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Dorell Wright | Heat | Interested: Clippers?, Grizzlies? Top Email In somewhat of an unexpected move, the Heat decided to keep Carlos Arroyo on the team and guarantee his contract through the rest of the season, even though they acquired Rafer Alston. So the Heat, who still have luxury tax concerns, are likely to make a deal to dump some salary. Currently, they're $2.81 million over the luxury-tax threshold. So what's their next move? It's likely trading Dorell Wright. As ESPN's John Hollinger explains, they could trade him without having to take any player's salary back, leaving them with less luxury tax to....

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i would love for them to pick up dorrel wright. He is still very young and very able.

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He has an expiring contract which would not harm next years cap space.

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He's been disappointing with the Heat, but I suppose I would give him a shot for that price. If they pick him up and it works out, I guess it would just mean less time for Ricky and probably Thornton.

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We would have bird rights on: Dorell Wright, Craig Smith, Camby, Butler. Does anyone know if we can maintain the bird rights and then waive in the event we agree to a free agent contract with an All Star?

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i dont see a reason for picking him up...he is a player that has a similar game as Thornton and is older. The only plus to Wright is probably his passing capability but other than that he cant really shoot.

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^^^ He's actually about the same age or younger than Al. Wright came into the league directly out of high school, so although he's been around for while, he's only 24.

I checked, Al is actually about 2 years older than Wright.

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Al is 26 now, if i'm not mistaken. he's tuning 27 this year in December. i cant believe Al is this old though.

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wright is a rawer version of thornton. no thanks

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well he is 2 years younger, has never gotten legit playing time and is a much better shooter than Thornton, better rebounder, better defender and gets less to's.

Honestly how many people on here have really watched him play more than the games against the clipps?

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^^^ When he's had playing time, he's put up some numbers in spurts, but he hasn't gotten much run. He's also had some injury problems that have hampered his development... The Heat were high on him two years ago. If he's someone we bring in, who do we drop? Novak would seem to be the logical answer.

From a basketball standpoint, there doesn't seem to be much reason to bring him in. It would be about money.

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This should be a done deal if we can get a pcik out of it.

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I'd do it if we could figure out a way to get Chalmers in the deal.

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His shot looks more consistent then Al's shot. But I'm really not sure...but if we can get Chalmers in there then I'll be satisfied.

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the guy can shoot. you can never have too many shooters. but Al is stronger than this guy and grabs rebounds way better. dman there is really only ONE problem with Al. nobody take offense to this, but Al Thornton is dim-witted. the guy can get to the rim at will, which we have seen him do in very CLUTCH plays versing the 76ers at Philadelphia. he made like our last 2 or 3 shots and they were all clutch and all at teh basket. the guy is stupid. he can be a top 10 SF in the NBA if he uses even a little bit of logic and common instinct. he cannot make a jumpshot yet he shoots them. i dont see where that takes him. maybe that's what he is lacking, logic?

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Even if we cut a player when Al is healthy how man mintues does he play here.Between Butler,Thornton, and somethimes Mardy SF mintues are locked up. I'm reading he can put in some work at the 2 spot and is a strong defender.

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The deal would be to trade for Wright and then move Thornton. If Wright can produce Thornton's numbers then this is a no brainer. Come free agent time we're going to need to move Al so we might as well do it now if Wright can fill the roll.

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lol, I think you hit the nail on the head. I wouldn't have said it that way but I agree.

His problem is just that.

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Thornton's just an athlete. He's not a basketball player. He's never learned how to play the game. He's always just relied on his athletic ability.

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No way the Heat will give up Chalmers. Would be a nice back up to Baron though.

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This guy has been a bust since he came to the league...He's had a lot of oppotunities in Miami and he has never exploded. We don't need him

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I guess we will get a good look at this guy on sunday.

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he's averaging 5.2 ppg, 3rpg, ang 1 apg in about 16 minutes..

i think he could be SOME use. maybe a good thrid stringer.

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I think he would be better then Al right now

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Great avatar, clipfan619!

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Dorell wright is the next kevin durant.

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I wouldn't give anybody up for this guy. Maybe the trade exception but that's it. Dude is a project at best.

