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Coaching carousel: Latest buzz LOS ANGELES CLIPPERS Rumblings persist that Charlotte Bobcats coach Larry Brown has not abandoned his interest in returning to Clipperland for a second stint. Sources say that the Clippers have likewise not abandoned hope of re-hiring Brown, despite equally persistent rumblings that Clippers owner Donald Sterling does not want to spend on a top-tier coach like Brown. Other names in circulation in connection with the Clippers’ opening include holdover assistant coaches Tony Brown and John Lucas and Milwaukee Bucks assistant coach Kelvin Sampson, who recruited Blake Griffin in college, coached Eric Gordon collegiately and has worked with Baron Davis....

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That definitely does not make me feel too secure. I'm ok with hiring Brown back, but I have varying degrees of reservations about all the rest of the guys mentioned in that blurb. Sure, its nice Sampson has ties to some of our players, but given the way he got run out of Indiana and his lack of pro experience, I would not consider that a good hire. I definitely would not want Mike Brown.

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^he got run out of indiana for making calls at wrong times to players to recruit....its not that ridiculous of a thing to do but he still got suspended from the NCAA. I would much rather have someone the guys would buy into than someone like mike brown or even larry brown. He always seems to be unstable, wanting to build up a team and then just leave. NO THANK YOU! i want there to finally be some stability for this team.

clipperboy24
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Agree 100%. I think Larry Brown leaves right when his stock is the highest. Not what we need if we want to build a winning team that will last.

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that's why mark jackson is the best choice.

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^there is recently a little article that shows how mark jackson has no idea what constitutes having a high basketball IQ and what is just rudimentary basketball logic. lol

kinda makes me question his coaching ability.

http://www.clipsnation.com/2010/6/4/150 ... quick-rant

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My vote for Vinnie Del Negro

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I hate to say this but I've seen guys forget about the shot clock in those situations and if they didn't get it off in time, they'd forced the ball up with very little regard to accuracy. What Steve is doing is taking the LITERAL term of IQ and trying to apply it to the loose term of BB IQ.

Sorry to say but all rules and regulations in the NBA are rudimentary. It's what you do within those rules that gives you the higher or lower I.Q.

...Steve should know that.

The whole thing was made all the more laughable by the fact that, when you think about it, we have very little evidence that Kobe in fact did know the clock. He got the ball and he shot. Um, that's pretty much what he does.

There is a few seconds on the clock, Kobe gets the ball with a few seconds, pulls a move to get the open shot within those seconds and makes it.

If there is any player that has that awareness in the league, it has to be Kobe. I don't know, second guessing the best clutch player in the league is weak. And trying to debunk it without any proof when the action spoke louder than his words is even weaker.

Seems Steve don't "likey" MJ. I think his article reeks of bitterness and is based on pure assumption and emotion with very little thought put into it.

What steve also forgets is that they are there to color commentate. They are there to make it exciting for the viewer.

Time for a chill pill.

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Monty Williams accepted the Hornets headcoaching job. Tom Thibodeau accepted the Bulls headcoaching job but it won't be anounced until after the finals so we won't get him.

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clipper*joe wrote:
jcdigital wrote:
^there is recently a little article that shows how mark jackson has no idea what constitutes having a high basketball IQ and what is just rudimentary basketball logic. lol

kinda makes me question his coaching ability.

http://www.clipsnation.com/2010/6/4/150 ... quick-rant

I hate to say this but I've seen guys forget about the shot clock in those situations and if they didn't get it off in time, they forced the ball up with very little regard to accuracy. What Steve is doing is taking the LITERAL term of IQ and trying to apply it to the loose term of BB IQ.

Sorry to say but all rules and regulations in the NBA are rudimentary. It's what you do within those rules that gives you the higher or lower I.Q.

...Steve should know that.

The whole thing was made all the more laughable by the fact that, when you think about it, we have very little evidence that Kobe in fact did know the clock. He got the ball and he shot. Um, that's pretty much what he does.

