Yes... Just run the offense you ran most of the game. Forget trying to isolate the matchups... Kaman in the low block worked the first three quarters because the Jazz didn't double him... Once the 4th quarter started, they did double him and Kaman can't handle it... Like I said before, Kaman is a great third option, but he's not a go to guy... Since we don't have a go to go, don't go to one... Just keep running your sets... Keep the ball and the players moving. It's what the Jazz do.

Clipjoe...I notice empty seats but if things get progressively worse in my opinion we need to start showing we love this team by doing anything we can.
This could include boycotting outside Staples or anything anyone can think of.
I know this sounds really REALLY drastic but guys we truly and honestly deserve better.
I hate to see us suffer night in and night out yet there is no credibility in the FO to make changes as they need to be made.
We should be the hand forcing the issue as fans

I was watching that game (morbid curiosity). His defense remains horrible as ever, but I have to give credit on his improved passing and ball movement. He's not going to be a Webber-type passer, but he's moving the ball more than I can ever remember seeing.

Also, we should have taken Marcus Williams as a free agent when we had the chance.

sorry to be negative but even with griffin i dont think we are a playoff team. we need that 1 superstar on this team that we once had in sam cassell or elton brand. now im not saying its barons fault i enjoy having him here but i just dont see him as the player he once was was. but baron did have a good game tonight and i hope he gets better and better each game. on the side note, kaman is still a beast. he just needs to pass better out of double teams.

YES...YES...YES!

Our SF's are killing us right now...I think if we combined both of their best assets, we'd still come up short a player.

I actually think that's more realistic, not negative (unlike a lot of the hyperbole being thrown about by others). I figured we'd improve by 20 games, putting us at 39. I still think we can hit that number, by the way. And despite some lousy third quarter shots, I still think Baron was a positive factor tonight more than a negative. Also, Kaman is playing the best he can; it's not his fault that he finds himself the go-to guy in the fourth.

I'm a Connecticut guy and I've always thought Marcus Williams was going to be a good player in this league. I also watched that Memphis game for awhile. Z-Bo was guarding Bosh for awhile and Bosh scored or was fouled five straight times down the court. Z-Bo sucks and I don't miss him even a little... If he were here, I'd probably stop being a Clipper fan... I looked at the Z-Bo trade as one dreaded player gone and two more to go, Ricky and Baron.

I think of it this way... We just drafted our star, but it's going to take him a few years to be ready to be the go-to guy... Until then, we're just trying to scrape by and get a 7 or 8 spot.

Sam was just a pain in the ass haha. He would use that pump fake and draw the foul to perfection. It would slow their play and drop their confidence.

I still think Baron was a positive factor tonight more than a negative.

Everyone still opposed to trading most of our core for a legit go to guy such as Durant or B Roy like i suggested??? It's obvious. We have a deep team but a bad owner,coach and no take charge player. EJ,Thornton and two 1st round picks for Durant or Brandon Roy! That's my proposal.

**** the flippers now time to watch a real team, the lakers

The Mavs are a 4-6 team in the West, the sort of team we have to be able to step up and beat once in awhile. Let's see it.

Losing Blake the way we did and at the time we did hurt this team more than we can imagine... The enthusiasm was peaking. Once he went down a big blast of air went out of the balloon.

YES...YES...YES!

Our SF's are killing us right now...I think if we combined both of their best assets, we'd still come up short a player.

To get a franchise player we would absolutely have to include Blake. Honestly I don't give a crap. If I'm Dunleavy right now I'd trade Blake,Thornton and EJ if absolutely needed to get someone like Durant or B Roy. I'm sick of losing, I'm sick of excuses and I'm sick of our coaching and ownership. All 3 of these games were VERY winnable and we just blew it period. Baron got a 5 year contract to produce. Sure he's playing well, especially compared to last year but very far from his Golden state run. He was a cold blooded killer in the playoffs when they dominated the Mavs.

