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I'm really excited to finally see this kid play in the NBA

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Last report i heard he has lost a lot of confidence and is avg 6 points and 3 ass per game. He will not improve that team.

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He's barely a star @ barca tbh. He might become good a few years in, but he shouldn't be a treath to our pick imo, still interested to see just how he develops offc Very Happy

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Currently third PG of the team. Enough said. Too much hype on him. He was going to be traded this summer anyway

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How concerned should we be? Ricky Rubio has indeed committed to play for the Wolves next season. Depending on how you feel about his game, will determine how you feel about how much better he will make that team.

As for me, I have mixed reactions to his game. If you look at a highlight reel, there are of course many great plays.

But you could also create a lowlight reel of bricks that he throws up. I have seen video where he looks good and video where certain aspects of his game are suspect. Like shooting. But I haven't seen video lately.

One sports writer from a local paper there says that he thinks that Rubio will come off the bench at the start of next season. He didn't seem to think Rubio is the franchise savior their fans would hope he would be. He might become a real player eventually.

As for Clippers fan, you wonder if his signing will lessen the trade value of the 2012 Minney pick that we own because other teams will think that maybe Minney will rise in the standings making that pick less valuable.

What do you think?

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Not concerned at all. The kid isn't very good at all, is a poor shooter and got schooled by a wooden chair in a workout with Sacramento. Don't believe me there was a video on this very site.

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good for them.... next years draft will be deep so as long as we get the top 5... then its all good

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my feelings as well. I think that he will help them but I dont see the playoffs in their future any time soon.

Two things are involved in making the playoffs for teams like the Timberwolves (and to a certain extent us), first they have to improve themselves a huge amount, second teams that made the playoffs ahead of them will have to play worse. I dont see both of those happening next year.

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the dude is all hype... people hope he can actually play in the nba when he cant even play in spain.

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haha Twolves were last place! LAST PLACE! Lets pretend that Rubio can make them 20 games better (which he wont) that puts them at 37 wins.... not in the playoffs but still in the lottery... Odds have shown that even with that type of record you can pick first over all. And with Twolves luck in the lottery and not getting the first pick, next year will finally be the year that their card is pulled, only it will be our names on it. the guy was averaging like 6ppg and 3apg in spain. Rudy Fernandez looked like Kobe when he was playing in Spain. were fine

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I'll admit im not much of a basketball watcher unless its the Clippers or Lakers or playoff's. So only thing I know about this guy Rubio is what people have talked about. I hope he turns out to play like booty sauce.

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ricky rubio is the truth, yall are biased!

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not sure how comparable their situations are...but Brandon Jennings averaged 5.5 points and 2.2 assists in one season in Italy before averaging 15.5 and 5.7 in his rookie year...

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wasnt jennings a bench player in italy tho? Rubio has been the face of his team for a few years now

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since when are individual stats the only thing that matters?

look at what rubio has accomplished in terms of team accolades.

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When Rubio is an All Star, i'm gona call out every single person who doubted him lol.

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ricky rubio is the truth, yall are biased!

When Rubio is an All Star, i'm gona call out every single person who doubted him lol.

exactly. lighter version jason kidd? at the very least a smaller shaun livingston before injury?

then they'll look back and see mo williams was the starter on that 2011 roster.

imo, its trade the minny pick for rubio or package it for an elite PG (deron or cp3). one of those is easier to accomplish.

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Lol jason kidd has the court vision, he rebounds, and plays solid D, don't compare Rubio to Kidd until the kid actually does something with himself

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ill give you the rebounding, but they could be on par when it comes to vision, passing, defense (could be a much better defender - his sneakiness could be rondo-esque). give ricky a chance.

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ekker3 wrote:
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Lol jason kidd has the court vision, he rebounds, and plays solid D, don't compare Rubio to Kidd until the kid actually does something with himself

ill give you the rebounding, but they could be on par when it comes to vision, passing, defense (could be a much better defender - his sneakiness could be rondo-esque). give ricky a chance.

comparing him to a HOF and saying he is on par with that HOF when you ahve never seen him play live or against NBA competition = no surprise coming from you Wink

I think he will be interesting next year, but dont see him hitting the ROY charts

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He's too weak! His arms are just too thin, he'll get destroyed by even the weakest guards.

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hes scrawny! 6'4 180?! practically invisible

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Lol jason kidd has the court vision, he rebounds, and plays solid D, don't compare Rubio to Kidd until the kid actually does something with himself
ill give you the rebounding, but they could be on par when it comes to vision, passing, defense (could be a much better defender - his sneakiness could be rondo-esque). give ricky a chance. comparing him to a HOF and saying he is on par with that HOF when you ahve never seen him play live or against NBA competition = no surprise coming from you ;) I think he will be interesting next year, but dont....

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that's what they said about tayshaun prince and kevin durant...and they play a more physical position.

and its not like rubio's playing against high school kids right now. dude's been matching up against grown men for years now.

#1 pick kyrie irving? not even a 1/2 year against young college players. no experience, 6'3" 191lbs, yet people say he's ready. rubio's bigger than him yet people are screaming he's too thin.