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^^ well, what they had in mind was they trade it to us for part of the trade exception and they would probably add a secound round pick, or some cash to pay for some of wrights salary. kinda what we did last year with cheick samb,

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^ Exactly. We'd get a free look at Wright plus a 2nd rounder. I don't see how this is a bad move at all.

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That was the whole point we wouldn't have to trade anyone but we would have to waive someone (Rush most likely) The Heat want to save some money from what I read so they would give him up in the same fashion we got Camby and Butler while GIVING us a pick for helping them out Heat have a tons of picks for the coming draft. I say we do this deal just for the simple fact we get a pick in a strong draft the more picks we have means more potential and that isn't a bad thing going into a offseason when we are going to have to rebuild the bench anyway.

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journeyman wrote:
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I guess we will get a good look at this guy on sunday.

Great avatar, clipfan619!

Thanks man!

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Look at what Heat fans are saying about Wright:

http://www.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic. ... p;t=975496

They like him. Says he hustles, plays D, and rebounds. Sorta like Trevor Ariza.

I see no reason why we SHOULDN'T pick this guy up.

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If you can get Dorell Wright for free, that makes Thornton expendable... You can move him for a good PG prospect... I think it would be a positive.

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My ideal situation.

  1. Snag Dorell Wright.

  2. Move Thornton to Minnesota for Sessions. The Wolves aren't to thrilled with him and could use a scorer on the wing.

  3. Move Camby for Caron Butler. Moving Camby now is the only way to build up depth for next year.

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^^^ Hooch, you are wise.

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If the wolves aren't to thrilled with him why should we be? If we lose Camby we lose a whole lot of rebounds, blocked shots and momentum changing plays he's like the glue that holds the D together we need him.

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Derty_Bert wrote:
Hooch20 wrote:
My ideal situation.

  1. Snag Dorell Wright.

  2. Move Thornton to Minnesota for Sessions. The Wolves aren't to thrilled with him and could use a scorer on the wing.

  3. Move Camby for Caron Butler. Moving Camby now is the only way to build up depth for next year.

If the wolves aren't to thrilled with him why should we be? If we lose Camby we lose a whole lot of rebounds, blocked shots and momentum changing plays he's like the glue that holds the D together we need him.

Only move Camby if we're out of contention for this year's playoffs. If we're in it, you have to go for it with our current team. If we trade Camby, even for a good wing player, we are telling the team we don't believe in them this year. Camby is the rock of this team. Can't dump him in the middle of playoff run...

Regarding Sessions, I agree with you Bert. I wanted him this summer but really watching him this season, he is so run-of-the-mill...as disappointing as Al has been, I'd still rather have him at 2.7mil than Sessions at 4mil.

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Sessions thrived with the Bucks because they had guys that could score. In Minny his numbers would be better if they had scorers. Coming out here he'd have plenty of guys to get the ball to.

I still like moving Camby now to save our depth for next year.

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TheDude wrote:
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My ideal situation.

  1. Snag Dorell Wright.

  2. Move Thornton to Minnesota for Sessions. The Wolves aren't to thrilled with him and could use a scorer on the wing.

  3. Move Camby for Caron Butler. Moving Camby now is the only way to build up depth for next year.

If the wolves aren't to thrilled with him why should we be? If we lose Camby we lose a whole lot of rebounds, blocked shots and momentum changing plays he's like the glue that holds the D together we need him.

Only move Camby if we're out of contention for this year's playoffs. If we're in it, you have to go for it with our current team. If we trade Camby, even for a good wing player, we are telling the team we don't believe in them this year. Camby is the rock of this team. Can't dump him in the middle of playoff run...

Regarding Sessions, I agree with you Bert. I wanted him this summer but really watching him this season, he is so run-of-the-mill...as disappointing as Al has been, I'd still rather have him at 2.7mil than Sessions at 4mil.

Yup, Sessions is an overpaid back-up that has a contract that will reach 4.5 to almost 5 million in his last 2 years. Telfair is doing about the same in less minutes for almost half the price.

If you lose Camby now, you can kiss a possible play-off appearance goodbye. No more future, our destiny starts right now. I am just tired of the constant changes to this team...this team is proving that these guys can play together...let them play!

