty good. Good things happen when he tries to go towards the basket. I rather have baron go penetrate and dish than having 1 and done 3's.
     
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    If we would just make our free throws we would be up by 12 points.
     
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    elton_sucks42 wrote:
    If we would just make our free throws we would be up by 12 points.
    If Eric would make his FT's. 3-7....ouch. Very unlike him.

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    Anyone but EG can shoot it lol
     
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    So Chris Kaman and Marcus having great games so far. BD with 9 assist already and 4 steals.
     
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    Baron is making some very beautiful passes. His passing is back to, if not better, than his good old self. But for some reason the guy just cannot seem to get the ball in the hoop.

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    Our silent assasin with 12 points
     
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    Our free throw shooting is awful.
     
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    Go all out in the fourth. Dunleavy played the starters hard in the 3rd so the bench will have to step up to start.
     
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    Al keeps trying to post op. This time he falls in the entry pass. Doesnt get back on his man and dudley hits a three.
     
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    There you go Kaman!
     
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    Nice fast break and Al with the finish.
     
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