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Gosh, some of you are really talking ship...Rudy FREAKING Gay over Iggy??? Gay is basically a shooter, who can't defend **** and is so overpaid, it will be just the dumbest move to get him...I am sure we don't even consider him! Be realistic, we won't get Deron W or CP3 this summer and the whole point is to make a huge season NOW...we need a quality SF and we need that NOW! How is the Minny pick valuable to us...we get another young guy, who could be useful in 4 years??!?!?!?!?

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100 percent accurate. Why would we want another 15 shot a game player who's one dimensional when we can have Iggy who's okay with taking very little shots and is a defense/pass first player? I too find it funny that everyone here is big on a draft pick that MIGHT be good or may be a bust. It's better to get a player who we know is good and still in their prime. We have too much youth and inexperience as it is. I want us to win NOW. So does Neil Olshey.. so does Blake.. so does Eric Gordon. Nobody wants to win in 3 seasons.. they want to make a playoff run in 2012.

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While I don't think he's good for a straight up one to one deal, everybody is ignoring Mo'. Remember he's the only player we didn't choose to have. He got him to get rid of Baron and he has a declining contract. He may be good for a multi team deal. That's if you trust EB but he's not a rookie and he's shown incredible promise in the last few games

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Just playing devil's advocate here, but if the Minny pick winds up being top 1-3, its likely the player will have a major impact immediately or within a year. Look at guys like Durant, Rose, Tyreke Evans, Griffin, John Wall. Nevertheless, I'm still in favor of getting an upgrade at SF with a good vet ASAP, even if it means trading the Minny pick.

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Are you kidding me? This post proves you have seen 0 Clipper games this season. Yes, Rudy freaking Gay over Iguodala a thousand times over.

He is a shooter, yes. A great shooter not only from midrange but behind the arc. He can defend well for his position, I have no idea who you were watching this season. Gay doesn't need to take a ton of shots to be effective, he gets to the line well (and would have the 2nd best FT% on this team) enough and puts up good rebounding numbers. 2 steals per game and 1 block per game is a bonus.

He is one of the best isolation defenders in the league and can defend along the perimeter adequately. Not to mention he handles well for a small forward and is extremely clutch.

To me it's no question you take Gay before Iguodala, because "defense" is more of a product of your team than the individual, READ: Kendrick Perkins.

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ClipYourWings wrote:
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Gosh, some of you are really talking ship...Rudy FREAKING Gay over Iggy??? Gay is basically a shooter, who can't defend **** and is so overpaid, it will be just the dumbest move to get him...I am sure we don't even consider him! Be realistic, we won't get Deron W or CP3 this summer and the whole point is to make a huge season NOW...we need a quality SF and we need that NOW! How is the Minny pick valuable to us...we get another young guy, who could be useful in 4 years??!?!?!?!?

Are you kidding me? This post proves you have seen 0 Clipper games this season. Yes, Rudy freaking Gay over Iguodala a thousand times over.

He is a shooter, yes. A great shooter not only from midrange but behind the arc. He can defend well for his position, I have no idea who you were watching this season. Gay doesn't need to take a ton of shots to be effective, he gets to the line well (and would have the 2nd best FT% on this team) enough and puts up good rebounding numbers. 2 steals per game and 1 block per game is a bonus.

He is one of the best isolation defenders in the league and can defend along the perimeter adequately. Not to mention he handles well for a small forward and is extremely clutch.

To me it's no question you take Gay before Iguodala, because "defense" is more of a product of your team than the individual, READ: Kendrick Perkins.

I usually agree with you but can't this time. Rudy Gay is on a longer contract... and is far more one dimensional that Iggy. Rudy Gay is a poor man's Carmelo Anthony while Iggy is a poor man's Scottie Pippen. Give me Scottie Pippen over Melo ANY DAY. I don't care if Gay is clutch and shoots well. He's an overrated defender and not a very good passer/playmaker. The last thing this team needs right now is another 15+ shots a game player to disrupt the 2 man game of Eric Gordon and Blake.

