Blowing The Whistle - Evidence The Refs Have Been Cheating

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Mistwell
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To celebrate my ability (finally) to post URLs in messages, I thought I would bring this disgusting tidbit on evidence that the refs have been cheating, and in a way that probably harmed the Clippers many times. It's http://deadspin.com/5392067/excerpts-from-the-book-the-nba-doesnt-want -you-to-read Wow. If even a small part of this is true, it is devastating to the NBA. And, it confirms what I think most of us assumed - the refs routinely protect Kobe, and other super-stars. And they punish players who defend well against a super-star. And it seems they promote teams that the NBA wants promoted. Which probably harmed the Clippers in the past. Sometimes....

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cliptastic
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That truly is disgusting if in fact any of it is true. I know very little about any of this so I cannot really give an opinion but I really do hope most of this stuff is made up. I'm sure some little things are true like refs who don't like certain players will not give calls to those players but league-sent memos telling refs to extend playoff series and all of that? I don't know if I can believe that....I sincerely hope the NBA doesn't turn into WWE

clipps04
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Exactly why we shouldn't of felt so compelled to make a deal with these f**kers. Replacement refs were a clean slate for the game. Notice how only the stars were complaining about the replacements. No wonder, no more star treatment. Granted the replacements weren't great but they were grateful for the opportunity. Not these f**ks. Obviously they're drunk with power.

Stern should be ashamed (of course he's not). Something needs to be done about this. Even after the scandal, officiating hasn't become any better.

BoomRizzle
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I read all these excerpts earlier this morning and my mind was blown by every single one.

If these stories are indeed false, then a book publishing company should jump to offer Tim Donaghy a book series deal cause he's an amazing fiction writer.

Mistwell
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The thing is, he is in jail for betting on games using insider information. WHAT insider information would it be other than just what he is saying it would be? It's pretty well provable - he is talking about the events surrounding the very games he bet on based on those events!

Some of this has got to be true. It explains better than anything else why he was so confidently betting against the spread on so many games where certain refs were working that night.

And the "memos" just ring true - how they don't come out and say "we want this team to win" but instead highlight something that would tend to send that message without spelling it out. But if you track the memos long enough, like for an entire season, or even just the last week of games ans the playoffs, the pattern because obvious and pretty certain.

FightOnRon
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Afte being on this planet for 55 trips around the sun, nothing suprises me. Infuriates me yes,,suprises me no. Last nights game to me was a prime example. Maybe my beer googles were on but seemed to me young Eric got pasted twice within that last 4 second period yet we walk away with a loss rather then free throws that would have tied or won the game. I think the refs an the NBA in general hate Sterling and our team pays for it.

I am a Dodger STH too. Playing the Phillies, the umps sure had a different stike zone for us as they did for them.

I think more often then not, media and officiating personalities help dictate a lot of the outcome of sports and you have to have a team that is stong enough to play above the crap. I think our Clips will get there.

rick0314
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i can care less about the bad calls, we didnt finish that is why we lost, not because of the refs. making those free throws were critical, every missed free throw gave the suns the confidence to think they can catch up, and they did. Bad or good calls, if we are good enough we will win

BoomRizzle
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As i said in the game thread, no ref is making that call at the end of the game. It's not just against our team, it's in any situation across the board. Not kobe, not lebron, not wade... no one gets those bail out cend of game calls to shoot freethrows to win a game. And you definitely wouldn't be sitting here saying that if we were up by 2 and steve nash looked as blatantly obvious trying to draw contact as EG did and the ref calls a foul and sends nash to the line for 3 automatic free throws and they beat us. You would be in here saying how bad the ref was for bailing him out!

NUMB3RFIFTY
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This is shocking and disgusting. The game i love so much has been rigged several times? that's hard to stomach.

However i will say, that all this does for me, is connect dots.

Now a lot of questions are answered as to why certain teams lost certain games.

But how will the NBA respond to this?

Will they deny it and let these "memo"s keep coming?

Or take it to heart and quietly clean up their act?

I don't care so much about past games; i want to know that it won't happen anymore.

Cliptonyte
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I've thought this stuff for years. There is no doubting that the NBA refs play favorites, and they will also call something even if they don't see it. How many times do you see someone yell out and jump forward at the same time because they are out of position for a rebound, and the ref blows the whistle to call a foul for pushing off. I saw it called against Craig Smith the other night, when Odom did it.

