My sincere apology to Blake Griffin.

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Clippersfan86
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I'm truly sorry for writing such a stupid post last year. I mentioned some regret over the Clippers not just grabbing Tyreke Evans because it was heartbreaking to watch the season be lost due to your injury.

It's not that I never believed in Blake Griffin. As a Clippers fan i'm just so used to Clipper letdowns and injuries that I suppose I overreacted. Boy am I glad to see that he rehabbed properly and is dominating. Tyreke is going to be a perennial all star no doubt. Blake is going to be a legend possibly top 10 ever though when he finishes. He's the best rookie big man since Tim Duncan. A guy who can truly change the game for good. If he can stay healthy guys we have our first Clipper legend. This guy is going to go beyond All Star and be in that Superstar group which includes maybe 5-10 players in the league at any given time.

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lol talk about from one extreme to the other! fair enough man, we are in for some very exciting basketball games this season!

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Dunc I never said he wasnt talented. My only reason for making the dumb thread expressing my regret was I didn't want him to become the next Greg Oden. Where he's injured his entire career when we could of had a less talented player like Tyreke staying healthy, putting in work for us. I should of known with his work ethic he would rebound. I don't watch college basketball much though so I will admit I didn't know just how good he was.

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Didn't Tyreke Evans get arrested for doing 120 mph on the freeway in Sac and get a DUI in the process?

Clippersfan86
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HAHAH... Yes he did. Wasn't that this offseason?

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yea.. u can see the video on youtube

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I appreciate the sentiment 86, but we're not even at the regular season yet. While I agree with what you're saying about Griffin's talent, just based on superstition alone, I'd prefer to save a thread like this until the regular season is underway.

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Tyreke Evans-type players are dime a dozen.

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I didn't want to appear to be some kind of Griffin frontrunner if I say this during the regular season. I want to prove my faith by saying it now in the preseason because I know this guy is legit. See scoring flukes happen. The way he's been rebounding,passing,blocking shots and stealing the ball isn't a fluke. You can't fake those things. They are all based on work ethic,hustle and basketball IQ which all the amazing players have.

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I wouldn't go THAT far. Tyreke is easily one of the best guards in the league already. I would say a dominant big man is once a decade though. Dwight Howard is the best we have now and he may not even be a hall of famer in any other decade. Griffin has the chance to be that Tim Duncan type big man.. who comes in with hard work and loyalty and leads his team to a couple titles. I truly believe that he will change the fortune of the Clippers if he stays healthy.

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haha seriously. We havent even won one game with him yet or even played a game with him yet.

Blake has serious talent and i am amped for the season upcomng. I have said since the beginning i think he is going t be a franchise changer a la tim duncan for us, IF he stays ininjured. His college career is actually very much like Tim Duncan's statistically and even with some injuries. In know their specific style of play is different but they both have that play hard no excuses mentality and an insane work ethic.

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Can anyone ever imagine Blake Griffin doing 120 and getting a dui? I mean the dude is like the perfect super human

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I think people need to stop over esaggerating, and cool down a bit. Tyreke is pretty good, still got lots to prove. As does Blake. WEE HAVENT EVEN STARTED THE SEASON YET. Lets not go to EXTREMES, and lets try to enjoy things for what they are worth.

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this is totally incorrect for you to accuse him of going 120.

it was 130.

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That's a bit of an overstatement. But given the rate at which good to really good guards have been coming into the league recently, the odds are better that you are going to find someone who can do what Evan's does before you find someone else like Griffin.

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That's what I meant: in comparison the BG.

It's easy to find 20 ppg-scoring shooting guards.

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He was one of 5 players in the league to average 20ppg 5 rpg and 5 apg.

the others: Wade, Lebron, Kobe and Joe Johnson.

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clipperboy24 wrote:
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That's what I meant: in comparison the BG.

It's easy to find 20 ppg-scoring shooting guards.

He was one of 5 players in the league to average 20ppg 5 rpg and 5 apg.

the others: Wade, Lebron, Kobe and Joe Johnson.

It still doesn't change the fact that it's harder to find scoring PFs like Griffin. Granted, Griffin still has to prove it, but I have no doubt he can do it.

I'll take the advantage in position scarcity. Then again, I'm just trying to erase the memory of Michael Olowokandi. But honestly, who really wanted him before the Clippers drafted him? That draft was much deeper than the Griffin draft. I wanted Mike Bibby or Paul Pierce.

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clipperboy24 wrote:
Grillinnap wrote:
That's what I meant: in comparison the BG.

It's easy to find 20 ppg-scoring shooting guards.