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Um...^ that is exactly what the team needs. We dont need another playmaker necessarily but we need someone who can hit 7-10 shots a game for us a game. You realize we averaged less than 100 points per game on offense this season right? And didnt even hit those averages when EJ was out? We need scoring, plain and simple. We need someone who can hit when blake griffin gets doubled, and hit with consistency. What we dont need is someone who cant shoot and needs the ball in his hand to be effective on offense. That is exactly what iggy is. And my question is how it Rudy gay one dimensional? he has more to his game. He rebounds and scores in multiple different ways whether its running off screens or the ball is in his hands. What i can tell you is that rudy gay is not worth the money he is getting and that is the sole reason i do not want him on this team. Nor do i want iggy because he is 1) a head case and 2) cannot shoot perimeter shots, which is exactly what we dont need. Sure he is better than gomes at the sf spot, but he is a lot worse than gomes at shooting and that is saying something.

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I'm going with JC on this, 86. We're basically thinking the same thing except that I'd be stoked to have Gay.

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i think whoever we get, we'll be elated not to see gomes face in the introduction of the starting five.

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I'll be happier if he's not even on the roster.

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I agree we do need a 3rd scorer but Iggy is a career 15 ppg player. That's plenty. He also takes far less shots than Gay. I'm assuming Eric and Blake improve and want way more shots next season. I don't like the idea of having 3 players that want 15 shots a game. I'm more about a balanced offense. I don't want us in the Miami Heat mold.. I'd prefer us in the Thunder or Grizzlies mold.

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ClipYourWings wrote:
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i think whoever we get, we'll be elated not to see gomes face in the introduction of the starting five.

I'll be happier if he's not even on the roster.

i agree..

gomes is just a shooter when hes really open.. farouq is i think the SF off the bench... he is ruthless and fearless and will take it to the rim.. thats what we need off the bench

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But 86 look at how he scores those 15ppg. He is not spreading the floor. He is demanding the ball in his hands and getting to the rim or in transition. Btw how can BG and EJ get more shots than they already were getting? We do not want to be like the thunder where we have 2 scorers and everyone else is just there to give them passes and rebound. We need more scorers that can spread the floor. Thunder has only 2 ppl scoring for them, grizzlies have a more balanced scoring attack but talk to other analysts and they will tell u the grizzlies offense is horrid to watch normally. Plus they rely a lot on zbo to score their points, but they are better than looking at the thunder or the heat.

With that said tho, I know u know iggy cannot shoot meaning you know he gets all of his points in the paint. With that said, we have 2 guys that live in the paint, BG and DJ, if we add in iggy we basically bring a guard into the paint that can double and strip blake griffin. I like iggy as a player but he simply just doesnt fit in our offense. If we get him it will basically let me know that our FO has no idea what kind of offense we want to run and we are just going to try and out athletic teams which is not a recipe for consistent success.

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Well he shoots 5 less shots officially. Griffin has already said he'd be fine with taking less if it meant more wins. I don't doubt that Gay keeping the defense honest will mean better looks for BG, because I bet at least 4 or 5 of those 16 FG Griffin attempts per game are bad looks.

Iggy averages less shots, but the majority of his points are in transition or cutting to the basket. Eric and Blake already play a similar game... we don't really need a third slasher. Gay has a more versatile offense as he can post up and shoot the J even better.

We'd have less playmaking but better spacing for Griffin and Gordon, and I'd easily take the latter over the former based on our current line up.

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We need wins not a pretty offense. The Grizzlies are the 8th overall defense in the league and 1st best perimeter defense team. Offensively I think they are like 12th.. yet they have a good chance to be in the WCF. They are the only team who gets more points in the paint than us so they have plenty of paint scorers and it doesn't hurt them. As in you suggesting Iggy may be redundant with Blake. Also.. DJ averages 7 points a game on like 4 attempted shots a game.. so you seriously shouldn't count him as an inside scoring threat.

I agree we have a dire need for outside shooting but we can nab a shooter in free agency for MLE easily. We also have major holes on the perimeter defensively, in the playmaking department and in the rebounding department can use a little help assuming we lose Kaman this offseason. Also neither of you are factoring in a pretty big issue. Eric Gordon was injured pretty much the second half of the season and his shot went to sh**. Before that he was shooting lights out and we were racking up W's and were pretty much the hottest team in the league. Then you guys also aren't mentioning that Mo Williams shot like 38 percent from deep in a Clippers uniform.

