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    Post subject: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Clippers vs. Mav  PostPosted: Nov 01, 2009 - 01:19 AM PST
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    The problem I have with Dunleavy and Gordon was the balance tonight. Dunleavy had a bright spot with bringing in the subs to come back but when you have the Mavericks tied or close you have to go to the potential threats. Not only that but Dunleavy and Baron will have a rift without a doubt.
     
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    The good thing about the NBA , we have less than 2 days until our next game! I'm hoping we get our first win on Monday. If we can't beat the T-wolves, then I don't know what else to say. We can still go on a nice win streak since the games are more favorable. We need a win bad.
     
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    We lost this game because once again, in the 3rd and 4th quarter, we fell in love with force-feeding the post.


    Yep... All the supposed up tempo just went back to last year... Get the ball to Z-Bo... Sick... I've supported Dunleavy for the last time. He needs to go... I hope he takes Baron and Thornton with him... Let Lucas take over for the rest of the season...


    nah lets keep baron, the guy WOULD have had a monster 4th if p3nis played him(i call dunleavy p3nis from now on)

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    Novak should've gotten way more PT tonight.

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    Icecoldclipper wrote:
    The problem I have with Dunleavy and Gordon was the balance tonight. Dunleavy had a bright spot with bringing in the subs to come back but when you have the Mavericks tied or close you have to go to the potential threats. Not only that but Dunleavy and Baron will have a rift without a doubt.


    Yup. Did you see Baron and Camby talking when the camera cut into them during the last 29 seconds of the game. I bet they were talking about the lack of playing time they got in the 4th. The camby and Baron connection was doing well in second quarter. BD was finding kaman as well.

    It's all good guys. I still expect us to win more than 19 wins this season. If we do worst than last year with this lineup relatively healthy. Then this franchise should be abolished from the NBA for good.
     
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    I understand the bench got us back in the game but what I can't understand is why or best defender wasn't in the game. (Camby) Or why Baron wasn't put back in until the game was out of reach. I been saying Dunleavy is a complete idiot since we lost to the suns in the playoffs nothing has changed he should step down and let Lucas coach. After looking at the team he built play I'm not so sure I like it as much as I thought I did. The second team is not all that great.

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    Icecoldclipper wrote:
    The problem I have with Dunleavy and Gordon was the balance tonight. Dunleavy had a bright spot with bringing in the subs to come back but when you have the Mavericks tied or close you have to go to the potential threats. Not only that but Dunleavy and Baron will have a rift without a doubt.


    Agreed. Dunleavy should have brought in Davis sooner by calling a timeout. Twice towards the end, the ball was turned over when a TO could have salvaged the play (one when there was 3 seconds on the shot clock, the other when Smith tried to alley oop it).

    I think he may have stopped trusting Thornton as well.
     
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    I understand the bench got us back in the game but what I can't understand is why or best defender wasn't in the game. (Camby) Or why Baron wasn't put back in until the game was out of reach.


    I'm not sure why he wouldn't bring in Baron either. I think he sat Camby because Smith was outperforming him (he was doing an okay job on Dirk).
     
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    clipperstown wrote:
    anybody know dunleavys email address? i swear to God imma cuss that ****** dunleavy out if i find out his email adress. someone has to just go up to and tell him: "you're and idiot" just straight up somebody has to say that to hiss ****** ass bitch ass face. the guy looks like a p3nis. a p3nis is coaching our team


    I was so freaking angry but not anymore Dumba$$ looking like a p3nis is the funniest ****. Then u say we should start calling him that, u had me on the floor laughing my a$$ Thanks i really need that....
     
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    One word for this season so far!!! "GROTESQUE"

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    Rockford wrote:
    Rasual Butler had way too much damn playing time and contributed nothing more than helping us lose the damn game.

    Although Thornton went 2-8 with 6 points he still managed 2 blocked shots and 6 boards. They should have kept Al in the game for 1 and 2 he should have remained in the game as he still hasn't hit his potential ceiling, Butler is way beyond that right now.

    And if Dunleavy realizes they both aren't doing crap at all, throw in Novak and tell him to bomb 3's, he's the only player we have that can get us back in the game incredibly fast if he's hot. He's much better than the Commissioner at 3's

    Yeah Butler may play with the offense but that's because he doesn't take any shots. He just passes the ball. Hell anyone of us could do that and keep the offense going. He did have a solid game in Phoenix but other than that, hasn't done much of anything.

    If you look at Al's stat line, it looks like he was chucking again tonight. He wasn't and he certainly wasn't a black hole. 80% of those shots were in the paint, just couldn't draw the foul, but at least grabbed the board.