He was one of 5 players in the league to average 20ppg 5 rpg and 5 apg.

the others: Wade, Lebron, Kobe and Joe Johnson.

but there is a big difference between these players. wade, lebron, kobe, and joe can all play off the ball and still get thier numbers, which is a HUGE boost to the team, while tyreke can't. this is why some people question if tyreke and demarcus can co-exist.

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this basically comes down to Blake Griffin just being a flat out BEAST

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Grillinnap wrote:
clipperboy24 wrote:
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That's what I meant: in comparison the BG.

It's easy to find 20 ppg-scoring shooting guards.

He was one of 5 players in the league to average 20ppg 5 rpg and 5 apg.

the others: Wade, Lebron, Kobe and Joe Johnson.

It still doesn't change the fact that it's harder to find scoring PFs like Griffin. Granted, Griffin still has to prove it, but I have no doubt he can do it.

I'll take the advantage in position scarcity. Then again, I'm just trying to erase the memory of Michael Olowokandi. But honestly, who really wanted him before the Clippers drafted him? That draft was much deeper than the Griffin draft. I wanted Mike Bibby or Paul Pierce.

Really hard to find good scoring PF's in the NBA? Are you nuts? do I gotta start dropping tons of names or do you want to change what you wrote there?

Scoring PF's are easy to come by in the NBA. What you may be trying to get across is the fact that a player like Griffin, whose overall skill is rarer to come by than a guard like Tyreke Evans. Evans may be a special player but Griffin, who has great moral character, an amazing work ethic, the right attitude, high BBall IQ, limitless talent, can play both sides of the ball and plays a key position that is a big factor in winning championships may be why you feel that Griffin is a rare commodity than Tyreke Evans.

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clipperstown wrote:
clipperboy24 wrote:
Grillinnap wrote:
That's what I meant: in comparison the BG.

It's easy to find 20 ppg-scoring shooting guards.

He was one of 5 players in the league to average 20ppg 5 rpg and 5 apg.

the others: Wade, Lebron, Kobe and Joe Johnson.

but there is a big difference between these players. wade, lebron, kobe, and joe can all play off the ball and still get thier numbers, which is a HUGE boost to the team, while tyreke can't. this is why some people question if tyreke and demarcus can co-exist.

not really all those playes dominate the ball probably Kobe the least but as far as time per possession those guys are in the top 2 on their team, thats why they are able to average 5 apg.

Also, regarding the 98-99 draft to the 09-10 draft, it actually was a pretty deep draft:

Blake Griffin

Tyreke Evans

Stephen Curry

Brandon Jennings

Johnny Flynn

Marcus Thornton

Darren Collison

Jrue Holiday

Terrence Williams

Demar Derozan

Ty Lawson

Rodrigues Beabouis

Dejuan Blair

Jonas Jerebko

Omri Casspi

those are all players that have had a good impact or appear ready to have a good impact on that team and a few of those look like they could break out to be all stars this year. I said before the draft i think people would look back and see its actually a deep draft. Everyone thought the 98-99 draft was weak back when it happened. Carter was considered overrated with no shot and many other players were thought to become busts. The players proved them wrong just like i think the 2009 draft is.

Too bad we couldnt have gotten another pick with so many PG's in the draft.

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How many times do I have to say that it's a comparison to finding scoring SGs? It's a guarantee that most of the teams in this league get their scoring from their starting SGs or SFs rather than the starting PFs. If this was baseball, Blake Griffin would be a power-hitting shortstop while Tyreke Evans would be just another power-hitting first baseman.

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clipperboy24 wrote:
clipperstown wrote:
clipperboy24 wrote:
That's what I meant: in comparison the BG.

He was one of 5 players in the league to average 20ppg 5 rpg and 5 apg.

the others: Wade, Lebron, Kobe and Joe Johnson.

but there is a big difference between these players. wade, lebron, kobe, and joe can all play off the ball and still get thier numbers, which is a HUGE boost to the team, while tyreke can't. this is why some people question if tyreke and demarcus can co-exist.

not rlly all those payes dominate the ball probabbly Kobe the least but as far as time per possession those guys are in the top 2 on their team, thats why they are able to average 5 apg.

yes that may be true. But let's take lebron for example. he actually has passing ability. he makes the people around him better. but as for tyreke, he got those 5 assists by maybe giving the ball to an open player for a 3 pointer or a mid ranged jumper. with the amount of time tyreke spends hogging the ball, those 5 assists are a given. he doesn't make the people around him lay any better, like kobe, wade, lebron, and maybe even joe johnson can. stats wise, yes he does have 5 assists, but the assists that lebron, kobe, wade, and JJ gave were different.

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I love the enthusiasm, BUT let's wait (and pray...seriously) until he plays a regular season game to jinx him..

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