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TheClipShow
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After reading Eric's analysis of our off season I feel a little better. It seems that we at least have a plan, even if it doesnt seem like the greatest plan, at least we have one. Seems like Olshey is being cautious, but at least he is thinking so thats good!

We do NOT want Al Harrington - he can score in bunches yes, but the way he scores is not what we want. Al Harrington is a ME first player. If you have ever watched the Knicks or Warriors (where he was the last 4 years) you would see how he takes his shots. He would be a liability playing in any other system than NYK or GSW. He is used to those systems where it is if you are open at all just shoot. The numbers in GSW and NYK are always inflated due to amount of possessions.

I think a couple solid signings would be ideal compared to an Al Harrington singing. He is not the right fit for this team.

Greenmonk94
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idk about this one..

i think he can be taught to take the right shot and pass the ball..

its just becuse in that system he was not told him to stop shooting.. i think.. if he would come over here.. he would have more discipline

TheClipShow
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Eric just posted on another thread he plays "less than zero D". Just because a player came out and said "I want to play for a winner" doesnt mean he actually cares about that. Al jus said the politically correct thing to say and that is what any player has to say.

He hasnt been on many winning teams and is on the downslope of his career, not the upswing. I want players who play effort on both sides on the ball, not only when they have it in their hands. He is a great athlete and has all the skills to be better than he is now, he just doesnt want to be. Plenty of players have the ability but dont put in the total effort, I believe Al falls into that club.

You want strong veteran leadership, not guys who have been on losing teams their whole career and have liked being the best on the worst so they could get their stats. Nothing personal I just dont like him for this team.

clipperboy24
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Al harrington IMO would fit in fine. He has been in bad situations on nearly every team and his defense is much better than Eric has stated. Watch footage of KNicks games and you will see heis not horrible, the whole team mentality is play no D. The warriors werent any better. He i a good player and for $7 million would be a great fit for our team.

RJ woul also be a nice fit for that amount. Sign either of them to 3 year $21-23 million deals and it will be a good decision. Right now, our team is very questionable, especially with Baron at the helm and gomes as the starting SF

Miquel
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At least he would be a better option than Gomes although I can agree he's not the perfect pick.

clipper*joe
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I have to agree with you there. Of course he isn't going to play superb D, he's been coached by D'Antoni and Nelson...The most non concerned defensive coaches in the league. Plus, Harrington was brought in both places to be a scorer, not a defensive Juggernaut.

emplay
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i was joking when I said less than zero D - but the point remains the same - I don't see how he fits the age group, culture and general idea of where this team is going.

Gomes - if he gets bumped out of the starting lineup cause the Clippers make a trade - he'll work just as hard off the bench.

Al - he'll sulk and/or ask for a trade, etc.

TheClipShow
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Eric, I agree with you - I have watched NYK (due to fantasy basketball reasons) and I loved him as a fantasy player, but thats it. He is not a good player for an actual team, he is a stat thief.

I have come to grips with the signings in the last week. Mostly because I have to, but I just feel like we deserve better and that the FO can do sooo much better. Al Jefferson might not be great, Beasley might not be either, but it seems that teams are giving these players away and I would like to see us out there and making moves. We have cap space and now is the time to use it.

Greenmonk94
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i may be crazy but i guess we might just have to stick with gomes... hes not horrible and he aint great.. good enough to play d and make a couple of open shots.. who on his last team really got double teamed.... i think he would do beter with us becuse we have more threats to double team and he will find his game come to him easier here..

clipperboy24
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Al played very well off the bench last year considering he only started 15 games and came of the bench for 57 and he didnt demand a trade last year even though NY was terrible. He also averaged less than 2 TO/game which is a great stat.

I think we have a case of the past and circumstances affecting the perception more than is reasonable. NY was a joke and GS was a joke for the most part. Yeah the team had the one good year but that was only when Baron decided it was convenient for him to play hard and win.

pageC4
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He doesn't fit the age group true, but neither do Chris Kaman and Baron Davis. I've said before that the front office needs to commit to either building a young team that will contend in four years or add free agents to make a push now. If we decide to go young then we have no reason to keep Chris Kaman and Baron Davis. At best this team is like a 34 win team. We know that Kaman is going to crank out about 19PPG, 8RPG and Baron will put out 15PPG and 8APG, but that's not enough for a playoff push.

We have Blake Griffin, Eric Gordon, Aminu, Bledsoe, Willie Warren, and Deandre Jordan as our young core. By majority we look like a team in rebuilding mode, and judging by the acquisiton of Gomes, Foye, and Cook we are not making a serious effort at the playoffs this year.

If we do decide to go young then lets deal Kaman and Davis and try to get young guys or draft picks in return. I say we should try to talk with OKC and get Eric Maynor and a couple of other young players...I think they're interested in a Center maybe we can deal Kaman. Also, Portland may be another ideal trading partner we could get something good from them. As for Baron I don't know who we can shop him to but the point is clear we need to go one direction and stick to it.

Icecoldclipper
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With Aminu crap shooting Al will become a need

Greenmonk94
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after one game ur already expecting him to fail..

gomes is a good backup just incase hes not ready.. he can shoot and play d.. i do think aminu is gonna be a great SF.. people get beter and there shots.. yes i know people are tired of projects but its just shooting.. aminu has preaty good footwork.. can play great d and can rebound... all he needs is to get his shots down and he will be a great plus for this team

realbull17
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the clips should talk to detroit for richard hamilton. i heard they don't want him. indiana don't want danny granger either. i would give old baron davis the boot with a protected 1st round pick for one of them. harrington sucks!

Miquel
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Richard Hamilton is a SG. No way he can play SF

clipperboy24
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^^^ Agree Rip at SF is a no go. princ or Granger are viable options

emplay
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agreed Baron isn't in the right age group - Kaman is on the upper side of that but still a useful piece to help keep defenses honest in the paint for Griffin

clipperboy24
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definitely agree with that one. Hopefully Bledsoe and Foye will prove enough to allow us to unload Baron this season or even before the season starts.

Must be a slow oops news day for you because i havent ever seen you post this much in 2 years:)

emplay
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clippergm
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I dunno, would've been nice to have him at the other wing with E-Gor and him poppin treys, while teams try to stop blake/kaman...

blasana
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he signed with Denver so no need to worry

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