There is a few seconds on the clock, Kobe gets the ball with a few seconds, pulls a move to get the open shot within those seconds and makes it.

If there is any player that has that awareness in the league, it has to be Kobe. I don't know, second guessing the best clutch player in the league is weak. And trying to debunk it without any proof when the action spoke louder than his words is even weaker.

Seems Steve don't "likey" MJ. I think his article reeks of bitterness and is based on pure assumption and emotion with very little thought put into it.

What steve also forgets is that they are there to color commentate. They are there to make it exciting for the viewer.

Time for a chill pill.

Perrin is on a crusade against Mark Jackson. That was the first article that is completely obvious but every other coaching prospects posts he's done have included a review that essentially says "Mark Jackson is a moron."

I don't know if he's a moron but I would agree with him that the guy almost never says anything intellectual or insightful. A lot of the time, he doesn't say anything at all for long periods of time. Why is that?...

I honestly think it's because Van Gundy is so far ahead of him in basketball knowledge that he bites his tongue much of the time.

the guy reminds me of the worst announcer still employed, Stu Jackson...with all his slowmotion talking and mancrushing on Kobe.

I'd pay Van Gundy 10mil per year before paying Mark Jackson 2mil. SVG had those Knick teams going toe to toe year after year against one of the greatest teams of all time. Proven commodity. A true winner. Too bad he's to smart to take a job working for Sterling.

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Here is Mark Jackson's POV on his inexperience as a coach and how it shouldnt keep him from getting a job.

http://nba.fanhouse.com/2010/06/05/mark ... ching-job/

clipperboy24
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interesting read. i think he would be a good fit. I also think Mike Woodson would be an interesting pickup for the clippers.

mainly i just dont want Mike Brown, Del Negro, or Danny Ferry anywhere near the franchise.

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and btw the Cav's have interest in Kelvin Sampson supposedly....there goes another guy we are looking at -_- clips need to pick it up on the coaching search or no one will be left.

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Kelvin Sampson couldn't control the IU kids when Gordon was there, remember his rookie year when he was tellin that the other players did drugs and it was disfunctional. I say nay. I like Jackson though he knows what he wants and what he's talking about. Did yall know that Mark Jackson and Escalade from AND1 mixtapes are brothers?

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^wait wasnt kelvin sampson kicked out like in the beginning of EJ's freshman season?? and btw i did not know that, THAT IS SICK! maybe he can Escalade can come in and show the guys some moves if Jackson is hired lol, but then again, that might lead to all our players show boating, massive amounts of T.O.s and getting called for carry over and double dribbles all day long LMAO!

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I think he was fired EJ's rookie year and EJ left for the NBA after his freshman year in college.

JamFan
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Larry Brown owns a home in Malibu and coming to the Clippers at a time that a turn around is imminent would be a good opportunity for him. However, reports are that he just might actually return to Charlotte but is holding out for Michael Jordan to do.........something that he wants in return for his signing on for another year. Micheal reportedly wants him back, but it is unclear exactly what Larry is asking for. It could be a player move.

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Mark Jackson/ Byron Scott!

Clippersfan86
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I'm with Miguel that Vinny Del Negro would be the best fit for sure. Why? His most recent team was similar in the sense that it was a team with a bunch of young,talented and injury plagued players and he got them from being one of the worst defensive teams in the league to one of the top. He is a players coach. He talks to players and leads but also encourages and lets them play. Vinny would turn our team around alot.

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The Cavs offered Tom Izzo the head coaching job seem like they just want a collge coach.

clipperboy24
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i dont think Vinny would be a good pick up at all. He has a very talented team and could still barely in in the weak east.

Avery Johnson/Byron Scott/Dwyane Casey/ Mark Jackson seems, to me, like the best options.

