I disagree with you defending Gooden. Fans are not being paid millions of dollars. Heckling is obviously a huge part of the stadium atmosphere and players know this. A big part of being a professional athlete is upholding your sport to a certain level of respect. All athletes are fully aware that they will be boo'ed, heckled, and name called going into a visitors stadium where they are literally surrounded by 15,000+ fans that are there to support their opposition. Any athlete at the professional level should be well past words affecting their actions. But as we've seen all too well (Ron Artest in the stands comes to mind) this is not the case. Million dollar athletes stooping to the level of an everyday fan who is there to get drunk and be an obnoxious a**hole should be punished and fined. Especially when using a hate word such as "f*g", regardless if its an everyday term for modern America, which i agree it is.

I disagree with you defending Gooden. Fans are not being paid millions of dollars. Heckling is obviously a huge part of the stadium atmosphere and players know this. A big part of being a professional athlete is upholding your sport to a certain level of respect. All athletes are fully aware that they will be boo'ed, heckled, and name called going into a visitors stadium where they are literally surrounded by 15,000+ fans that are there to support their opposition. Any athlete at the professional level should be well past words affecting their actions. But as we've seen all too well (Ron Artest in the stands comes to mind) this is not the case. Million dollar athletes stooping to the level of an everyday fan who is there to get drunk and be an obnoxious a**hole should be punished and fined. Especially when using a hate word such as "f*g", regardless if its an everyday term for modern America, which i agree it is.

I'm in no way sticking up for Chris Wylde or any other douchebag fan, and i do agree with both your guys points. I was just pointing out the fact that when you have a retarded obnoxious fan and a million dollar professional athlete that plays in high emotion atmospheres on a daily basis, then obviously you need to hold the athlete to a higher standard, because in all serious what does anyone really expect from a typical American these days?

Any time a situation like this comes along the athlete is always going to be in the wrong. Gooden should understand this and keep a cool head cause its only going to end up with him being made yet another example by D.Stern.

i think you are missing the point. The Fan is a fool for turning this into such a big deal and making the Clippers fans and NBA fans look dumb. Thats what i have a problem with. This guy is so attention hungry it is sickening.

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I guess i am missing the point, because I don't feel he made me look dumb as a fan? How does it affect me as a fan when a D-List comedian sees an opportunity to get on TMZ by playing the victim to a much bigger stars actions. Basketball fans will take this for what it is, a douchebag that drew out a reaction from drew (lol). But to the everyday American and people in homosexual activist/support groups reading this on news sites its going to be taken at face value. A mega star called another human being a "f*g" in a public setting. The only person going to look bad and dumb in this entire situation is Gooden.

words that put down people of any race, culture, gender, sexual preference, etc. should never be tolerated. they're all in the same boat. i dont care what that fan called him.


(ugh, i cant stand chris wylde)

Your last sentence is the problem.

I am a little more in favor of a fan code of conduct. I really don't think fans should be aloud to get to out of hand. To drunk...sloppy....spilling beer on folks.....and using profanity while children are around.....your are GONE! And why are the players getting fined while fans are aloud to say obscene things to the point of being obnoxious. Their behavior isn't acceptable in a restaurant, a church, or even on a public sidewalk. In my place of business they would be escorted to the door. Why is it suddenly acceptable at a game. It seems a fan is aloud to do just about anything and get away with it except get into a fight. Then and only then they are ejected. Being a fan and buying a ticket should not give you unlimited immunity from being a jerk. There are ways to show your support for your team without being disrespectful of the opposing players, the other people seated around you, and all of humanity.

Found this posted yesterday. It's Chris Wylde's statement of what happened. If he's telling the truth then obviously he did nothing to provoke Goodens reaction and i dont see how Chris Wylde is in the wrong or needs to be accountable at all?

I agree that typically this is a problem with society, but its America and that's the free world that we live in. But at the same time, you have a problem with him trying to get publicity but yet YOU'RE GIVING HIM WHAT HE WANTS? He managed to get you so riled up that you felt the need to give him the light of day and have a discussion about it. Guess he wins.

www(dot)youtube(dot)com/chriswyldeforever#p/a/u/0/16ZoS7xhU64

Like i said, IF he's telling the truth. There's two sides to every story. And i'm not saying that a post on CTB is really a huge contributor to the media fire of the story. I was just pointing out that you're giving him what you're mad about him trying to get. And i'm not trying to attack you personally or anything like that. I've enjoyed the thought provoking conversation.