AMERICAN BIAS.

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Well tayshaun and durant BOTH have long arms to make up for their lack of strength, and both are okay athletes. Irving is also thin, but he is athletic. The competition that rubio's playing against right now are a bunch of pu$$ies... He'll get eaten alive in the NBA

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I love the type of ball that rubio plays, but he himself isn't a good overall player IMO

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I think Ricky Rubio is s a very good team basketball player. This news definitely does not help us. And depending on what moves Minny makes this offseason they could wound up a good +10 games better than last season.

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see, no offense, but im starting to think you're judging rubio based on what you think euro PGs SHOULD look like in stature. we're not talking about a jj barea sized dude here.

rubio's wingspan is considered to be freakish for a point guard : 6'9". that's rajon rondo country. higher than most every PG in the league. its part of what makes ricky such a good defender.

for the record, that's only a couple inches shorter than durant's tarantula arms.

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ekker3 wrote:
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Well tayshaun and durant BOTH have long arms to make up for their lack of strength, and both are okay athletes. Irving is also thin, but he is athletic. The competition that rubio's playing against right now are a bunch of pu$$ies... He'll get eaten alive in the NBA

see, no offense, but im starting to think you're judging rubio based on what you think euro PGs SHOULD look like in stature. we're not talking about a jj barea sized dude here.

rubio's wingspan is considered to be freakish for a point guard : 6'9". that's rajon rondo country. higher than most every PG in the league. its part of what makes ricky such a good defender.

for the record, that's only a couple inches shorter than durant's tarantula arms.

yup, those long arms are mostly why he can make those sexy passes....but as underweight as durant and prince are, rubio is alot more underweight and less athletic than they are. I think he has some good tools, but unless he can get stronger and can pull his head out from his a$$, then he's going to be a fail.

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Exactly. Sometimes guys in the Euro league do not always start over there, so basing what the guy is capable of by his stint over there is very inaccurate. He may turn out to be a very good distributor and solid player

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I would love to get an opportunity to get Rubio on this squad. Mo Williams is a very decent point guard, and he can hold the fort down until we get a point guard that willo be a more permanent solution. But as most of us know he is not the long term answer

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Ya'll are nuts if you think Rubio is going to do anything next year, or within the next 5 years in the NBA. Over hyped, too skinny, too weak, isn't a scorer like a Jennings PG, and isn't a true passer like a Nash, Calderon, Kidd etc.

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Not sure about all this Rubio love. He hasnt done anything in two years at all, cant even start on his own team. He is coming to the nba because he doesn't play much on his home team and his stock keeps falling. Most analyst say he wouldnt even be in the top 15 in this weak draft.

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ekker3 wrote:
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He's too weak! His arms are just too thin, he'll get destroyed by even the weakest guards.

that's what they said about tayshaun prince and kevin durant...and they play a more physical position.

and its not like rubio's playing against high school kids right now. dude's been matching up against grown men for years now.

#1 pick kyrie irving? not even a 1/2 year against young college players. no experience, 6'3" 191lbs, yet people say he's ready. rubio's bigger than him yet people are screaming he's too thin.

AMERICAN BIAS.

I don't know if its bias necessarily. Its not like there's no reason to be a little sceptical about highly hyped European prospects. Not many of them have really panned out previously. The only legit stars from Europe in the NBA right now are Dirk and Pau. (Not counting Manu because he isn't from Europe). Marc Gasol is also very good, but not a star yet. There's been a bunch of other high draft picks out of Europe that have been busts or, if not busts, not much better than medicore. People were telling me that Jaric was the greatest thing ever before he got over here and look how that turned out. I'm not saying Rubio won't be good, but I do have my doubts. And, for the record, those doubts are not based on the fact Rubio is from Spain, but are based on what I've actually seen of him on the court.

(And I recognize that, for every Euro bust in the NBA, there's probably 2 or more American busts).

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ive already had my say on how skinny players can succeed in the nba (hell rondo's 6'1", 170ish and he's doing pretty well). true, he isnt a scorer like jennings, but jennings isnt a passer like rubio. i do believe he's on par with kidd and calderon in the passing department (no one's ever gonna match nash there) and think he's a much much better defender than calderon and nash.

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its an interesting trend, but could it be that his achievement of reaching the nba has caused him to lay off a bit? i think the dude's set on his next challenge (the nba).

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even with the downward trend the past 2 years, he was still voted the spanish league's best PG, all-league, won league (a couple games away from a back to back) and national tournaments titles, euroleague title, etc. blah blah blah.

and its not like he's being benched because of his poor play. barca's using a deep bench this year had ricky's still getting his fair share of starters minutes. again, dude's only 20.

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ClipfanSince88 wrote:
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He's too weak! His arms are just too thin, he'll get destroyed by even the weakest guards.

that's what they said about tayshaun prince and kevin durant...and they play a more physical position.

and its not like rubio's playing against high school kids right now. dude's been matching up against grown men for years now.