I remember years ago, Karl Malone elbowed Danny Manning in the face, and they called Manning for the foul.

NBA refs are garbage, and they always have been. I still love the game though. It's just something that I have half way accepted...

clipshow
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BoomRizzle wrote:
FightOnRon wrote:
Maybe my beer googles were on but seemed to me young Eric got pasted twice within that last 4 second period yet we walk away with a loss rather then free throws that would have tied or won the game. I think the refs an the NBA in general hate Sterling and our team pays for it.

As i said in the game thread, no ref is making that call at the end of the game. It's not just against our team, it's in any situation across the board. Not kobe, not lebron, not wade... no one gets those bail out cend of game calls to shoot freethrows to win a game. And you definitely wouldn't be sitting here saying that if we were up by 2 and steve nash looked as blatantly obvious trying to draw contact as EG did and the ref calls a foul and sends nash to the line for 3 automatic free throws and they beat us. You would be in here saying how bad the ref was for bailing him out!

Guess you didn't see the for the Lakers two years ago? Where Fisher pulled the guy down, and yet he was shooting the game winning free throws?

dwb
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The idea of refs having favorites is not new, it's human nature. The fact that stars get calls probably is equal parts a sign of respect (there's that human nature thing again) and a general favoring of offensive aggression. As far as the respect, I guess for some that's an earned thing, after all, do rookies generally get calls? Not usually, and no one seems to be up in arms about that. Still, despite all their training, it's only natural to recognize that refs are human, and some of them will be more inclined to allow personal feelings about various players affect the way they call a game. This would be a "degrees" kind of thing, and you would think (hope) that it would be a decided minority of refs involved, but it's actually hard to imagine that it wouldn't happen some.

The stuff about blowing or not blowing the whistle to win a bet, unfortunately I can believe, easily. Also the calling a "tech" at first opportunity on a least favorite to avoid tip duties... sure. Those are "let's gamble and make this interesting" things, I could see happening. Also very unfortunate for the game's sake, but sure. The stuff about Bavetta however, is mind blowing. Obviously the NBA will go with a straight denial, citing the questionable source. I guess the question is, if this knowledge was as commonplace or as obvious as Donaghy suggests, why wasn't it known? With all of the media that surrounds the NBA, you'd think some enterprising reporter would've either picked up on it, or at least collaborated with his stat man and figured it out sooner. Hmmm... you know, in fact... if x number of refs in the league were so obvious in their preference for one team or another that it made certain games they called near locks, you'd almost think Vegas would be aware of that wouldn't you? It is after all, what they do. You think Vegas would allow gambling on fixed games? I don't know, maybe everything Donaghy says is true. Or maybe it's his version of the truth. Or maybe he's just trying to sell books to supplement his licence plate making income. I don't know. I hope we find out.

BoomRizzle
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clipshow wrote:
BoomRizzle wrote:
FightOnRon wrote:
Maybe my beer googles were on but seemed to me young Eric got pasted twice within that last 4 second period yet we walk away with a loss rather then free throws that would have tied or won the game. I think the refs an the NBA in general hate Sterling and our team pays for it.

As i said in the game thread, no ref is making that call at the end of the game. It's not just against our team, it's in any situation across the board. Not kobe, not lebron, not wade... no one gets those bail out cend of game calls to shoot freethrows to win a game. And you definitely wouldn't be sitting here saying that if we were up by 2 and steve nash looked as blatantly obvious trying to draw contact as EG did and the ref calls a foul and sends nash to the line for 3 automatic free throws and they beat us. You would be in here saying how bad the ref was for bailing him out!

Guess you didn't see the for the Lakers two years ago? Where Fisher pulled the guy down, and yet he was shooting the game winning free throws?

But that sounds more like one of those shady ref plays, and i'm not saying those don't exist. i'm a believer of all the stuff in these excerpts cause quite frankly its too good to make up. However, my original point stands true that no ref is making this call at the end of the game unless its amazingly obvious that a whistle has to be blown.

dunc182
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this is very frustrating and upsetting. there should be an immediate enquiryafter these comments, and reviews on gamtape.

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