    I agree, if Al and Butler don't get it going quickly just throw in Novak. Because the SF position needs to be contributing more points.

    Bassy and Smith outplayed BD and Camby which is why they sat the 4th, but the vets certainly should of been put in with 4 mins to get when the bench couldn't make it over the hump.

    Dun doesn't manage the rotations very well and puts in players to match with the other teams stars. Just because they sub out Dirk or Kid doesn't mean BD or Kaman automatically sit. Take advantage and have faith the 2nd unit can power through. They did tonight.

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    Camby I can understand Baron was chucking with him but with Baron he will F-up and make-up for it later. I can give them a slide because they may have chucked because they were so tired but still. Baron is the emotional guy though to stay with Telfair isn't a good look. After the two trips when the game close and we got nothing it was time for Baron.


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    I'm so glad I looked at the score before wasting my time watching the recording of this game just to find out we had another 4th quarter meltdown. I'm sorry to the people who spent their Saturday night on Halloween watching us lose because of the dreaded 4th quarter.

    WE BETTER WIN AGAINST MINNESOTA
     
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    elton_sucks42 wrote:
    Icecoldclipper wrote:
    The problem I have with Dunleavy and Gordon was the balance tonight. Dunleavy had a bright spot with bringing in the subs to come back but when you have the Mavericks tied or close you have to go to the potential threats. Not only that but Dunleavy and Baron will have a rift without a doubt.


    Yup. Did you see Baron and Camby talking when the camera cut into them during the last 29 seconds of the game. I bet they were talking about the lack of playing time they got in the 4th. The camby and Baron connection was doing well in second quarter. BD was finding kaman as well.

    It's all good guys. I still expect us to win more than 19 wins this season. If we do worst than last year with this lineup relatively healthy. Then this franchise should be abolished from the NBA for good.


    But I think anything less than 30 victories is disastrous. I'm not ecpecting playoffs but a mere 10 game improvement isn't good enough.
     
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    I understand the bench got us back in the game but what I can't understand is why or best defender wasn't in the game. (Camby) Or why Baron wasn't put back in until the game was out of reach.


    I'm not sure why he wouldn't bring in Baron either. I think he sat Camby because Smith was outperforming him (he was doing an okay job on Dirk).


    Smith did a good job on D and I understand why he would be inclined to keep smith in. But I dont get sitting Baron out the entire 4th. At the5-6 minute mark in the 4th the Telfair well began to get dry. It was time to bring baron in. Baron didnt get up until 48 seconds. we were down by like 7 pts.
     
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    elton_sucks42 wrote:
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    I understand the bench got us back in the game but what I can't understand is why or best defender wasn't in the game. (Camby) Or why Baron wasn't put back in until the game was out of reach.


    I'm not sure why he wouldn't bring in Baron either. I think he sat Camby because Smith was outperforming him (he was doing an okay job on Dirk).


    Smith did a good job on D and I understand why he would be inclined to keep smith in. But I dont get sitting Baron out the entire 4th. At the5-6 minute mark in the 4th the Telfair well began to get dry. It was time to bring baron in. Baron didnt get up until 48 seconds. we were down by like 7 pts.


    Agreed. I don't know why Baron wasn't called in sooner.
     
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    Novak thought he was playing volley ball in his 32 seconds of play.

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    clipperloyal11 wrote:
    I'm so glad I looked at the score before wasting my time watching the recording of this game just to find out we had another 4th quarter meltdown. I'm sorry to the people who spent their Saturday night on Halloween watching us lose because of the dreaded 4th quarter.

    WE BETTER WIN AGAINST MINNESOTA



    it wasnt the players' fault. it wasnt the players' fault last game, or against the suns either. it's never been the player's fault. i just realized that. even before baron davis, when we supposedly needed a 4th quarter scorer, we never needed a 4th quarter scorer. we needed and still need half a decent coach to fill in p3nis' spot.

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    The problem I have with Dunleavy and Gordon was the balance tonight. Dunleavy had a bright spot with bringing in the subs to come back but when you have the Mavericks tied or close you have to go to the potential threats. Not only that but Dunleavy and Baron will have a rift without a doubt.


    Yup. Did you see Baron and Camby talking when the camera cut into them during the last 29 seconds of the game. I bet they were talking about the lack of playing time they got in the 4th. The camby and Baron connection was doing well in second quarter. BD was finding kaman as well.

    It's all good guys. I still expect us to win more than 19 wins this season. If we do worst than last year with this lineup relatively healthy. Then this franchise should be abolished from the NBA for good.


    But I think anything less than 30 victories is disastrous. I'm not ecpecting playoffs but a mere 10 game improvement isn't good enough.