#1 pick kyrie irving? not even a 1/2 year against young college players. no experience, 6'3" 191lbs, yet people say he's ready. rubio's bigger than him yet people are screaming he's too thin.

AMERICAN BIAS.

I don't know if its bias necessarily. Its not like there's no reason to be a little sceptical about highly hyped European prospects. Not many of them have really panned out previously. The only legit stars from Europe in the NBA right now are Dirk and Pau. (Not counting Manu because he isn't from Europe). Marc Gasol is also very good, but not a star yet. There's been a bunch of other high draft picks out of Europe that have been busts or, if not busts, not much better than medicore. People were telling me that Jaric was the greatest thing ever before he got over here and look how that turned out. I'm not saying Rubio won't be good, but I do have my doubts. And, for the record, those doubts are not based on the fact Rubio is from Spain, but are based on what I've actually seen of him on the court.

(And I recognize that, for every Euro bust in the NBA, there's probably 2 or more American busts).

point taken but i dont think a euro player's been this hyped since drazen came over. and once he got his fair share of playing time dude blew the league up. kinda unfair to put comparisons with jaric and rubio since jaric was a relative unknown in the states (and never played in spain before the nba).

i hear you, though. there's always gonna be doubts. but i feel the clipshow need to take a risk on this one.

pick and roll with griffin, all day every day.

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^one of the 3 assists that he averaged that game haha

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ekker3 wrote:
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ricky rubio is the truth, yall are biased!

When Rubio is an All Star, i'm gona call out every single person who doubted him lol.

exactly. lighter version jason kidd? at the very least a smaller shaun livingston before injury?

then they'll look back and see mo williams was the starter on that 2011 roster.

imo, its trade the minny pick for rubio or package it for an elite PG (deron or cp3). one of those is easier to accomplish.

here you go again LOL... still think we should have picked rubio?

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How are you guys so high on a guy that according to scouts has failed to improve over the past two years and has never played in America? When he first popped up everyone thought he was a prodigy based on his potential but as of right now he hasnt gotten any better.. he hasnt began to live up to the potential that was talked about 3 years ago.. dont you think its possible that he was a great young player who reached his ceiling at a young age and because he had so much natural talent doesnt think he has to put in the hard work to get better? Every one was praising him when he was so young, that might have gone to his head.. (think TMac) And while TMac did have some great years, hes basically a role player now..

But if Rubio does become the most amazing player in the world or even half of what he was originally claimed to be, ill totally be the first to eat my words and admit that i was wrong. im just not going to kiss his feet and call him the truth or anything like that until he has done something... as of right now he is just a skinny kid who can pass a ball well

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^seriously...i dont get how people expect him to be good when he couldnt be even remotely good last season.... but wat ever let ppl give him a bunch of hype, i just cant wait for him to be then next olawakandi just without all that talent.

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Hyperbole on both sides and somewhere in the middle lies the truth. In fact, I think the side that are branding him as a bust have less of a leg to stand on. Most of the people I bet, haven't seen him play enough but that isn't stopping them. His PG skills are undeniable and he was touted as one of the best talents in the same Draft Griffin was in so let's not pretend the guy has no talent. I think he can make the transition and eventually make a name for himself but I don't know how far he can take it.

Like I said, some where amongst all the hyperbole, lies the truth.

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Rubio and Blake on the pick and roll would be... words escape me. Just the thought of it though, makes me smile.

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Just trade that stupid pick for a SF NOW, before Minny turn into a 30-win team! What good will it be to have the 7th pick next year and end up with someone like Michael Gilchrist!?

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"wow now that's an "in your face" comment with the assumption that you know my basketball watching schedule. Laughing thank you for streaming, espn3.

of course ive seen him play live and yes ive seen him play against NBA competition. i never said he'd be a HOF - im only comparing his game to jason kidd's. its not ricky's fault he plays a similar type game, nor is it his fault that american basketball fans tend to not take european point guards that seriously.

but then again everyone and their mother compares draft picks to nba greats. its no question that people log into nba draft site for that very reason. "

Live as in real life in person. Also if Rubio averages those projected stats (I dont think thats happening and how about that Fg%), then he is well worth but I would rather have Bledsoe who has shown he can perform at the NBA level already (watch that Washington game again if you wanna salivate at a player's potential)

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BTW, that pick and roll video shows exactly why Euro players often dont make it over here. The style of play is way different, that defense was attrocious even with Fran Vazquez moving like molasses thru the paint.

I am not saying Ricky Rubio is a bust and never have said that, but I do think he hasnt proved much beyond he is a talented passer and might be able to play in the NBA successfully. I am all for getting him here, but not at a huge price tag and Bledsoe is still where i put my money.

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gotcha.

i still think rubio's better than running the show at this point, but we'll see how bledsoe pans out (his mind's racing at al thornton type levels).

as for that washington game, i hope that's a sign of true potential and not just a version of mike taylor's game in new york.

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fair enough. its definitely a risk, but i think the minny pick's not giving up too much considering the pieces we already have and that the SF can had be had in other ways.

but what an assumption im making considering rubio's never gonna be traded to us anyways.

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