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To call Paul George a one-dunk wonder would be a little bit premature, and a whole lot of wrong. True, nobody was really checking for the Fresno State forward prior to his using a late-night national TV stage to put St. Mary’s guard Mickey McConnell on the dark side of YouTube. (As the ESPN crew temporarily forgot their “announcer” voices and went back to the playground, McConnell fell, tried to get up, and fell again like he’d been caught by a Klitschko cross.) And with FSU ultimately finishing 13-21 and losing in the WAC quarterfinals, George didn’t get much attention after....

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Clipsfan21
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well im sold haha - nice find yaroslav - i could see him fitting in nicely with BG and our young core. He just turned 20 and could have more potential than any other SF in this draft.

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I like him better than some of the other wings. (Aminu, Henry)

Nice all around game.

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sounds like a good guy. I ike his stats and what i hear, plus being a local guy always helps.

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bring him home!!

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Im all for taking this guy with our pick. he has been impressive at the combine. Lets hope his stock doesnt rise any higher so we can nab him at 8.

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He's a better prospect than Aminu at SF. This guy has an all-around game. Would not be surprised when all is said and done, GS takes him 6th and leaves Aminu on the board.

I'd still prefer Wes Johnson over George but not by much.

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By the way, read what nbadraft.net has to say about him overall:

"Paul George will most likely be picked in the mid first round, due to his ability to stretch the defense with his deep range and quick release... He could be affective along side a strong point guard in the drive and dish game, as well as in transition, and can fit in nicely with teams who have big men that frequently see double teams... Strong athletes who can shoot, finish and have the potential to defend are hard to come by, and could be used by many NBA teams who lack depth at the 3 position... "

hmm...

  1. strong point guard: check (baron davis)

  2. big men that see double teams frequently: check (both kaman and griffin)

  3. lack depth at the 3 position: check

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Only thing is we don't pick mid first round, we have a lottery pick.

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I think Aminu has the most potential of all the small forward prospects, but I would probably put George right behind him at number 2. I don't think Wes Johnson has as much upside as them. He is more of a finished product than Aminu and George...

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^^^ and why would we want a finished product?... Look at how great the unfinished product of Marvin Williams has turned out to be... He remains unfinished...

I understand that a lot of players are drafted on potential... I just don't think many of those guys reach that potential. If they had the work ethic necessary to become finished products, they would already be much closer to finished products... I would stay off of athletes who don't have skills, Aminu, Whiteside and all the other Darius Miles types... Few of them end up developing...

Lebron James came in at 18... He was a finished product and has since gotten better... No drafting on potential or raw athleticism... Show me some skills then I'll know you love to play basketball.

Show me skills and I'll know you put the time in to develop those skills and most likely will continue to... Show me raw potential and I'll show you a guy who doesn't work on his game enough, and will continue not to.

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Not a bad player. Has a quick shot...reminds me of Ray Allen. He's a high flyer. And to think about it I heard Aminu really has no downtown shot so maybe George could be the one.

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I think George fits our team perfectly - as mentioned he plays well with PG's who can drive and dish (Baron Davis' game) as he can hit the outside shot - not to mention he isnt a selfish player he knows when to pass (ie. keep swinging the ball to Gordon for the 3) - best of all he can hit shots with a hand in his face - his game kind of does remind me of McGrady's (pre-injury) - moves slow but smoothly, makes the game look easy, also has good footwork.

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I haven't seen him much, but from the highlight reel, he looks a lot like Kevin Durrant... He's tall and skinny, with a quick, deadly jumper and an almost identical release and release point.

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While I still like the idea of grabbing the # 2 from Philly, if that doesn't happen, George sounds like a better idea to me than Aminu. From what I've read and seen, I really think Aminu would be Thornton 2.0.

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^^^ Based on that video, he actually looks a little more athletic than Durant. I'm not saying that means he'll be better, I'm just saying I've never seen Durant to the kind of dunks George was doing in that vid.

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What Durrant has, that according to the reports George doesn't have, is a great handle and the ability to create for himself.

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Look I really like Paul George, but I like Aminu better. He is in no way thornton 2.0. He is a completely different player. He has advanced post skills for a 3, he is a great defender, he has nice form on his jumper, he has a good handle to take it coast to coast, he has really long arms, and he is an excellent rebounder.

