Current Poll Results- Who Will Score?

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JamFan
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Normally when we do a new poll we have a clear, definitive, winning answer. If not, things are usually narrowned down to 1 or 2. So it is interesting how in the current poll, TopBuzz fans are evenly split between 4 players when answering who is going to step up and carry the scoring after Maggette. The almost 4 way tie is between Al Thorton, Chris Kaman, Cat Mobley, and Sam Cassell. Maybe we should have polled who was going to be the leading scorer. I assumed most would feel it would be Maggette with Brand and Livingston out for a yet to be determined length of time.

toohipcliptoslip
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Maybe all four will Smile

clipper*joe
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Here are my predictions if and only if Cassell can stay healthy;

  1. Maggette

  2. Cassell

  3. Mobley

  4. Chris Kaman

  5. Tim Thomas or Ruben Patterson (if he gets playing time. if not, he falls to #7)

  6. Quinton Ross

  • Cassell & Maggette will sometimes share the top spot during the course of the season but Maggette should take the chunk of it.

  • Mobley & Kaman will do the same thing but I think Mobley should fall into the #3 spot.

  • Al Thorton -I couldn't make any prediction since I don't know how much Dunleavy will utilize him.

*** I think 5, 6, & 7 are up in the air depending on the playing time. Ross really deserves to be out there and should be allowed to shoot more this year.

dwb
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Who Scores? Corey will likely lead the team by a lot... unfortunately. Patterson and Thornton may surprise. Actually Patterson is a proven scorer coming off a good season, and Thornton certainly has the attitude. Al's performance in the Summer League was impressive physically, but not so impressive BB IQ wise. Oh he scored, but his shot selection wasn't always good. Generously Al's percentage was iffy and he made Kevin McHale, about whom Bird said that passing to him in the post was like throwing the ball into a black hole, look like JKidd. Gotta learn to pass the ball Al! Sam and Tim Thomas both can score though both shot pretty badly (41%) so how many shots you want coming from them unless that improves is questionable. (sorry to all the Sam lovers out there) Cuttino will get his points, he's steady, and I think we'll see some good things from Ross and Powell, but it looks to me like it falls to Kamen to up his production considerably if the Clippers are going to make a joyful noise. On the plus side I have a good feeling about Knight and maybe Jordan(?) getting the ball to people in the right spots when given the opportunity, so maybe the team, which most of the media already has in the "crash and burn" category, will surprise some people.

david
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Yeah it's probably going to be close- e.g. Maggette ~17 or 18, Cassell 15, Mobley 13, Kaman 13, Thomas 11, Patterson 11, Thornton 9 or 10ish.... Ross will probably put up around 7 or 8, Knight 7ish, Josh Powell 4 or 5 ppg, Aaron Williams and Paul Davis 2 or 3ish.... The weird thing is if I add those #s all up I get 110+.....

clipper*joe
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I don't see anything weird about it. wink

david
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That'd be pretty darn good huh? Very Happy The key is for them to share the ball and get everyone touches- there are certain quite a few weapons still in the holsters.

JamFan
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When the showtime Lakers had all their success in the 80's, they often had 8 players averaging in double figures. It is a formula for success. We have at least 9 players who have done it before. Maggette, Kaman, Cassell, Mobley, Patterson have done it. Brand and Livingston when they return have done it. Thorton and Diaz have done it recently in college and Diaz in Europe. Lets do it again.

clipper*joe
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I agree 100% , Jamfan. The thing I like the most is that both of our 2 squads are solid veterans now with the exception of Thorton. All they have to do is learn how to play together. I think we are known more for our defense than "showtime" but the formula is right on! I think if we mesh together at season's start we would compare better with San Antonio. I am not saying we would be of that caliber (god no!) but rather a poor man's San Antonio...if you will.

dwb
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This speculation as to where the points are going to come from is fun for us as fans, but we all know that the real key to any successful effort is how we play as a team. You listen to ANY of the past winners and that's the common theme. Even those squads lead by the seemingly dominant types, be it Jordon, Bird, Magic or whoever, it was still about how they utilized their unique talents in the team context, and how they made their teammates better. Realistically, fate in the form of injury may have decreeded that we don't have the talent this season to do much in the playoffs, (contingent upon the recoveries of EB and SL) but as david points out, if the team makes use of it's weapons, and maintains a "share the ball" attitude, great things are possible. Aren't the teams that are the most enjoyable to watch the ones that look like they're having fun playing together? And typically those are the ones passing the ball, the ones where on any given night you don't know who the lead scorer might be, because it doesn't matter. I hope that's what the Clippers are this season. If Dunleavy can put a smart, hard working, unselfish team on the floor, I'm happy.

toohipcliptoslip
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I would have to say amen brothers except for a couple of things. 17-18 may be a bit low for Corey closer to 20. Also between Corey, Sam and Cat they can all have days when they're on fire. If Cayman can give a solid near double-double, I think we'll surprise a lot of people (except us of course) With no real go-to guy the team has to play as a team and make each other look good. Maybe not having one go-to will actually improve attitudes because everyone will get a piece of the pie.

JamFan
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I agree with everything said so far except for Dunleavy's offense. It is definitely old school. 80's Chicago Bulls (before Jordan). It is a slow down, walk it down the floor, set it up, pass it around, and look over at the coach before you shoot it, offense. And if you miss....well, it really sticks out. Running a Phoenix style offense, the players have more fun and the fans have more fun. You are in the doghouse if you don't shoot. This style of coaching gives all the players confidence. Every player who has come to Phoenix in the last couple of years, has scored more with a higher shooting percentage than what they had before during their career. It is a confidence game. Players know they have the green light so there isn't really any pressure. The Suns are more like the Magic Johnson Showtime Lakers. These two teams are the most fun teams to watch that I have ever seen. Dunleavy's offense, on the other hand, is slow and boring to watch. It's so slow, I could play PG for his offense.

clipper*joe
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I agree with your assessment that the Sun's & "showtime" style is and was fun to watch BUT remember, we don't have Steve Nash or Magic on our team. Steve and Magic come around every 20 yrs or so and when play, they make EVERYONE better. Steve opens the offense so wide everyone falls in. I bet Shawn, Raja, Boris and maybe Amare would not be productive if Nash wasn't there. Barbosa would still get his since he usually drives in for his.

The point is that Dunleavy is a defensive minded coach that works around the talent on the offense. EB is better posting then running the court. I agree it got kind of old but the offense goes through EB. It became stagnant once the other teams took him as a legitimated threat and started to dbl team. I see Dunleavy's offense more to the liking of the Spurs. It's a slow half court snore fest. We have to admit...it works.

bill
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tie at first

1st. Maggette

1stAl Thorton

2nd mobley

3rdPatterson

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