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Post subject: Corey Maggette for Luol Deng?
 Posted: Oct 12, 2006 - 04:15 AM PST
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According to this article:
http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com ... navigation
Excerpt: So how about obtaining Corey Maggette for Luol Deng?
OK, OK, stay with me here, as I often have to counsel.
The Bulls would have to add more to such a deal, certainly Michael Sweetney, who sounds like he's on the way out, anyway, with questions already being raised about conditioning, his weight and overall health. And even then the Bulls would have to add something else to that kind of deal because Maggette makes $7 million, more than Deng and Sweetney combined. But it would be something worth looking at for both sides if they can find a way.
And money is the issue, especially for the Bulls.
It's beginning to look as if Kirk Hinrich will not get his contract extension this fall and will become a restricted free agent after the season. That's not very risky for the Bulls because they can match any offer. The problem for the Bulls is that Andres Nocioni's contract expires after this season, plus Ben Gordon and Deng are eligible for extensions.
With Wallace on the books at an average of $15 million a season, it seems unlikely the Bulls could re-sign all four players in their core and avoid the league's luxury tax. The Bulls have committed to not exceeding the tax level, like every team outside New York. Hinrich is probably the No. 1 priority because he has a chance to move into an upper echelon with his selection to the U.S. national team. Figure Nocioni is equally irreplaceable given the unique way he plays and his increasing production. He could become one of the most sought after free agents.
So the decision could come down to Gordon or Deng. Though I've long suggested Gordon in various deals given his size limitations, he does have a vital NBA skill: He can shoot and score. And he can do so effortlessly. I long felt he wouldn't fit in a backcourt with Hinrich, but the addition of Thabo Sefolosha could prove crucial. If Sefolosha can be the big, defensive combo guard the team is missing, Gordon would be a keeper.
That said, I believe Deng will become a very good player, a versatile, hard-working forward.
But if the Bulls have a flaw, it still remains scoring. Maggette, the Fenwick High School product, is a 20-point scorer. He may not be long for the Clippers, where he mostly is used as a sixth man. Maggette has chafed in that role and is not likely to remain satisfied.
The Clippers entertained talks over the summer of a trade for Golden State's Mike Dunleavy. I'd take Deng over Dunleavy. Maybe the Clippers would too. And if the Bulls were going to move Deng, it would be better to deal him to a Western Conference team. Though Maggette's $7 million seems like a lot to us mere mortals, it is a modest NBA salary and far less than any of the Bulls' four potential free agents is seeking. It seems like something the Bulls would at least have to look at before finances interfere with their dreams.
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The guy thinks that trading Luol Deng for Maggette would be a good idea for the Bulls. Even though I like Maggette I'm somewhat intrigued at the idea. Deng seems to be a better defender and rebounder, though Corey has the edge when it comes to scoring, 3 pt. shooting %, and FT attempts (double) and FT %. What do you guys think? |
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Post subject: RE: Corey Maggette for Luol Deng?
Posted: Oct 12, 2006 - 12:49 PM PST
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| That'd be a bad trade for the Clippers. CM is an all-star calibre player but Deng is good but not quite there yet. Asides from free throws CM also has the edge in experience. As the writer said CM is only making $7 mil a year which is a bargain. |
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Post subject: RE: Corey Maggette for Luol Deng?
Posted: Oct 12, 2006 - 03:08 PM PST
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| I dont think that would be a good deal either. The only way i would make this trade would be if Corey started complaining about his minutes and hurt the team chemistry. I dont think corey would do that though. Maybe Corey for Gorden. Hes another proven scorer that we could bring off the bench. |
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Post subject: RE: Corey Maggette for Luol Deng?
Posted: Nov 03, 2006 - 07:26 PM PST
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| Yeah it sure sounds like we need a consistent scorer from the outside. Mobley can do it, its just that he's not quite consistent enough. I guess thats what Livingston is working to develop. He sure has struggled shooting these first two games. Maybe Korolev is the answer?? Who knows. I'd hope, for the Bulls sake they wouldnt give up Ben Gordon. I suppose we can't get Morrison from the Bobcats, lol. that would be neat. |
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Post subject: RE: Corey Maggette for Luol Deng?
Posted: Nov 04, 2006 - 03:34 AM PST
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| It's hard giving up Maggette since he's an original. Besides Brand, name one other player who has been on the Clippers longer. Plus Maggette doesn't know any other team than the Clippers. Gordon and Deng are good players, but any trade had better be worth it. Speaking of which, how much do each plan to make? |
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Post subject: RE: Corey Maggette for Luol Deng?
Posted: Nov 04, 2006 - 02:30 PM PST
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| I think both Deng and Gordon probably will have their contract up in the next 2 seasons, and I'm sure they each will command more that ~$7 million that Maggette makes. It may be a a little early for the Clippers to make a drastic move like this- maybe after 20-25 games things don't work out then maybe make a move. |
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Post subject: RE: Corey Maggette for Luol Deng?
Posted: Nov 05, 2006 - 01:22 AM PST
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| After his performance Sat. Night, Magette shows us why he needs to stay! Our inconsistency on who's gonna be hot is great because we have a combination of 7 guys who can light it up anytime, one of them being a powerhouse who doesnt have a bad night (Brand), and thats not including our defensive man who doesnt need to score (Ross). |
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Post subject: RE: Corey Maggette for Luol Deng?
Posted: Nov 05, 2006 - 02:10 AM PST
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| hahaha, I agree with you wholeheartedly. Magette would easily be a All Star on anyother team and at 7 mil a year, you couldn't ask for a better starter/bench player. I particularly the the combo of Maggette and Livingston, they would exceedingly well together. |
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Post subject: RE: Corey Maggette for Luol Deng?
Posted: Nov 05, 2006 - 05:22 PM PST
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| I agree 100% guys. You can't trade CM. He was the main reason why the Clippers won last night, and was a very important part of that win against Denver. Without CM the Clippers could easily be 0-3 right now! Also you can tell he is playing so hard and determined! |
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Post subject: RE: Corey Maggette for Luol Deng?
Posted: Nov 27, 2006 - 06:09 PM PST
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I wonder if all talk of this trade has dried up. From all the deals I've heard so far (Miller, Smith, ect) I think Luol Deng has played the best of the bunch. Plus he's easily the youngest with plenty of upswing. Maggette needs to learn to work as a team and not recklessly drive to the basket and draw the charge. If he can do this, facilitate the offense, and pass more I much rather keep Maggette.
Looking at how poorly Chicago is doing they probably need an interior player more, but at least Maggette can slash and drive to the hole. |
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Post subject: RE: Corey Maggette for Luol Deng?
Posted: Nov 27, 2006 - 09:39 PM PST
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| I agree- Maggette can be an extremely effective player (plus his contract is a good bargain for the Clippers)- he just needs to work within the frame of the offense. He should look at some tapes of how Kobe Bryant is playing. Even someone as good as Kobe can't take it himself all the time- you have to find open teammates. If Corey makes sure that he only takes "good" shots he can help the team big time. |
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Post subject: RE: Corey Maggette for Luol Deng?
Posted: Nov 28, 2006 - 12:07 AM PST
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| I agree...Magette probably should stay. I know we're all frustrated as fans right now, but if they fix the problems by the middle of the season, i'd say there's no need for changes, but for right now, we just need to ride the storm out and have faith that this team will turn itself around. I'm going through the same thing in the NFL...my team the Jaguars, play like champions one week, and are blowing it the next. Just another team like the Clippers trying to turn the corner towards greatness after making major steps. The road to victory is long and hard, but it's worth it. I'll stop rambling now. |
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