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I don't know much about Aminu but I think they're pretty different. From what I've read about Aminu he is long and very athletic, the kind of guy who can play the 3 or 4 depending on the lineup. Thornton was a mess. He was a PF in college, but wasn't big enough to play the position in the pros. I didn't think he had the body to play the 3 spot either, and he didn't have the handles to play the 2 spot.

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sz123456 wrote:
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While I still like the idea of grabbing the # 2 from Philly, if that doesn't happen, George sounds like a better idea to me than Aminu. From what I've read and seen, I really think Aminu would be Thornton 2.0.

I don't know much about Aminu but I think they're pretty different. From what I've read about Aminu he is long and very athletic, the kind of guy who can play the 3 or 4 depending on the lineup. Thornton was a mess. He was a PF in college, but wasn't big enough to play the position in the pros. I didn't think he had the body to play the 3 spot either, and he didn't have the handles to play the 2 spot.

Dude that is the same story for Aminu. He's a very athletic PF. He's not a SF, at least not yet. The guy was 18-66 from 3 all year so he did take about 2 per game but made only 27%. Last year he was 7-39, 18% for the season. Those stats from college show a guy that should not even take 3's in the NBA. He gets all his points in transition and from offensive rebounds. This is a guy without a position. He'll be an energy guy in the NBA, that's not a bad piece to have but it does not fill our needs. We already have the ultimate energy guy in BG...

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True that Mays. Give me a guy with some skills, especially at wing positions. I don't have as much problem drafting a big with "potential". Much easier to develop a post game in the NBA than a perimeter game. You want to play the 3, you better have some skill coming in. We don't have that kind of time to sit around waiting for Aminu to hopefully develop a handle and 3point shot. It's the #8 pick. We need to get a guy that can contribute immediately....I'll take "defensive upside" with a guy like Aminu with the 48th pick, not the #8.

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^^^ yep... I want somebody who can already shoot, not somebody who has to learn it... Many guys never learn to shoot... I coach high school basketball. My son and daughter are and were both great shooters at the high school level. They started learning the proper way to shoot by age 5... I know how to teach shooting and I've had a lot of kids come through, but very, very rarely have I made a good shooter out of a poor one... I've helped players improve their shooting, but all the really good shooters I've ever had, came to me as very good shooters by the time they were 14... Obviously, they got better still as their legs got stronger, etc... but they were already ahead of the pack...

Remember Darius Miles... We all said, wow when he learns to shoot and handle the ball, he's gonna be amazing... Well, we're still waiting. Same with Marvin Williams and almost all the rest of them... I'll bet there aren't many in the history of the NBA who entered as poor shooters and left as good ones... Darrell Griffith for the Utah Jazz comes to mind...

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come on, we cant compare him to Kevin Durant, he averaged over 30 ppg in college. He looks good but Aminu is a great defender and rebounder

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how is Georges defense and rebounding skills?

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Didn't mean to suggest George was the next Durrant... He just looks like him in the way he plays the game... The problem with Aminu is that he's a PF/SF type, slasher, defender with limited shooting ability from the perimeter... To go with Griffin, Kaman and Baron, we specifically need a shooter/creator type SF... Someone who can knock down shots... George is that kind of player. Aminu isn't... Aminu might end up being the better player, but he's more like Thornton than the kind of SF we need.

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Based off of need, I think George fits out mold better than Aminu. Aminu may turn out to be the better player long term but George fills a need we have now. We need more athletic outside shooters.

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I have no problem with a finished product. The dilemma is, do you take the finished product who is a very good player, or the younger and more raw player, who has a superstar type of ceiling? The answer all depends on the team's situation, and the individual's own subjective opinion.

I like Wes Johnson a lot. He's got a lot of skills, his ceiling just probably isn't quite as high as Aminu or George. I think Johnson has a high ceiling, and could be an all star caliber of player. I don't think Johnson is going to be an option for us, unless we trade up. Aminu, George, Hayward, and Babbitt are likely going to be our small forward options. There is a very good chance that Aminu won't even be an option for us.

That's really not true about raw potential. Just because someone enters the league raw, does not mean that they don't work hard. It might mean that in some instances, but it could be that the player hasn't been playing the game long, or just hasn't had good coaching. Some guys just can't make the adjustment to the NBA level of basketball, and they work hard and just can't get much better. Big men for instance, just don't get the coaching at the amateur level like they used to.