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The list of coaches are getting thicker... several Clipper players are telling management to hire him... I'll welcome him if he's the next head coach, he can't be worse than Mike Dunleavy...

SamMays
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^^^ Be careful what you say... It can be a lot worse than Dunleavy... We had a taste of it the last third of the season with Kim Hughes. This is a very important hire and just grabbing anyone and considering it a relief, is not the way to handle it. And just because it's someone the players want, doesn't make it good... Most players have no clue what it takes to put them together.

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^I think kelvin sampson will be able to do something right away that dunleavy couldnt.....be heard by our players. That alone can build chemistry and get guys on track. And i to think we do need to be smart about our decision cuz u said it exactly...it can get alot worse than dunleavy. But i like the idea of Sampson, Elston turner, dwayne casey, and im not 100% sure about mark Jackson mainly cuz he has NEVER COACHED BEFORE!

And idk about Avery Johnson anymore, he seems like he wants way too much control the team that hires him. But who knows, he still does have great playoff experience as a coach.

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Avery is a control freak. That is why his players pulled a mutiny on his arse. Avery might have had a good play-off record but Don Nelson built that team. If our guys tuned out Dun, they will surely do it to Avery....

SamMays
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Avery Johnson has gone from interview to interview for the last couple of years and not gotten hired... Probably with good reason.

clipperboy24
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clipper*joe wrote:
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And idk about Avery Johnson anymore, he seems like he wants way too much control the team that hires him. But who knows, he still does have great playoff experience as a coach.

Avery is a control freak. That is why his players pulled a mutiny on his arse. Avery might have had a good play-off record but Don Nelson built that team. If our guys tuned out Dun, they will surely do it to Avery....

it definitely seems to be that way. with that in mind i think he might not be a great fit. I dont think he belongs anywhere in the executive office either.

We need someone who the players will respct and if they dont then will command their respect (baron)

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i dont think avery johson and byron scott are the answer we need coach that has a system that work but also gives the players a little freedom

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The Nets just hired him. I'm starting to wonder if we're losing out on the top coaches.

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It's all but assured the top coaches have crossed out Sterling -I mean, the Clippers, off their list.

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there is a video on nba.com, that Avery was going to meet with the clippers next week, but decided that he wanted to stay with the Nets

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i think the assistant from the bucks would be a good fit... not because some clipper players want him but just look at the bucks record... they made it to the playoffs with a worser team then the clippers...im preaty sure the assistant had to do something with that... Gordon was one of the players that wanted him to be the coach.. IM preaty sure gordon is tired of loosing and maybe sees him as a coach that can turn the team around....

thats a thinker.....

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It was gonna be tough signing a great coach with them knowing sterlings track record with how he settles contracts.. there was only so much he can do to try and prove he's changed...

Lucky for us he gave all the coaches another reason to not consider the clippers unless it was the very last option for them..

clipperboy24
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Mark jackson might fit in well and be willing to deal with Sterling since he is a rookie coach.

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Mark Jackson cannot coach...

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there is no better place to learn that than la.. with the clippers that is..

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I agree, I think Kelvin Sampson might be a good fit cuz he has always taken teams and got them to over achieve. And that is exactly what we need!

btw some tweets from lisa dillman:

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Not going out on limb to say Clippers' cast of characters (do we mean characters) will require someone w/actual past coaching experience.

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Clippers have six more coming in for workout tomorrow. Another six early next week. Meanwhile no interviews for coaching job skedded yet.

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btw found this when looking at stuff on mark jackson

http://nba.fanhouse.com/2010/06/10/hawk ... by-monday/

clipperboy24
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very informed and well rounded and backed up opinion.

clipperboy24
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Larry Drew just got signed by Atlanta. That leaves us and the Cavs as the main teams looking for a new coach.

SamMays
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I got to meet Larry Drew at a camp last summer... He could end up being a great choice for them. You could tell even then that he was aching for the head job so he could do things his way.

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