So don't be deceived or obsessed with the whole idea of poor outside shooting being our biggest weakness or only weakness. We have about 3 things that are glaring holes for us as a team and shooting is only one of them. We rank among the worst in 3 point shooting but also in 3 point defense which Iggy should help tremendously.

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ClipYourWings wrote:
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I agree we do need a 3rd scorer but Iggy is a career 15 ppg player. That's plenty. He also takes far less shots than Gay. I'm assuming Eric and Blake improve and want way more shots next season. I don't like the idea of having 3 players that want 15 shots a game. I'm more about a balanced offense. I don't want us in the Miami Heat mold.. I'd prefer us in the Thunder or Grizzlies mold.

Well he shoots 5 less shots officially. Griffin has already said he'd be fine with taking less if it meant more wins. I don't doubt that Gay keeping the defense honest will mean better looks for BG, because I bet at least 4 or 5 of those 16 FG Griffin attempts per game are bad looks.

Iggy averages less shots, but the majority of his points are in transition or cutting to the basket. Eric and Blake already play a similar game... we don't really need a third slasher. Gay has a more versatile offense as he can post up and shoot the J even better.

We'd have less playmaking but better spacing for Griffin and Gordon, and I'd easily take the latter over the former based on our current line up.

Think about this. After Baron we have pretty much no playmakers. Blake is probably our best passer/playmaker. Andre averaged 6.5 assists per game just about. That makes it to where Iggy can be our primary ball handler at times.. relieving EJ and Mo of that duty. He can kind of be our Lebron James.. or Scottie Pippen. Our Point Forward. Also 5 less shots a game is a HUGE difference. 5 more shots for Blake= an increase of 5-6 ppg at his shooting percentage.

Besides it's a statistical fact that shots inside the paint or at the rim are almost always the better, more efficient shot than an outside one. With the loss of Kaman.. Griffin and EJ are pretty much our only slashers/paint scorers.

Look at how the Grizzlies are killing teams. Tons of post players, slashers and perimeter defense. They have decent shooting but aren't anywhere near an elite offensive team. I don't care how pretty it is.. it's a more efficient playstyle than a jumpshooting squad.

We do need to spread the floor for Blake which is why you sign a consistent shooter off the bench in free agency like Kyle Korver.

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Iggy reason 1: I would love to see what Iggy shoots from 3 point land when he's not the best wing on the team. I think his 34% 3pt percentage will jump up to 36 to 38% once he's taking open 3s from Blake and Kaman being doubled on every possession.

Iggy reason 2: 3 years $43 million is a bad contract today. In just two years its a fantastic expiring contract trade chip. That is just in case Iggy isn't the missing piece. Gay has 4 years $69 million. That is a bad contract for three more long years. If you get Gay and he's not fitting you will be hard fought to find a team to take him. Let alone for a potential top 3 pick like the Clippers may have to give up to get him.

Iggy reason 3: He can be slotted as the starting SF, but also play the 2 if Gordon goes down for an extended period. Granted, I know Gay can also be a backup at the 4, but if Griffin goes down and Gay is playing the 4, we better wave the white flag anyway.

Gay reason 1: He's going to have a chip on his shoulder after watching his team win without him. He just learned that him chucking 15 shots/game and minimal defense does not win. Team ball and team defense is what has the Grizzlies winning. I bet Gay is more coach-able than ever this coming season.

Gay reason 2: He's 24! Fits right into the super youth movement the Clippers are in the middle of executing.

Gay reason 3: Memphis will have more value for the Minny pick than most teams. A top pick means a potential star player being forced to give your team 4 years of play at a massive discount off your real worth. (most of the time, Blake best example of a great discount, Thabeet best example of it back firing). - The Grizzlies fans would love for the team to spend the money to keep Randolph, Battier, Gasol. The Grizzlies simply can't afford to keep them all with Gay making $15 million. Trading with the Clippers who can provide $10 mil plus in cap space as well as provide them with a top pick is ideal for a small market team like Memphis.

Overall, I'd be happy with either, but my gut does lean toward Gay being the better fit.