Right now he shows no interest in leading this team in the locker room. Sure he's supportive, sure he's making plays. We need a Kobe type though that will get in teammates faces and say quit playing like a bunch of pu***es. Someone like i said in my other post that doesn't take **** from anybody! Baron should be pissed that he's playing solid along with Kaman but the rest of the team including EJ is being inconsistent and nowhere near good.

if i had a choice to only keep 1 of these players out of eric gordon, al thornton, or blake griffin i would keep gordon go ahead call me stupid

You're not stupid. I actually think in the right system Gordon would be an all star this year. Coach runs a crappy system though. Imagine if Phil Jackson got his hands on Eric Gordon!?

or if the knicks picked gordon over gallinari wow he would fit well with d'antoni

Honestly, I just expect more out of our bench at the start of the 4th. I KNOW they are better then that. What was the line up? Jordon, Smith, Gordon, Butler, and Telfair? Against who? Millsap, Kirilenko, Brewer, Price, and Fesenko? I just think Gordon needs to take over in this line up.
We dug our selves in a hole, and from there we got nowhere. That was the problem today, I don't think it had anything to do with not having a "go to guy" or anything. Once you're down 6-8 points @ Utah in the 4th...it's pretty hard to come back.

BTW, Dallas is up.

Exactly. Imagine Gordon as the primary scorer for the Knicks. He would rip people up so bad. You can't have a team full of selfish offensive minded players with poor basketball IQ and no leadership and expect to win. Camby is our only floor general and he's past his prime and hardly our best player. Blake can be that guy... but I don't want to be 3-18 when he returns.

Btw you're wrong ClippersSince88. Why wouldn't a team trade those players for Blake,Thornton and Gordon plus a couple first rounders? If i was their GM i would simply because if history repeats itself.. that's basically a guaranteed top 5 draft pick. Not to mention with a better coaching staff Blake,Thornton and Gordon would be MUCH more efficient. Like i said about Gordon.. Imagine these players with a coach like Phil Jackson???? Lamar Odom is a great example. Played very inconsistently with Clippers and Heat... goes to Lakers and now he's arguably their second most valuable player. He plays extremely well and is a huge game changer, including in the playoffs last year where he got to the free throw line a ton.

I guess we'll have to agree to disagree. I just don't see any team trading proving commodities for players that may be as good in a different system. I've just never seen anything like that happen before. Superstars don't get traded in their prime.

What do you guys think about making a move for Devin Harris or Andre Iguodala?

Like I said on the other post is my lord baby jesus stop acting like getting other players is going to fix a broken system...please.
Let us all face the looming fact that has plagued Clipperland for years. The team management is just sub-par and Dunleavy holding duel roles as GM and Coach, despite his record of being ousted from other organizations, just cements the fact plain and simple.
Getting a good player does not mean success as I believe system and culture are an integral part of being a winning team. The only thing that can save a team like this is a change of management (not going to happen) or a bonafide superstar ala Lebron/Kobe/Wade in other words not going to happen!
Our struggles are thanks to poor management for many many years-simple as that IMHO and each year we do poorly is just another year of history that further buries this organization.
Baron is just not that guy anymore and I don't know if he ever would have been strong enough to lead this team out of the mud.

gets to f**king cocky when the team goes on a roll. He gets all high and mighty and absolutely kills the momentum!

BD, you're not a shooter. Stick to driving the lane with your huge body against smaller guards. That's how you got all your points. You're not the well rounded offensive player you think you are.

0-3 things are turning really ugly. The Griffin loss has been a big negative impact for our team confidence and our guys aren't playing the way they are suposed.

Btw I think it's not time to think about possible trades. It's time to think how to fix our current situation because I don't wanna think this group is headed to another horrible season as the last few years...

The easy fix is to dismiss the coach. This squad has the depth and talent, let's see what Lucas can do as head coach. It's time.

i hope lucas can make his free throws, get those rebounds, and not take ill-advised shots early in the shot clock. if not, we're screwed.