Aminu does have skills, they just aren't as advanced as Wes Johnson, who is a few years older than Aminu. I bet that Johnson was not as good as Aminu at the same age. Darius Miles had skills out the wazoo, but he didn't work hard enough to continue to improve them. Everybody has to improve when they come to the NBA, and some kids just can't do it. Some kids get that paycheck and get complacent. Some guys work their butts off and can't get over the hump.

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He's a good defender, and could become an elite defender. He's a solid rebounder. At the 3, I think he'll average 6 to 8 rebounds per game. He is a very willing rebounder.

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Latest Draft Express tweet on Paul George:

Tough not to watch Paul George work out and not come away impressed. He's just oozing with talent already & has so much room to grow still.

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I think we differ on this... Miles had athletecism out the wazoo... His skills were minimal and remained so for his entire career... I tend to think that by the time a player is 19 it's a pretty good indicator of who he will be... If he hasn't worked hard on his shooting and is a poor shooter, he probably always will be. If he doesn't have a good handle or see the floor well, he probably never will. If he doesn't defend, he'll likely never be a good defender...

That said, players do get better at those things and improve over time. Poor shooters can become marginal shooters, etc... And, of course, there are some exceptions, but they are rare...

Think about all the bigs, athletes like Dalembert and others who coaches said, "Once he learns to play with his back to the basket, he's going to be amazing." Most of those guys, like Dalembert, leave the NBA without being able to play with his back to the basket. If Dalembert wanted to play with his back to the basket, he would have developed at least some of those skills BEFORE he was drafted... If a player wanted to be a shooter, and had a good work ethic, he would have been throwing up 500 shots a day for the last five years and he'd be a pretty solid shooter by 19... T. Prince has terrible mechanics, but he's practiced hard enough to overcome his poor mechanics to a degree.

The mechanics of shooting are universal and pretty simple... There are plenty of guys who teach it well at the AAU level, who will work with these players for free. All of them played AAU ball.

There are three reasons why a guy can't shoot.

1) Poor mechanics. You'd be amazed how many of these kids don't want to abandon their flawed mechanics and do things right simply because it feels uncomfortable at first. I've worked with lots of them. They're just not willing to take two steps back so they can take ten steps forward.

2) They have no interest in the boring work of taking 500 shots a day by themselves while concentrating on making each shot perfect mechanically. Perfect bridge, shoulders square, ball off the palm, proper follow through. Players with this flaw are also bad news because they don't want to work the details of the game and that's what leads to improvement. They've lived off their athletecism so long, they think that's enough and they're laze.

3) Even with proper mechanics, they just don't have the coordination or depth perception to become good shooters... Like watching Shaq at the foul line... He's had plenty of guys work with him. He's practiced plenty. He knows the mechanics... He just can't do them to provide the right touch and never will. That crap about his hands being too big is a load of bull...

NBA projects seldom work. Aminu may well end up being a good player, but if he isn't a very good shooter now, I doubt he ever will be. And we are desperate for a shooter at the 3.

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Im on board lets get Durant super-lite

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New idea trade down to Memphis and get the 12th and 25th Get George and Lance Stephenson

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Darius Miles had skills out the wazoo, but he didn't work hard enough to continue to improve them.

I think we differ on this... Miles had athletecism out the wazoo... His skills were minimal and remained so for his entire career... I tend to think that by the time a player is 19 it's a pretty good indicator of who he will be... If he hasn't worked hard on his shooting and is a poor shooter, he probably always will be. If he doesn't have a good handle or see the floor well, he probably never will. If he doesn't defend, he'll likely never be a good defender...

That said, players do get better at those things and improve over time. Poor shooters can become marginal shooters, etc... And, of course, there are some exceptions, but they are rare...

Think about all the bigs, athletes like Dalembert and others who coaches said, "Once he learns to play with his back to the basket, he's going to be amazing." Most of those guys, like Dalembert, leave the NBA without being able to play with his back to the basket. If Dalembert wanted to play with his back to the basket, he would have developed at least some of those skills BEFORE he was drafted... If a player wanted to be a shooter, and had a good work ethic, he would have been throwing up 500 shots a day for the last five years and he'd be a pretty solid shooter by 19... T. Prince has terrible mechanics, but he's practiced hard enough to overcome his poor mechanics to a degree.

The mechanics of shooting are universal and pretty simple... There are plenty of guys who teach it well at the AAU level, who will work with these players for free. All of them played AAU ball.

There are three reasons why a guy can't shoot.