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How does holding on to Camby until the end of this season necessarily hurt our depth for next year? His contract is up this season, so he is coming off the books at the end of the year and creates an open roster spot. If anything, trading Camby now for anything other than another expiring contract will give us less flexibility in the off season. If we trade Camby for Butler now, then we're basically taking ourselves out of the LeBron, etc hunt in the summer.

If we were in blow up the team mode, I could understand making some of these moves right now. But the way the team has been playing lately, I'm in favor of standing pat and seeing how things play out through the end of the season. With all the available free agents this summer, its going to be crazy and there is likely going to be a lot of player movement. So, what I'm saying is, if we still need like we need upgrades at SF and back up PG when the season ends, we'll have just as good a chance to address those needs in the off season as we do now.

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clipper*joe wrote:
TheDude wrote:
Derty_Bert wrote:
Hooch20 wrote:
My ideal situation.

  1. Snag Dorell Wright.

  2. Move Thornton to Minnesota for Sessions. The Wolves aren't to thrilled with him and could use a scorer on the wing.

  3. Move Camby for Caron Butler. Moving Camby now is the only way to build up depth for next year.

If the wolves aren't to thrilled with him why should we be? If we lose Camby we lose a whole lot of rebounds, blocked shots and momentum changing plays he's like the glue that holds the D together we need him.

Only move Camby if we're out of contention for this year's playoffs. If we're in it, you have to go for it with our current team. If we trade Camby, even for a good wing player, we are telling the team we don't believe in them this year. Camby is the rock of this team. Can't dump him in the middle of playoff run...

Regarding Sessions, I agree with you Bert. I wanted him this summer but really watching him this season, he is so run-of-the-mill...as disappointing as Al has been, I'd still rather have him at 2.7mil than Sessions at 4mil.

Yup, Sessions is an overpaid back-up that has a contract that will reach 4.5 to almost 5 million in his last 2 years. Telfair is doing about the same in less minutes for almost half the price.

If you lose Camby now, you can kiss a possible play-off appearance goodbye. No more future, our destiny starts right now. I am just tired of the constant changes to this team...this team is proving that these guys can play together...let them play!

I'm not really sure how trading Camby ends our playoff chances. Sure we lose his weak side defense and rebounding, but Griffin will play a better on ball defense, score more, and should have no problems matching Camby's rebounding. We also get much better at our weakest position.

Our future would be a lot brighter by trading Camby. By letting our contracts expire and signing a big name free agent we lose the depth that we've built up. To sign a player we'd have to renounce the rights to our free agents and after that would only be able to offer the veterans minimum to free agents. To sign a player we may also have to trade our 1st round draft pick since the pick will have about a $2 million cap hold.

If we trade Camby now, we go into the offseason at the cap. Going in at the cap enables us to keep our pick, resign our own free agents, and use of the MLE.

Sure we may sign someone, but it's a crap shoot. Wade and LeBron aren't leaving and sure as hell won't be coming here. Gay and Johnson aren't worth losing our depth and pick.

You could say it's between Gay and no depth, Johnson and no depth, or Caron along with our resigned free agents, draft pick, and MLE.

I'll take the Caron option.

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Hooch20 wrote:
clipper*joe wrote:
TheDude wrote:
Derty_Bert wrote:
Hooch20 wrote:
My ideal situation.

  1. Snag Dorell Wright.

  2. Move Thornton to Minnesota for Sessions. The Wolves aren't to thrilled with him and could use a scorer on the wing.

  3. Move Camby for Caron Butler. Moving Camby now is the only way to build up depth for next year.

If the wolves aren't to thrilled with him why should we be? If we lose Camby we lose a whole lot of rebounds, blocked shots and momentum changing plays he's like the glue that holds the D together we need him.

Only move Camby if we're out of contention for this year's playoffs. If we're in it, you have to go for it with our current team. If we trade Camby, even for a good wing player, we are telling the team we don't believe in them this year. Camby is the rock of this team. Can't dump him in the middle of playoff run...

Regarding Sessions, I agree with you Bert. I wanted him this summer but really watching him this season, he is so run-of-the-mill...as disappointing as Al has been, I'd still rather have him at 2.7mil than Sessions at 4mil.