    This. We need at least something at .500
     
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    anybody know dunleavys email address? i swear to God imma cuss that ****** dunleavy out if i find out his email adress. someone has to just go up to and tell him: "you're and idiot" just straight up somebody has to say that to hiss ****** ass bitch ass face. the guy looks like a p3nis. a p3nis is coaching our team


    I was so freaking angry but not anymore Dumba$$ looking like a p3nis is the funniest ****. Then u say we should start calling him that, u had me on the floor laughing my a$$ Thanks i really need that....


    That's funny cuz my girlfriend says the same thing she hates when the camera is on him.

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    i was sitting in the box seats for the first time ever but had to suffer through dumbleavies stupid coaching in the 4th and one guy even smashed a wine bottle on the floor and just started cursing.
     
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    i was sitting in the box seats for the first time ever but had to suffer through dumbleavies stupid coaching in the 4th and one guy even smashed a wine bottle on the floor and just started cursing.
    LMAO
     
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    Guys I think Baron is hurt. I saw him streaching his back. The reason Camby wasn't in is that Smith had Dirk's number (as much as anyone can) He bodied him so tight Dirk couldn't do much. With Blake (sorry I know he's a rook) we very well may be way better than Dallas. Till Baron went down we were smoking tonight. We lacked Defense. however but we were sitll winning. It was like swiss cheese

    Toohip 3:16 The Bottom Line Son is Telfair lost the game. He took two ill advised shots and fouled a 3 point shooter then got a technical. A healthy Baron in in the 4th = 5 pt win. This was not a 4th quarter meltdown. We were down double digits and came back fast

    During shoot around, Novak missed ~ 70% of his shots. Yes you heard right, missed. Remember last yr when he went into a slump and couldn't hit the back wall? He may need to go. We need a Q Ross because we do 't have a good defender except Camby. Can we trade Ricky for Q?

    As far as Cakeman -- Too Sweet. The reason they kept feeding the post is CK was torching them

    Most of Al's shots were highly contested and he worked hard. He didn't get his number called and he can't create. Also he was guarding Marion and is too short.
     
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    I'm still wondering why we kept Novak his three point shot alone got him on the team.

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    toohipcliptoslip wrote:
    Guys I think Baron is hurt. I saw him streaching his back. The reason Camby wasn't in is that Smith had Dirk's number (as much as anyone can) He bodied him so tight Dirk couldn't do much. With Blake (sorry I know he's a rook) we very well may be way better than Dallas. Till Baron went down we were smoking tonight. We lacked Defense. however but we were sitll winning. It was like swiss cheese

    Toohip 3:16 The Bottom Line Son is Telfair lost the game. He took two ill advised shots and fouled a 3 point shooter then got a technical. A healthy Baron in in the 4th = 5 pt win. This was not a 4th quarter meltdown. We were down double digits and came back fast

    During shoot around, Novak missed ~ 70% of his shots. Yes you heard right, missed. Remember last yr when he went into a slump and couldn't hit the back wall? He may need to go. We need a Q Ross because we do 't have a good defender except Camby. Can we trade Ricky for Q?

    As far as Cakeman -- Too Sweet. The reason they kept feeding the post is CK was torching them

    Most of Al's shots were highly contested and he worked hard. He didn't get his number called and he can't create. Also he was guarding Marion and is too short.


    That Telfair 4-point sequence was a real buzz-killer.

    Before that, Baron had a sweet layup attacking the rim, and when the Mavs went for a halfcourt inbound pass, Kaman intercepted the ball, ran the ball himself and scored a layup for the and 1. In ten seconds, the Clippers build a four-point lead and the entire team (and audience) was electrified...

    If Baron got hurt, it would explain his absence at the end.
     
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    clipps04 wrote:
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    Rasual Butler had way too much damn playing time and contributed nothing more than helping us lose the damn game.

    Although Thornton went 2-8 with 6 points he still managed 2 blocked shots and 6 boards. They should have kept Al in the game for 1 and 2 he should have remained in the game as he still hasn't hit his potential ceiling, Butler is way beyond that right now.

    And if Dunleavy realizes they both aren't doing crap at all, throw in Novak and tell him to bomb 3's, he's the only player we have that can get us back in the game incredibly fast if he's hot. He's much better than the Commissioner at 3's

    Yeah Butler may play with the offense but that's because he doesn't take any shots. He just passes the ball. Hell anyone of us could do that and keep the offense going. He did have a solid game in Phoenix but other than that, hasn't done much of anything.