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Wow, this has turned into an extra page of debate. Memphis hasn't given any strong indication they want to deal Gay, whereas Philly has with Iggy, big difference. As for fit, it's all subjective. Personally I prefer what Iguodala brings because he's a good defender and passer along with his offensive skills, not as pure of a scorer as Gay but I feel that our team needs a small forward who can do all the little things instead of just scoring.

However, the main thing I want is a good small forward in our starting lineup, either Gay or Iggy is a huge upgrade over Gomes. You guys can keep debating who fits better, but I'd rather not put much thought into a player who hasn't been offered on the trade table yet.

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True we are beating the dead horse a bit but at least we are keeping it respectful. I think at the end of the day Iggy, Granger or Gay would be a HUGE boost to the franchise.

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Yep, all of those guys have their flaws, but any one of them would be a significant upgrade to what we have at SF now. And sometimes, if the team fit is right, the weaknesses of an individual player somehow get deemphasized or go away. Look at Z-Bo. Before he wound up in Memphis a lot of people considered him a selfish, black hole on offense and who played no defense. Now he's leading his team to a deep playoff run and has Jerry West calling him the best PF in the league.

Good things can happen when teams have good chemistry and players all buy in to the system. I could see that happening for us if we picked up either Iggy, Gay or Granger.

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You got that right any of these guys will help us

Big time Im just happy to be a fan man lakers fans

Are ready to try to jump on the nations ha!!

But if we want to make a run we need a good 6th man

Ray Allen I hope or a solid core bench

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i want andre with the clips. i hope olshey goes on this site.

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I think we need to

1) Trade Kaman and Foye for Iggy and some other role player

Philly wants to build so with kamans and foyes contracts ending this is a win for them

and with kamans contract matching Iggy's we will still have money to spend..

2)We would still have our Minny pick which is a guranteed top 5 and Mo with this we will be able to attract someone like CP3 or even Dwight

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I think we need to

1) Trade Kaman and Foye for Iggy and some other role player

Philly wants to build so with kamans and foyes contracts ending this is a win for them

and with kamans contract matching Iggy's we will still have money to spend..

2)We would still have our Minny pick which is a guranteed top 5 and Mo with this we will be able to attract someone like CP3 or even Dwight

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I agree there is no way we are getting Gay and that Iggy would help us defensively. I just dont know if i can trust him to guard taller SF's because of his height. But then again VDN likes to run the small line up anyway and I guess we will have aminu or ryan gomes to guard the taller SFs in the league. And 86 I see now you are thinking of a more slashing offense than one that surrounds griffin with jump shooters. I personally think its riskier just because we hope that blake griffin can consistently read when the cutting man's man leaves him to double blake and hope either he can get the guy the ball or hope that he can score while being doubled.

and clippersfan32 why trade foye when Kaman and Iggy could be traded straight up?

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not to anyone in particular, but just a general comment to those saying iggy can't shoot and it will hurt the team...

a lot of the need for a sharpshooting 3 came from the fact that baron was a bad shooter, leaving gordon as the only reliable 3 point threat in the lineup. but this team is built differently now, with williams at the pg, meaning that, compared to baron, we have better outside shooting but worse passing/facilitating, meaning the sf we now need would not have to be as good a shooter but a better facilitator. true, it'd be nicer if iggy could shoot, but look at it this way. mo will and gordon are great shooters(much better than the baron gordon backcourt) and if kaman gets his starting job back, it would look like this around blake:

C-Kaman-can definitely spread the floor, consistently hit 16-18 footer.

SG- Gordon- can shoot the 3, and slash.

PG-Williams-mostly a standstill shooter, not much of a facilitator.

so what's really wrong with having the SF position filled by somebody who is not a shooter but who does what those other 3 dont do so well: slash and facilitate? sure, it'd be nicer if he was a more consistent shooter(and i think the clips should go after a 3pt specialist for the bench, a la korver) but considering what else he brings offensively, he's actually a good fit. and he's a great defender.

so yeah, just throwing it out there that a lot of the "we need a shooter!" stuff started when we had Baron and DJ starting, 2 guys who couldnt shoot, compared to Mo and Kaman, who definitely can. just something to think about.