1) Poor mechanics. You'd be amazed how many of these kids don't want to abandon their flawed mechanics and do things right simply because it feels uncomfortable at first. I've worked with lots of them. They're just not willing to take two steps back so they can take ten steps forward.

2) They have no interest in the boring work of taking 500 shots a day by themselves while concentrating on making each shot perfect mechanically. Perfect bridge, shoulders square, ball off the palm, proper follow through. Players with this flaw are also bad news because they don't want to work the details of the game and that's what leads to improvement. They've lived off their athletecism so long, they think that's enough and they're laze.

3) Even with proper mechanics, they just don't have the coordination or depth perception to become good shooters... Like watching Shaq at the foul line... He's had plenty of guys work with him. He's practiced plenty. He knows the mechanics... He just can't do them to provide the right touch and never will. That crap about his hands being too big is a load of bull...

NBA projects seldom work. Aminu may well end up being a good player, but if he isn't a very good shooter now, I doubt he ever will be. And we are desperate for a shooter at the 3.

clearly you have no idea about Aminu because he is a hard worker and has been working really hard on his jumper since declaring. He is exactly what this team needs. Look, if we draft a SF, we will draft him as a guy off the bench. why? because we're trying to get one of LBJ, joe johnson, or rudy gay. getting aminu to be one of the first off the bench would be great because he is a very good defender who can guard the 2,3, AND 4 very well. Also, he is a great offensive and defensive rebounder. remember how we got killed on the boards last year? and remember how having thornton and his terrible rebounding for a SF killed us on the boards? Also, you remember how his bad defense killed us? well guess what? al-farouq aminu would fix all of that. he hustles, he plays defense, he rebounds, he plays well in the post although he is a SF, and he has really nice form on his jumper, which signals that with time, he will eventually be a weapon shooting the ball. You can't teach what this kid already has, but you can improve what he is weak at: shooting. This kid is VERY coachable and I would love to draft him so that we could have a young nucleus of players that can be coached in the way that thunder players can be coached.

heres an article to show his potential shooting ability and work ethic:

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West Coast Workout Swing Part 2: Al-Farouq Aminu in Los Angeles

May 16, 2010

Joseph Treutlein

The fifth-ranked player on our latest mock draft, Al-Farouq Aminu’s biggest selling points have always been his elite physical tools, his strong work ethic, his versatility on both ends of the floor, and his massive upside. Shooting ability is not something many would list among his strengths, which is why the work he’s putting in here is so important. While it’s hard to take away anything definitively from a single workout only three days into his pre-draft training, what we saw here was very impressive, and a great sign for the likelihood he reaches his tremendous potential down the road.

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An inconsistent shooter in college (18/66 beyond the arc on the season and 0.610 points per jump shot according to Synergy Sports Technology), Aminu always showed flashes of ability with his shot, but definitely lacked some polish, which showed in the results. Here, Aminu has tweaked a few things with his shot, focusing on getting more consistent mechanics, the biggest emphasis being the balance he gets his base for his shooting motion, something he did a great job displaying here. Keeping his elbow in and maintaining full extension have also been points of emphasis, both of which he also did well here. Time was spent working on both mid-range jumpers from the 15-20 foot range and from behind the arc, with pull-up and spot-up jumpers both being used from the mid-range.

For the shots we tracked, Aminu shot a solid 16-for-31 from NBA three-point range, and 69-for-99 on spot-up jumpers from 15-20 feet, showing impressive mechanics and touch throughout, having a high and consistent release with a good base and excellent elevation. It was easy to notice how well Aminu responds to coaching, with his eyes always dead set on Hopla and Leitao when they spoke, absorbing everything while giving 100% for the entire three hours.

Aside from his shooting, Aminu impressed in other ways as well, namely by showing off his excellent athleticism in transition drills. Catching a rebound on one end, Aminu looked completely natural putting the ball on the floor and taking it for a lay-up on the other end, doing it in just three dribbles every time, giving you an idea how much ground he is capable of quickly covering. Aminu’s body in general was also impressive as expected, and not something he needs much work on, with core training being the primary emphasis of his strength work at this stage as his body continues to naturally fill out.

Aminu’s work here is geared primarily toward making him a more complete player, with the specific work he’s doing likely to ease the transition to the small forward position should a team want to play him there. He certainly has the versatility to play either the 3 or the 4 with his outstanding defensive tools, but if he can really step up his shooting as he did here today while also continuing to refine his ball-handling skills, his best long-term potential likely lies at the small forward spot.