    If you look at Al's stat line, it looks like he was chucking again tonight. He wasn't and he certainly wasn't a black hole. 80% of those shots were in the paint, just couldn't draw the foul, but at least grabbed the board.

    I agree, if Al and Butler don't get it going quickly just throw in Novak. Because the SF position needs to be contributing more points.

    Bassy and Smith outplayed BD and Camby which is why they sat the 4th, but the vets certainly should of been put in with 4 mins to get when the bench couldn't make it over the hump.

    Dun doesn't manage the rotations very well and puts in players to match with the other teams stars. Just because they sub out Dirk or Kid doesn't mean BD or Kaman automatically sit. Take advantage and have faith the 2nd unit can power through. They did tonight.


    This is the thing that gets me the most. It's like monkey see monkey do . We need the other team to adjust to us for once instead of us adjusting and reacting to them. The schedule gets easier so we'll see how the guys fair with these next few games. hopefully we can go on a win streak.
     
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    All I can say is this looks like typical Dunleavy Clippers basketball good for 3 quarters and then bad in the 4th. I hope that if this continues Dunleavy will be gone as coach before Blake returns. We have a solid roster this year and our guys are playing hard the 4th quarter lineups and coaching is what is lacking. I hope we go on a winning streak in these next games our schedule looks pretty easy for the majority of November with exception of the Nuggets.
     
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    checkdafool10 wrote:
    i was sitting in the box seats for the first time ever but had to suffer through dumbleavies stupid coaching in the 4th and one guy even smashed a wine bottle on the floor and just started cursing.


    Greatest thing I've read on the forums. If I were at the game I would have bought him a beer.

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    The situation is becoming nastier and nastier...I don't wanna think we are a lottery team once again.
     
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    Miquel wrote:
    The situation is becoming nastier and nastier...I don't wanna think we are a lottery team once again.


    Well then, no offense but it seems like you were thinking and had it set in stone we would be the #7 or 8 seed in the West this year. I thought 35 wins or more was a good possibility, and as we don't play in the weak East that isn't going to cut it for a playoff team. I think 35 or even 30+ wins is a massive improvement. It would give us a draft position still of around 8-14 but we could secure a positive player ( a PG or SF would be delicious ) to add to our depth and next year Gordon and Griffin would take over as the 2 leaders of this team and become the dynamic duo we were dreaming of when we say our team was picking 1st in the draft.


    I really think in the first 20 games if things aren't looking so well we really need to consider pulling out all stops to bring in Avery Johnson he's a terrific coach.

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    Miquel wrote:
    The situation is becoming nastier and nastier...I don't wanna think we are a lottery team once again.


    I hate to say it. but I think that's what we are. I think this team will be lucky to win 32 games this year...

    On paper we look pretty good, but when you watch us, it's pretty ugly...


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    Are you guys finally on board with me on something that sohould have been done like last year?

    I am so frustrated right now that I am to the point where I do not look foward to watching them.

    It's the same thing over and over. They come aout competitive only to let it slip in the 3rd and 4th quarter.
    If that's the case, they are one Sam Cassell away from putting this team over the hill.

    I am DONE with Dumbleavy and done with Baron Davis.

    P.S. WTF is up with Thornton? Does somebody want to remind his arse to DRIVE IN and quit taking shots that he can't make.

    That kid was a semi one hit wonder

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    Clipper-Josh wrote:
    Are you guys finally on board with me on something that sohould have been done like last year?

    I am so frustrated right now that I am to the point where I do not look foward to watching them.

    It's the same thing over and over. They come aout competitive only to let it slip in the 3rd and 4th quarter.
    If that's the case, they are one Sam Cassell away from putting this team over the hill.

    I am DONE with Dumbleavy and done with Baron Davis.

    P.S. WTF is up with Thornton? Does somebody want to remind his arse to DRIVE IN and quit taking shots that he can't make.

    That kid was a semi one hit wonder


    I've never been a fan of Dunleavy. He is who I thought he was, when we first hired him, and that is an average coach.

    I do think he's a pretty decent GM, but I think he should step down as coach...
     
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    We need the other team to adjust to us for once instead of us adjusting and reacting to them.


    Other teams are adjusting to us. They double Kaman in the fourth quarter forcing him to turn the ball over or take more difficult shots. They back off Baron to limit his penetration because they know he can't shoot, and do the same with Bassy. The single cover Thornton, then rush into the paint when he drives because they know he plays with his head down and can't pass. They deny Gordon because they know he doesn't move effectively without the ball (he should watch Rip Hamilton). They put Camby on a self check because they know he's not likely to hurt them at the offensive end.

    Yes, teams are adjusting to us just fine.
     