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Igoudala is probably the worst possible choice out the whole bunch...since we need SHOOTERS....or guys who make shots when the doubles and triples on blake leave them wide open....

but I guess he is better than nothing and we get rid of Kaman to boot so i guess I am for it...I have been a Clipper fan for so long that I think to myself (I get excited anytime we make a move) "I dont care what move we make as long as we make some moves!"

lol

by the way...I dont know if I am the only one here that likes him but..I really really like Mo Williams...next to Sam Cassell he is arguably the BEST point guard we have ever had. Go back to the list of generic (d-league) PGs we have had in the past and say this is not the case....

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and if hes available I say f*** it lets get him

Mo

Eric

Igoudala

Blake

Dj

Eric Bledsoe

Foye

Gomes/Aminu

Ike (I really really really like what Ike brings to our team)

Cook (interchange him and Ike to PF and C ..we would go small)

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Guys...lets not forget what Randy Foye did last year. He was arguably our best shooter and our most clutch player ALL season. Aside from Blake he was probably one of our main contributors

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I like Foye's contributions off the bench, he's definitely shown the ability to be a good and relatively consistent 6th man for us towards the back half of the season. However, if we can get a player like Iguodala or Granger (or whoever) at the 3 at the expense of losing Foye (plus Minny pick of course), that gives our coaching staff the flexibility to have DJ start and Kaman come off the bench as our 6th man. Kaman may have his flaws but splitting time with DJ, he can still give us a solid 15 and 8 with 20-25 minutes, which he's shown to do when coming back from his injury earlier this season.

If for some strange reason our trade partner prefers Kaman over the Minny pick, then we'd have to sign another big man to back up DJ. Ike (assuming he returns) isn't a true center, Cook is a spread 4, and we need another big in case someone goes down.

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I think we need a playmaker more than we need a shooter.

If Mo Williams reverts to his pre 2010 average then he will be a solid outside threat alongside Gordon.

If Iggy is brought in, the Clippers will have solid (though not spectacular) playmaking ability in positions 1-4. The offense could be magical.

Iggy is also a mid range threat, unlike EJ.

PG: Mo - decent passer, fairly good shooter

SG: EJ - decent passer, great shooter

SF: Iggy - decent passer (great for position), decent shooter

PF: BG - decent passer (great for position), force down low

C: DJ

Lets not forget perimeter defense. EJ + Iggy on D is a force to be reckoned with.

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^ I actually think having a defender like Iggy will take some of the defensive load off EJ and allow him to focus more on offense. Iggy is also quick enough to guard opposing 2 guards, so switching with EJ on some possessions won't hurt the Clips as much if the opposing small forward isn't a big offensive threat. EJ and Iggy as our 2-3 perimeter D combo will absolutely shut down other teams.

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Oh yeah - I'm not sure Memphis wants to get rid of Rudy.

I mean...they liked the guy so much the pre-empted the market and maxed out his contract just a year ago. He was also playing solid ball before getting injured.

I see no reason for them to give up Rudy.

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Also I would love to see Blake leading a fastbreak featuring dj and iggy runnin the wings

Or gordan Blake and iggy

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Yeah, I agree. I wouldn't just dump Foye. He bring a lot to the table because he can capably play two positions, has shown the ability to hit clutch shots and is a pretty decent defender when health. I would definitely explore other options before sending Foye away in a trade.

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IMO EJ needs to take the ball out of mo will's hands and just let mo be a spot up shooter that is allowed to make a play or 2 here and there to throw defenses off. I felt in the last half of the season, mainly in part to EJ losing some confidence from the wrist injury, Mo will was relied on too much as a playmaker for us to be successful. During the stretch of games that we won we had baron coming off the bench and EJ providing most of the playmaking in the pick and roll with BG.

I think we need more of that with Mo will on the wing because Mo will is not consistent enough to score the majority of the time on those and does not have the necessary court vision to make the right pass to the open wing player. (I mean Gordon doesnt have the court vision either but at least he is more consistent in the PnR than Mo will.

sry that was just my take on Mo will since ppl here started talking about him.

