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Clipperdom
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GOt this from relgm forum...

So I was listening to Sports Radio and they were saying that Joey D. and the LAC are having serious discussions on a trade.

The trade is:

Rip Hamilton and Rodney Stuckey

for

Chris Kaman and Baron Davis

Has anybody else heard of this? Is there any truth in this? I hope to God not.

PG:Stuckey/Telfair

SG:Rip Hamilton/Gordon/Rush

SF: Al Thorton/Butler

PF: Blake Griffin/Novak

C: Marcus Camby/Jordan

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if this happens (its not) we really are cursed.

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I'd do baron and camby..but not kaman.

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Interesting rumor.

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^ Definitely interesting but I would never do that. Kaman is playing too well for us to trade him right now, and that trade is not good enough to make me budge. I'm not too sold on Stuckey but he would save us some money between the difference of his and Baron's contract. I'm not ready to give up on Baron yet, but if the Pistons offered Stuckey and Prince for Baron and Camby, I absolutely do that deal. No questions asked. I love Prince's game and Stuckey has potential. If he doesnt work out we have more money to spend this offseason for another point guard. The lineup would be sick.

Stuckey/Telfair/Collins

Gordon/Butler/Rush

Prince/Thornton/Butler

Griffin/Smith/Novak

Kaman/DJ/Skinner

But I'm just dreaming. If the rumors of MD and Dumars talking is real, I'm sure they want to unload Rip because they just signed Gordon. No way they would give us Prince but I can hope right?

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+1.

We could get much more for Kaman.

Also, we should go after Prince instead of Rip.

On 2nd thought, this leaves us without a PG, as Stuckey is not close to one. However, if we can get Prince for Thornton/filler, I'll all for it. Smile

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Rip is a great player... Stuckey, though raw, is still a better bet long term than a fading Baron Davis... Especially given the salary difference... I don't think there's anything there and kaman is the best player in the trade... If Dunleavy is thinking of including him, he must really want to get rid of Baron... Can't say I blame him there.

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i dont see this happening, to panic because of a 0-4 start would be ridiculous, Kaman is playing like a beast

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Detriot traded a 2 time NBA Champ and Finals MVP to make room for Stucky last year. Stucky has lots and lots of potential. I would throw Thornton into the deal as well if they ask for him and camby instead of Kaman

Stucky, Gordon, Griffin...and perhaps DeAndre is a MUCH MUCH MUCH better young core then gordon, thornton, Griffn

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Nuts.....Kaman is going to be the best he has been for yeas because,,if I recall,,he has one or two years left ont he contract so he'll be a beast.

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Especially an 0-4 start to really good teams. If a trade like this happened even I, one of the most optimistic fans around, would be on strike.

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You would be stupid to trade Kaman for that! Oh wait, we're the Clippers!!!

I would NOT trade Kaman at this point. And at this point his stock is hotter than Hamilton and Stuckey!

Now I am willing to trade Davis straight up for Stuckey but we don't need another SG in the mix.

It's only the 4th game of the season and already this?

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How about Baron for Rondo? It works financially. 8)

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I suppose the trade work as Baron stock must be rock bottom. But I don't really like that trade and subbing in Camby for Kaman will not fly for Detroit.

I agree with the posters who say we can get more for Kaman. If we're looking at trading now, Kaman's stock has never been higher, and half the league was looking to acquire him last season. Camby is not a solution to losing Chris and DJ, who seemed poised to take over this season (while Chris looked good but not great), has played quite poor while Kaman has dominated.

Besides, isn't Stuckey not a very good playmaker? Detroit thought he was ready to take over the PG role but didn't nearly perform the way the FO had expected.

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Salaries don't match...Stuckey is in his rookie contract and Kaman and BD are earning more than 10 mil per year.

If Hamilton contract expired earlier it would be interesting but his contract is similar in terms of years to the Davis contract and furthermore we already have Gordon.

Put Prince in the talks and it could make sense...

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illastrate wrote:
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You would be stupid to trade Kaman for that! Oh wait, we're the Clippers!!!

I would NOT trade Kaman at this point. And at this point his stock is hotter than Hamilton and Stuckey!

Now I am willing to trade Davis straight up for Stuckey but we don't need another SG in the mix.

It's only the 4th game of the season and already this?