Yup, Sessions is an overpaid back-up that has a contract that will reach 4.5 to almost 5 million in his last 2 years. Telfair is doing about the same in less minutes for almost half the price.

If you lose Camby now, you can kiss a possible play-off appearance goodbye. No more future, our destiny starts right now. I am just tired of the constant changes to this team...this team is proving that these guys can play together...let them play!

I'm not really sure how trading Camby ends our playoff chances. Sure we lose his weak side defense and rebounding, but Griffin will play a better on ball defense, score more, and should have no problems matching Camby's rebounding. We also get much better at our weakest position.

Our future would be a lot brighter by trading Camby. By letting our contracts expire and signing a big name free agent we lose the depth that we've built up. To sign a player we'd have to renounce the rights to our free agents and after that would only be able to offer the veterans minimum to free agents. To sign a player we may also have to trade our 1st round draft pick since the pick will have about a $2 million cap hold.

If we trade Camby now, we go into the offseason at the cap. Going in at the cap enables us to keep our pick, resign our own free agents, and use of the MLE.

Sure we may sign someone, but it's a crap shoot. Wade and LeBron aren't leaving and sure as hell won't be coming here. Gay and Johnson aren't worth losing our depth and pick.

You could say it's between Gay and no depth, Johnson and no depth, or Caron along with our resigned free agents, draft pick, and MLE.

I'll take the Caron option.

Blake hasn't proved his self yet. When he comes to play he won't be able to play at Cambys level he probably won't get good minutes for a few games after he plays for the first time. All of that roll of the dice and wish upon a star player won't get us any where let's see how far we can get with this team this year with who we have and build from there.

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Flynn can get the scorers involved.

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We need to keep Al as a backup next year and keep Camby because he's part of our chemistry right now and his expiring contract attracts all stars for next year. As far as Wright, he can be good insurance in case a man falls. Also isn't he from LA? Maybe he will have motivation to improve.

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Acquiring Wright at this price is an absolute no-brainer. The reason Al doesn't get on the floor is because he settles for ill-advised, off balance jumpers, he doesnt rebound very well for a player of his size and athleticism and he can't defend anybody. Wright on the other hand, has a much better jumper and defends very well and can also nearly match Al's athleticism. Adding Wright to the roster costs the team nothing except a portion of a trade exemption, we acquire an extra 2nd rounder and we just made our bench that much deeper. I believe the competition for minutes at the SF position between Butler/Thornton/Wright will cause all three to play better. As another poster mentioned he can play the 2 if needed and it gives us that much more depth/versatility if someone (Gordon/Butler/Thornton) gets injured. And you all know our history with injuries. It also gives us more trade potential at the deadline to acquire another player of need if we are in contention for a playoff spot.

This would be a very good move for the Clips and I hope we do it...

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Hooch is right... If you're worried about Griffin, don't... He's going to be a star and he's going to be very good right away... Add to that, if we really want Camby back, he could be resigned in the off-season...

This would be a huge upgrade... Remember, once Griffin comes back, Camby is going to lose at least 12 minutes a game and probably more.

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Actually, I think Camby's minutes will not change. Dun will probably rotate Camby at both PF & C when Griffin is ready to come back. I think Rhino and Jordan lose out. Knowing Dun, if we keep winning with Camby, Griffin might lose out too. Who knows...

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^^^ You could be right, and will be if Griffin comes around slowly. I think Griffin will very quickly establish himself as the real deal and within 10 or 15 games the rust will be gone and he will command 30+ minutes a game.

That's right. You heard it from me. OPTIMISM!!!

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If we are in the playoff hunt by the trade deadline, keeping Camby is definitely in our best interest. At this point, if we get D. Wright, I'd trade Thornton for a nice young PG on a rookie contract. This would help us for this season and the future. We'll have tons of caproom and our 2010 draft picks, so we really don't lose anything.

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Guys, don't forget, Dorrell Wright HAS to be traded by the deadline for Miami to avoid the luxury tax. In theory, MEM, NJN, and LAC are the only 3 teams that can absorb his contract. There's a good chance he WILL be a Clipper by the deadline.

Read Eric Pincus' twitter for more insight: http://twitter.com/EricPincus

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