Aminu isn’t scheduling workouts until after the lottery drawing next week, and will continue to stay in Los Angeles working on his game in between workouts up until the draft. At only 19 years old, despite being a sophomore, Aminu is just 15 days older than John Wall and 38 days older than DeMarcus Cousins, which is another reason why many consider his upside to be so high. Unlikely to fall out of the top 10, Aminu should get plenty of looks early in the lottery and could definitely help himself with some good team workouts, especially if he keeps on improving during his training.

Interview with Al-Farouq Aminu

Jim Hlavac: How are the workouts going so far?

Al-Farouq Aminu: They've been going good. I've really been able to work on my shot and my handle and things like that.

JH: What has it been like working with the legendary shooting coach, Dave Hopla? What he has worked on with you?

AA: He's been working on my technique. Making sure I get my arm up, getting my elbow at my eyebrow. And he's really been helping me with my jump shot.

JH: Overall, how are the workouts different here then they were in college?

AA: It's just more attention to detail. It's not just “get the shot up”, its make sure you stay low, make sure you get your hand up, make sure you finish.

JH: We just saw you work out for three hours. What's your average day like here at workouts?

AA: We go three hours in the morning and then we come back and do another three.

JH: Any strength training or weight room stuff?

AA: Yeah we do that at night. We do our core workout and a little bit of resistance, just some pushups and things like that.

JH: You could have been a top-10 pick last year. What made you come back to Wake Forest?

AA: I really wanted to play another year with my point guard and also I wanted to get another year of school in, get closer to graduating and become a better player.

JH: Do you feel that you accomplished those goals at Wake Forest?

AA: Yeah, I feel I did.

JH: Are you planning on going back to school to get your degree?

AA: Yeah that's something that Mom and Dad want and I want to make sure that I can have a diploma up in my office.

JH: You played some three and some four in college. What do you see yourself playing in the NBA?

AA: I just want to be a complete basketball player wherever they put me. I just want to excel.

JH: We saw you work mostly as a three today. Do you think you will be able to play some four in the NBA?

AA: I think I have to gain a little weight but yeah I think I could do both.

JH: What are you looking to improve on in the next week here?

AA: Ball-handling and shooting.

JH: Your shooting looked much improved from what I saw.

AA: Yeah I've really been working on it. Hopla has made a big improvement to it.

JH: What's the biggest adjustment you think you will have to make going from college to the pros.

AA: I think shooting.

JH: Do you see yourself as somebody who is ready to start in the NBA?

AA: I think I could start on some teams.

JH: Which player in the NBA do you think that you resemble?

AA: I've heard I play like Luol Deng

JH: Who do you watch in the NBA to pattern your game after and try to get better?

AA: I watch everybody. I watch guards, big men, slashers, everybody.

JH: Have you scheduled any workouts with NBA teams yet?

AA: No not yet.

JH: Well, we will conclude it with that and say good luck to you and we'll see you in the Green Room.

AA: Thanks.

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^^^ He sounds like a good guy... Still, he shot .27 percent from three point range in college... he has a long way to go... I never said he was a bad player or wasn't going to be an NBA player... I just don't think he'll be the NBA player that we need at the SF, which is one who can stretch the defense for Griffin and Kaman and be a player on the perimeter that Baron can kick the ball out to and consistently nail the three... There are choices that would fit our team needs better.

As far as needing more rebounding, I'm counting on Griffin to take care of much of that.

As far as bringing in Lebron, Johnson or Gay well, I'll believe and count on that when I see it. We need a SF who is ready to start because I don't think we're getting Lebron. Gay's offer can be matched by the Grizzlies, who certain will match unless we drastically overpay him, which would be a mistake. As far as Joe Johnson goes, he's a natural SG, capable of playing SF... He's older than we want to bring in...

If we're going to be successful, I think we need to turn out # 8 into someone who helps us become a better shooting team immediately.

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^^^nice, that means he is gone before the 8th pick if he has shown improvement. Sad

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The only problem I have with Paul George is his focus during games. Scouting reports from draft express talk about his weaknesses:

On the other hand, George averages the same amount of turnovers a game as he does assists. He can be very nonchalant with the basketball at times and tries to make spectacular passes on occasion when only a simple pass is needed. That nonchalant nature is consistent with his personality, which has raised questions about his on court effort. He tends to coast at times, just running up and down the court without great energy and not showing a real disposition to dominate the fairly weak competition he plays against in the WAC, something that obviously won’t cut it in the NBA.