How about Baron for Rondo? It works financially. 8)

I would really love this scenario, but man I can't say that there 't problems with that suggestion. From a talent perspective I'm all for it. Rondo's EFF is through the roof, and he is only in his third or fourth year I assume. However, the downside is attitude. Rondo is known to be a hot head. Also, I doubt Boston would trade him for Baron. I'm sure they are tired of Rondo's antics, but the guy is a killer on the b-ball court

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Yea... that would be a scary lineup!

Stuckey

Gordon

Prince

Griffin

Kaman or Camby

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lakerh8r wrote:
illastrate wrote:
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You would be stupid to trade Kaman for that! Oh wait, we're the Clippers!!!

I would NOT trade Kaman at this point. And at this point his stock is hotter than Hamilton and Stuckey!

Now I am willing to trade Davis straight up for Stuckey but we don't need another SG in the mix.

It's only the 4th game of the season and already this?

How about Baron for Rondo? It works financially. 8)

I would really love this scenario, but man I can't say that there 't problems with that suggestion. From a talent perspective I'm all for it. Rondo's EFF is through the roof, and he is only in his third or fourth year I assume. However, the downside is attitude. Rondo is known to be a hot head. Also, I doubt Boston would trade him for Baron. I'm sure they are tired of Rondo's antics, but the guy is a killer on the b-ball court

I would sure like to know what "attitude problems" Rondo has had. Plus you do realize we have this 30 year old injury plagued guy named BARON DAVIS...not exactly without fault during his career.

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illastrate wrote:
lakerh8r wrote:
illastrate wrote:
Clipper-Josh wrote:
You would be stupid to trade Kaman for that! Oh wait, we're the Clippers!!!

I would NOT trade Kaman at this point. And at this point his stock is hotter than Hamilton and Stuckey!

Now I am willing to trade Davis straight up for Stuckey but we don't need another SG in the mix.

It's only the 4th game of the season and already this?

How about Baron for Rondo? It works financially. 8)

I would really love this scenario, but man I can't say that there 't problems with that suggestion. From a talent perspective I'm all for it. Rondo's EFF is through the roof, and he is only in his third or fourth year I assume. However, the downside is attitude. Rondo is known to be a hot head. Also, I doubt Boston would trade him for Baron. I'm sure they are tired of Rondo's antics, but the guy is a killer on the b-ball court

I would sure like to know what "attitude problems" Rondo has had. Plus you do realize we have this 30 year old injury plagued guy named BARON DAVIS...not exactly without fault during his career.

I don't think Boston would have given Rondo a $55 million contract if they weren't planning on keeping him around for while.

And, I'd only be interested in a trade with the Pistons if Prince was involved and Kaman was not.

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Embarassed I can't help but to feel a bit embarassed at the moment. Embarassed

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illastrate wrote:
lakerh8r wrote:
illastrate wrote:
Clipper-Josh wrote:
You would be stupid to trade Kaman for that! Oh wait, we're the Clippers!!!

I would NOT trade Kaman at this point. And at this point his stock is hotter than Hamilton and Stuckey!

Now I am willing to trade Davis straight up for Stuckey but we don't need another SG in the mix.

It's only the 4th game of the season and already this?

How about Baron for Rondo? It works financially. 8)

I would really love this scenario, but man I can't say that there 't problems with that suggestion. From a talent perspective I'm all for it. Rondo's EFF is through the roof, and he is only in his third or fourth year I assume. However, the downside is attitude. Rondo is known to be a hot head. Also, I doubt Boston would trade him for Baron. I'm sure they are tired of Rondo's antics, but the guy is a killer on the b-ball court

I would sure like to know what "attitude problems" Rondo has had. Plus you do realize we have this 30 year old injury plagued guy named BARON DAVIS...not exactly without fault during his career.

Well, I certainly agree with you that Rondo is a better fit than Baron Davis. My reservations were only that he would have clashes, but I think at this point I would rather deal with that than Baron Davis' play. As far as attitude problems that stems from Rondo's clashes with Doc Rivers, who called Rondo "uncoachable" at one point.

If Rondo had such a hard time with Doc Rivers then imagine what kind of beef he would have with Dleavy, but other than that I would be all for the trade...again I doubt anyone would give away Rondo for Baron

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ClipfanSince88 wrote:
illastrate wrote:
lakerh8r wrote:
illastrate wrote:
Clipper-Josh wrote:
You would be stupid to trade Kaman for that! Oh wait, we're the Clippers!!!