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not sure you can consider Foye "arguably our best shooter" when he just shot 38.8 FG% and 32.7 3PT%....he was very good @ the FT line with 89.3% though. Gordon was our best "clutch" shooter followed by Mo per 82games.

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trade ideas + starting lineup projections leave us with what we had this past season = zero depth.

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Seriously you some of you guys are saying we don't need iggy when for the past few seasons our Sfs have sucked..... Getting good players and reasonable players are how we are going to improve

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iggy is a good player... might be a bit overpaid but sometimes u need to overpay a player to get into the playoffs... look at pau getting paid about 17 mill a year... kobe getting 25 mill... iggy for 12 mill starts to seem resonable

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ekker3 wrote:
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I think we need a playmaker more than we need a shooter.

If Mo Williams reverts to his pre 2010 average then he will be a solid outside threat alongside Gordon.

If Iggy is brought in, the Clippers will have solid (though not spectacular) playmaking ability in positions 1-4. The offense could be magical.

Iggy is also a mid range threat, unlike EJ.

PG: Mo - decent passer, fairly good shooter

SG: EJ - decent passer, great shooter

SF: Iggy - decent passer (great for position), decent shooter

PF: BG - decent passer (great for position), force down low

C: DJ

Lets not forget perimeter defense. EJ + Iggy on D is a force to be reckoned with.

trade ideas + starting lineup projections leave us with what we had this past season = zero depth.

Unfortunately, the Miami Heat seem to be proving that depth isn't always needed. On the other hand, depth was one of the reasons Dallas was able to sweep the Lakers.

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ClipfanSince88 wrote:
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I think we need a playmaker more than we need a shooter.

If Mo Williams reverts to his pre 2010 average then he will be a solid outside threat alongside Gordon.

If Iggy is brought in, the Clippers will have solid (though not spectacular) playmaking ability in positions 1-4. The offense could be magical.

Iggy is also a mid range threat, unlike EJ.

PG: Mo - decent passer, fairly good shooter

SG: EJ - decent passer, great shooter

SF: Iggy - decent passer (great for position), decent shooter

PF: BG - decent passer (great for position), force down low

C: DJ

Lets not forget perimeter defense. EJ + Iggy on D is a force to be reckoned with.

trade ideas + starting lineup projections leave us with what we had this past season = zero depth.

Unfortunately, the Miami Heat seem to be proving that depth isn't always needed. On the other hand, depth was one of the reasons Dallas was able to sweep the Lakers.

but when 2 of the 3 players happen to be top 5 players, its a different story.

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^^^ Point well taken, but I didn't think going into the season that two megastars, one all-star and a bunch of has-beens and scrubs actually would be enough to win the title. And it still may not be. If either Wade or LeBron gets injured, the Heat will be done. But, if those two stay health, the Heat are looking like the team to beat right now.

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If we would get rid of Foye..who would back up EJ? I really like Foye with a bench unit minus Chris Kaman. Under no circumstances do I want Chris Kaman anywhere...lets face it. he really really sucks

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ClipfanSince88 wrote:
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Guys...lets not forget what Randy Foye did last year. He was arguably our best shooter and our most clutch player ALL season. Aside from Blake he was probably one of our main contributors

Yeah, I agree. I wouldn't just dump Foye. He bring a lot to the table because he can capably play two positions, has shown the ability to hit clutch shots and is a pretty decent defender when health. I would definitely explore other options before sending Foye away in a trade.

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Ideally if we can get rid of Kaman, Gomes, Aminu or Cook throw in the pick too...to get a nice SF then i say do it...

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tense2 wrote:
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Guys...lets not forget what Randy Foye did last year. He was arguably our best shooter and our most clutch player ALL season. Aside from Blake he was probably one of our main contributors

not sure you can consider Foye "arguably our best shooter" when he just shot 38.8 FG% and 32.7 3PT%....he was very good @ the FT line with 89.3% though. Gordon was our best "clutch" shooter followed by Mo per 82games.

http://www.82games.com/1011/CSORT11.HTM

I am not going by 82games....I am going by what I saw every game. For everytime all our other guys missed shots, or the team was constantly missing wide open shots (horribly I might add) Randy Foye it seemed would always get us out of a funk. To a point where I was surprised when he missed...

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