As a defender, George has all the tools to be very solid on this side of the ball, but hasn’t fully put it all together just yet. He comes out of his stance too often and is unaware at times of his opponent’s strengths " backing off of a shooter or caroling a driver, suggesting he needs to pay more attention to scouting reports. Despite that, his length, anticipatory skills and quick hands have made George one of the nation’s leaders in steals, collecting over 2 a game.

^The main thing that worries me is that he isnt dedicated on defense letting guys just go by him. But, yes, he does have the skills to be great on defense, but does he have the dedication on defense to actually do it. Al Thornton had the potential to be great on defense, but basically every time we faced a decent SF, they burned him, and it wasnt a matter that he couldnt, just look when he went to washington and the first game against denver he basically shut carmelo down...this shows its a matter of will on defense, not just athleticism or length. Furthermore, we got to look at the part that goes completely against the title of this thread. It shows he just takes consecutive plays off on both the defensive and offensive end. That can be just a minor thing but im not sure because i havent been able to see him play. But it can also be as bad as Kaman and kill us in many games.

The kid has great athleticism, a pretty good/quick shot (id rank it just below wes johnson's shot), and has length on defense. But if he is lackadaisical while playing in a league where he towers over other players at the 3 position giving him little competition in games, that can be scary. If he was driven and competitive he would take over those games and win. He has all the tools to do it! At this point IMHO Aminu looks to be like the more self-driven and competitive player. And that can make the difference between a ok/decent player and a great player. I say we take aminu if he is still on the board at 8 and if not then paul george is a no brainer to pick.

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There was recently had an article on how George is a work horse so this is confusing.

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Yeah idk I think I trust the scouting reports on him more than the article in dime mag. I kno he is probably working out a ton right now, like at the combine, but the stuff on draftexpress is from scouts that are looking at his game while he is playing it. He might think he is working nonstop but how he actually looks on the court might be the complete opposite at times.

I really think he has a better chance as really being a good player in the league that can really score and defend, but it is the question of whether or not he is competitive enough and driven enough to do it.

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I really think shooting is our #1 priority. Our outside shooting was horrible and Aminu doesnt really cut it on the shooting front.

A trade down and picking up Paul George might work well, but whoever we get they need to be able to shoot.

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Henry. That's who our gunslinger should be.

clipperboy24
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^^^ the only thing is i dont think Henry can play the 3 and thas where we need a shooter

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markcronan wrote:
clipperboy24 wrote:
I really think shooting is our #1 priority. Our outside shooting was horrible and Aminu doesnt really cut it on the shooting front.

A trade down and picking up Paul George might work well, but whoever we get they need to be able to shoot.

Henry. That's who our gunslinger should be.

I would have no problem with Henry. He can shoot, and he's a better athlete than people think.

His future may be best at the 2, but I think he can play the 3. He's 6'6 1/2" in shoes. I think he has a lot of upside...

Luke Babbitt is another guy who has shown more athleticism than people thought. He can also shoot well. He's a guy that I think we might have to consider...

Aminu is not quite as athletic as I thought he would be.

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I believe he can. He's only 1/2" shorter than Al Thornton. Henry actually has a 1" standing reach advantage over Al.

clipperboy24
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here aresome interesting results from the shooting combine today (relatively small sample size):

http://www.nbadraft.net/nba-draft-combi ... ll-results

George was up there on most shooting exercises.

Hayward's stats also looked impressive and so did bledsoe, Henry, and especially Mikhail torrance. If we can pick that guy up he looks very promising.

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Cliptonyte wrote:
clipperboy24 wrote:
^^^ the only thing is i dont think Henry can play the 3 and thas where we need a shooter

I believe he can. He's only 1/2" shorter than Al Thornton. Henry actually has a 1" standing reach advantage over Al.

he is definitely really light at 210 as well.

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clipperboy24 wrote:
Cliptonyte wrote:
clipperboy24 wrote:
^^^ the only thing is i dont think Henry can play the 3 and thas where we need a shooter

I believe he can. He's only 1/2" shorter than Al Thornton. Henry actually has a 1" standing reach advantage over Al.

he is definitely really light at 210 as well.

I believe that's heavier than Rasual Butler. Henry could probably carry 220lbs or so. There are a lot of small forwards in the 210-225lb. range.

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Thanks for the link buddy : )

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Paul is lookin good he keeps this up... we might not get a shot at him...

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