I would NOT trade Kaman at this point. And at this point his stock is hotter than Hamilton and Stuckey!

Now I am willing to trade Davis straight up for Stuckey but we don't need another SG in the mix.

It's only the 4th game of the season and already this?

How about Baron for Rondo? It works financially. 8)

I would really love this scenario, but man I can't say that there 't problems with that suggestion. From a talent perspective I'm all for it. Rondo's EFF is through the roof, and he is only in his third or fourth year I assume. However, the downside is attitude. Rondo is known to be a hot head. Also, I doubt Boston would trade him for Baron. I'm sure they are tired of Rondo's antics, but the guy is a killer on the b-ball court

I would sure like to know what "attitude problems" Rondo has had. Plus you do realize we have this 30 year old injury plagued guy named BARON DAVIS...not exactly without fault during his career.

I don't think Boston would have given Rondo a $55 million contract if they weren't planning on keeping him around for while.

Very true. Rondo is a gem and Boston is wise to that. Guys, check out his EFF its at like over the charts. He's a very good team player

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lol if this happens, then dunleavy is just... i dont know how to explain his idiocity. i would however, do baron, camby, and thornton for stucky and prince

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wait dude you said a realgm forum???/ the forums mean nothing. its basically fans like us making trade proposals. its not a trade rumor, it just something fans create, just like how we do here on CTB

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that would be nice

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This is no doubt a panic move. The offense is flowing Baron is not playing great but he's is putting up numbers. Kaman is straight up All-star material. This trade does however make sense for Kaman. He goes home and is finally out of Clipper hell as most players refer to it. Baron on the other hand just got here and is still hoping for a miracle (Dunleavy getting canned).... Most of u would do any stupid trade just to get Baron out of here. But becareful what u ask for. all this trade will do is buy Dunleavy more time, he is dead man walking. In the end this is Dunleavys way of sticking it to the franchise one last time before he's canned. This trade honestly does not improve us Stuckey is not better than Baron. Trading Kaman now with no post player in return will leave a big emty hole for us. He is as of now our only low post threat. D.J. is so raw and nailed to the bench for possibly the rest of his career or Dunleavy career. Camby plays outside the box. Blake is atleast two years from commanding doulbe teams. We need Kaman and Baron, what we don't need is a G.M. making a panic trade because he know's his coach is a moron and can't win with the highest Clippers payroll in history.....

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dude its not even a real rumor its just trade ideas created by fans. THIS IS NOT A REAL RUMOR! just like here, people on realgm make trade proposals for other people to see. THERE IS NO SUCH RUMOR!

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Can't argue with most of your points, but surely you would like to see Baron traded for someone better. He hasn't been horrible this year, but he has still hasn't gotten himself out of the doghouse. If there was someone better than Stuckey would you make the trade EG 23?

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I would trade Kaman if we could get rid of Baron's contract. I think Kaman will go down again. He is playing well, but I think we need to move in a different direction.

We really don't have a star and thats what we need more than anything. No trade is going to make us better. I would be happy to make a trade for Tayshan Prince, and Rip Hamilton for Baron and Kaman. Both our teams are moveing in different directions.

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Baron for life F*%$ the haters

Camby and Al for Prince staright up

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After this trade we'd be overloaded at 2 guard- so yeah doesn't seem to make sense.

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This trade is dumb.....stuckey cant even play PG well....hes more of a shooting guard and hamilton hasnt been back to his former self since his battle with AI...

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This would give us a considerable amount of cap space for 2010 and right away for that matter. Maybe they want to go after Amare in 2010? I hope so Very Happy

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I actually think we should keep Baron. Why is everybody so quick to get rid of him just to get rid of his contract? Its not like he's Andre Kirilenko getting paid 18 mil and not even being good enough to start. Baron has been going all out and you can sense the intensity when he played these last 5 games. You can sense the difference when Baron's in the game and when Telfair is in the game. Telfair is good and all, but Baron just has what it takes to jumpstart the offense, whether its him driving to the basket and dishing it off or going right into the opponent's big men and finishing off the play.

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Funny how this post is created after everyone bashed my potential trade Kaman post that wasn't at all me saying we SHOULD trade him but just me talking about potential scenarios.