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    Rockford wrote:
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    The situation is becoming nastier and nastier...I don't wanna think we are a lottery team once again.


    Well then, no offense but it seems like you were thinking and had it set in stone we would be the #7 or 8 seed in the West this year. I thought 35 wins or more was a good possibility, and as we don't play in the weak East that isn't going to cut it for a playoff team. I think 35 or even 30+ wins is a massive improvement. It would give us a draft position still of around 8-14 but we could secure a positive player ( a PG or SF would be delicious ) to add to our depth and next year Gordon and Griffin would take over as the 2 leaders of this team and become the dynamic duo we were dreaming of when we say our team was picking 1st in the draft.


    I really think in the first 20 games if things aren't looking so well we really need to consider pulling out all stops to bring in Avery Johnson he's a terrific coach.


    I'm pretty sure with Griffin we could have won at least one game. He brings us leadership, character, hustle and attitude. Most of the things this team lacks...

    Some of our players have lazy faces
     
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    baron isnt the problem!!!!! he was never the problem, and never will be the problem!!!! its all dunleavys fault!!!!!!1 i need that guys email adress to cuss his a$$ out

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    next game is very winnable.

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    clipperstown wrote:
    baron isnt the problem!!!!! he was never the problem, and never will be the problem!!!! its all dunleavys fault!!!!!!1 i need that guys email adress to cuss his a$$ out


    Cipperstown, I think Baron isn't the biggest problem, and I agree that it is Dunleavy that should bear the brunt of the iticism. However, Barons past four games have been something like: 2 points, 12 points, 21 points, 9 points. I can't say anything about his assists, rebounds, and steals because theyhave been good. However, Baron's offensive efforts are very erratic and troubling. During some of these games a better offensive effort from his part could have won us the game. Look at the Lakers game for example. We lost it by seven points, and that could have easily come from Davis. Instead Davis only contributes 2 points. The only game he played well (offensively) was against Utah, and while he is not as bad as last year I think he still is not scoring like we need him to. So I think Baron kind of does bear some responsibility for our loses, as does Dunleavy
     
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    Classic...repped!
     
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    Rockford wrote:
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    The situation is becoming nastier and nastier...I don't wanna think we are a lottery team once again.


    Well then, no offense but it seems like you were thinking and had it set in stone we would be the #7 or 8 seed in the West this year. I thought 35 wins or more was a good possibility, and as we don't play in the weak East that isn't going to cut it for a playoff team. I think 35 or even 30+ wins is a massive improvement. It would give us a draft position still of around 8-14 but we could secure a positive player ( a PG or SF would be delicious ) to add to our depth and next year Gordon and Griffin would take over as the 2 leaders of this team and become the dynamic duo we were dreaming of when we say our team was picking 1st in the draft.


    I really think in the first 20 games if things aren't looking so well we really need to consider pulling out all stops to bring in Avery Johnson he's a terrific coach.


    I totally agree with this, if you look at what he did at the Mavs he was terrific, even if dissapointing in the playoffs two years in a row. He's a bit of a fiery nutter which is what we need to kickstart lazy players like Baron and DJ. Avery all the way.

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    Just saw the game (recorded) we did a good job at staying close but we didnt take the chance when we could.

    Kaman is just unbelievable

    Baron is almost there
     
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    Why the hell didn't baron, Al, and camby come back in during the 4th quarter? was it just dunleavy's dumbness or was it due to injuries? i saw baron being stretched out so i thought it might have been due to injury but he then looked fine after the game. telfair flat out killed us down the stetch. by stetch i mean the final 5 minutes. he took terrible shots, he turned it over, he was killed on defense, and most importantly HE WAS VERY TIRED. why in the world would dunleavy leave his bench players in for so long. they're not use to those minutes. craig smith through the ball up terribly for an alley oop and then gasped for breath. if it wasn't due to injury then, WOW.

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    Why didn't you add this to the Mavericks thread instead of creating a new one?
     
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    Found the answer:
    "I just felt he got us back into the game and was making plays and making shots," Dunleavy said. "BD was getting some treatment on his leg anyway."

    dunleavy so dumb.

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    So you clog up the threads with a question which you already had the answer to, just to call attention to it.

    Kudos.

    This very question is (repeatedly) brought up and discussed on the Mavericks thread, by the way.


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    Why not focus on the more important issues that are hurting this team...like I dont know turnovers, floor spacing, and defense?
     
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    journeyman wrote:
    So you clog up the threads with a question which you already had the answer to, just to call attention to it.

    Kudos.

    This very question is (repeatedly) brought up and discussed on the Mavericks thread, by the way.

    i didn't know the answer before i made it.

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