And even if the salaries don't match don't the Pistons still have a bit of cap room to spare? I recall them having like 20 mill or something last year before they went after Chuckie V and Ben Gordon. I don't think with their re-signings and those 2 players are eating up all their free cap space.

If this has any truth at all, it'd be US not the Pistons holding back on this, as it would make them a whole helluva lot better. I think it could have been them proposing the idea to us and us wanting more. Which we have the right to. I think add in Thornton, throw in Prince and either Will Bynum or a draft pick and I'd take the deal.

Rip can come off the bench with Thornton and we'd be pretty good.

Stuckey

Gordon

Prince

Griffin

Camby

then

Hamilton

Butler

Telfair

Smith

Jordan

Bynum

That'd be a pretty good team, better than I think what we have currently. But of course we'd have to wait until Griffin came back, so we'd probably have Craig Smith start for a bit.

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I agree. I'm convinced that there's a lot of people on CTB that are watching reruns from last season and missing this years games.

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BoomRizzle wrote:
clipperloyal11 wrote:
I actually think we should keep Baron. Why is everybody so quick to get rid of him just to get rid of his contract? Its not like he's Andre Kirilenko getting paid 18 mil and not even being good enough to start. Baron has been going all out and you can sense the intensity when he played these last 5 games. You can sense the difference when Baron's in the game and when Telfair is in the game. Telfair is good and all, but Baron just has what it takes to jumpstart the offense, whether its him driving to the basket and dishing it off or going right into the opponent's big men and finishing off the play.

I agree. I'm convinced that there's a lot of people on CTB that are watching reruns from last season and missing this years games.

+1 more. If Dunleavy didn't put Baron back in the game last night when he did, I don't think we win it. With the exception of the Laker game, his play has been solid. Sure, I'd like to see some more consistent shooting from him, but I don't have any real complaints other than that.

Unless a trade comes the team's way that clearly is going to make them better, I say stick with the current roster, try to keep our heads above water until December, and see what things look like after Blake comes back. This Pistons trade definitely does not fall in the category of one that clear is going to make the Clippers better.

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chris paul (who wants out)

eric gordon

lebron

griffin

kaman/jordan

make it happen.

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Where does it say Paul wants out?

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clipperloyal11 wrote:
ekker3 wrote:
chris paul (who wants out)

eric gordon

lebron

griffin

kaman/jordan

make it happen.

Where does it say Paul wants out?

I haven't heard that either, but it wouldn't surprise me. The Hornets don't exactly seem to be moving in the right direction and Paul, of all people, its probably most aware of that.

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the grizzles didnt decide on an extension with Rudy Gay, how about Al Thornton for Rudy Smile

yeah that would never happen

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yeah CP3 is starting to get pissed. i forgot where i read that it said he is about to start asking the hornets to bring in help for him. if that doesnt happen(which it wont cause the hornets are in a huge financial probelm), then CP3 demands a trade. if CP3 demands a trade, we can give the honets most of our expiring contracts and baron, and they give us CP3 and one of their bad contracts, like peja or posey. so this can really work since the hornets get cap flexibility in both getting rid of a couple of big contracts AND getting expirings.

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hornets will never take baron back, he demanded a trade when he was a hornet, why would they give him a try again

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I'm sorry but if we are trading for Paul, we will probably have to give up Gordon and/or Griffin, not just Baron and expirings

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Agreed. He's the best PG in the league and one of the top 5-10 players overall. No way the Hornets give him up for cheap, even if he is disgruntled.

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The rumor comes from realgm, which itself cites second-hand conjecture supposedly heard on the radio.

Well, hurry up and pack their bags, amiright?

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ClipfanSince88 wrote:
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I'm sorry but if we are trading for Paul, we will probably have to give up Gordon and/or Griffin, not just Baron and expirings

Agreed. He's the best PG in the league and one of the top 5-10 players overall. No way the Hornets give him up for cheap, even if he is disgruntled.

He's arguably in the top 4 behind Lebron Kobe and Wade

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ClipfanSince88 wrote:
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I'm sorry but if we are trading for Paul, we will probably have to give up Gordon and/or Griffin, not just Baron and expirings

Agreed. He's the best PG in the league and one of the top 5-10 players overall. No way the Hornets give him up for cheap, even if he is disgruntled.

they can have griffin, cause we all know that griffin is never going to be that good of a player like CP3. blake is going to be a great player, but never the top of his position and blake wont ever be in the top 5 NBA players

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