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Thoughts?

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doubtful

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It didn't say us.

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Matt Money from Fox Sports Radio just said from his sources that Dwight is now engaged to a Southern California girl named Christine Vest (Played hoops at Chico State). She's pursuing a music career and she loves So Cal a lot and she's encouraging Dwight to come to LA.

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ah, those laker fans.

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Not happening for us. Plus, if we're going to pick up a superstar, I'd rather it be D. Will or CP3. Dwight and Blake would get in each other's way.

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ekker3 wrote:
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Matt Money from Fox Sports Radio just said from his sources that Dwight is now engaged to a Southern California girl named Christine Vest (Played hoops at Chico State). She's pursuing a music career and she loves So Cal a lot and she's encouraging Dwight to come to LA.

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ah, those laker fans.

They'll probably get him while we're still contemplating on whether or not to include Aminu in a deal for Iggy.. Razz

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If D12 is coming to Los Angeles he's playing for the Lakers, not us. We'd have to get rid of DeAndre Jordan for 1, 2 we dont have the assets or cap room to go after him.

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He'd be crazy to go to the Lakers. They have maybe one more year before they fall apart. He'll be left there alone on a rebuilding team. The ship is sinking.

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He would have at least a two year window to get a ring now, be in a better city(mainly), and be the next to take the torch from kobe.

What does the magic have around him now, or can offer him that is equal or better?

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That ship doesn't sink very well.

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tense2 wrote:
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He'd be crazy to go to the Lakers. They have maybe one more year before they fall apart. He'll be left there alone on a rebuilding team. The ship is sinking.

That ship doesn't sink very well.

Seriously, and everyone seems to just jump up at the opportunity to fix it when it actually starts to sink.

The punk A$$ Lakers are always just one move away from a snowball effect of good fortune. A free agent will get there. Others seem to catch the vapors, and the next thing you know.......they're making one deal that completes the puzzle, and their team is a loaded playoff squad.

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Well Elton Brand basically left everything he had going in LA because his wife wanted to live near family on the east coast, I wouldn't be surprised if Dwight was similarly influenced. A few months ago I would've said the Lakers were a lock, but after Kobe's comments about Bynum, along the lines of "He needs to fall into line, I'm number 1, Pau's number 2...", I don't think Dwight wants be the 2nd or 3rd banana, he wants to be the main guy.

Who knows, weirder things have happened.

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PTI today Wilbon suggests Clippers hold the appropriate assets to trade for Dwight so forget iggy.....Lets get it done!!

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^^^ And did he specify what assets? I'm guessing Kaman, Aminu and the Minny pick? Even though I have some concerns about how Dwight and Blake would co-exist on the floor, I suppose I'd give up all that for D12.

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Dwight and Blake could easily co-exist. Dwight plays back to the basket and on the block. Blake doesnt just hang on the block, he likes to slash, likes to pop out and play mid post. They would be a fearsome duo, and wow if we did that, just wow. But I am not getting my hopes up, lol.

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We would probably have to throw in Eric Gordon too, or Deandre Jordan (that would be better).

Even if we were left with a core of Dwight Howard, Blake Griffin, Mo Williams and Eric Bledsoe, we would easily be way better than we were last year. Dwight by himself is worth +10-15 wins.

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No he didnt mention which assests but its nice to hear him put us in the convo. I dont think Gordon would be necessary since Dwight declared he will be testing free agency. And since he would test free agency after the upcoming season it be nice to hold onto Deandre.

Maybe a trade with Kaman, Gomes, Foye, Minny pick for Dwight and Turkoglu.... i think absorbing Hedo large contract will grease the wheels on the trade and really facilitate things.(Although after this season I grew to really respect Foyes game) If throwing Aminu in solidifys the transaction then sign Prince, Grant Hill, or Battier. We'd be solid at the SF with Hedo/Aminu or Hedo/(Prince, Hill) greatt contrasts of offense and defense

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"Maybe a trade with Kaman, Gomes, Foye, Minny pick" .......except for the Minny pick...that junk would get laugh at. Maybe DJ as a S/T along with Aminu or Bledsole and the Minny pick would a least get them to listen.

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My fault. I assumed everyone understood that the draft with the Minny pick is SF heavy so i dont think Aminu would be a selling point. Foye was solid all season especially when Gordon went down. Gomes is a bit of a throw in to even up salaries, and Kamans contract yr will supply a player fightin for a contract or more cap room once that season ended. There is real value there especially with the new hard cap looming so the idea of getting rid of turks contract will be too appealing to pass since no one is taking on gil arenas. My point though is Dwight is intending to test FA so we cant clear our roster for him. And quit acting like Kaman holds no value in the League, he just holds little here cause our style of play has evolved from his slow pace mid range jumper. Id throw willie warren in before Bled...... one more thing REBOUNDS = CHAMPIONSHIPS

Griffin and Howard would dominate the boards.

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do what ever it takes!

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They would want Kaman, Bledsoe, our first pick in 2012, minnys pick, maybe some other pieces like gomes or aminu, but if the clips pull the trigger, we automatically lift up into NBA elite status

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I don't know man. I don't think Orlando was elite last year. I'm not sure that the smoke clears and D12 automatically makes the Clippers elite. They just have more star power. Look at the Knicks. They certainly didn't become elite, and they teamed Amare up with Melo and Billups. In the end they just cleared out all of their role players, depth, and hustle guys to take a first round fishing trip.

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LuvMeSumMEE wrote:
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They would want Kaman, Bledsoe, our first pick in 2012, minnys pick, maybe some other pieces like gomes or aminu, but if the clips pull the trigger, we automatically lift up into NBA elite status

I don't know man. I don't think Orlando was elite last year. I'm not sure that the smoke clears and D12 automatically makes the Clippers elite. They just have more star power. Look at the Knicks. They certainly didn't become elite, and they teamed Amare up with Melo and Billups. In the end they just cleared out all of their role players, depth, and hustle guys to take a first round fishing trip.

Everyone on the Magic failed except Dwight. Turkoglu = terrible play, Jrich= so inconsistent, Gilbert Arenas = less than 10ppg, Jameer= mediocre at best, when you are relying on players like Brandon Bass and Ryan Anderson you are in trouble. They were elite until they made all those trades. They tweaked the roster too much and the ship went down.

BTW, Dwight Howard is much more impactful than Melo, Amare, and Billups combined, just look at their records. New York could barely break out of .500 after the trade.

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clipperboy24 wrote:
LuvMeSumMEE wrote:
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They would want Kaman, Bledsoe, our first pick in 2012, minnys pick, maybe some other pieces like gomes or aminu, but if the clips pull the trigger, we automatically lift up into NBA elite status

I don't know man. I don't think Orlando was elite last year. I'm not sure that the smoke clears and D12 automatically makes the Clippers elite. They just have more star power. Look at the Knicks. They certainly didn't become elite, and they teamed Amare up with Melo and Billups. In the end they just cleared out all of their role players, depth, and hustle guys to take a first round fishing trip.

Everyone on the Magic failed except Dwight. Turkoglu = terrible play, Jrich= so inconsistent, Gilbert Arenas = less than 10ppg, Jameer= mediocre at best, when you are relying on players like Brandon Bass and Ryan Anderson you are in trouble. They were elite until they made all those trades. They tweaked the roster too much and the ship went down.

BTW, Dwight Howard is much more impactful than Melo, Amare, and Billups combined, just look at their records. New York could barely break out of .500 after the trade.

You kinda just reinforced the point that I was making. Dwight Howard was exceptional, and it wasn't enough was it. New York traded their entire cast of role players away, and the big guns couldn't deliver. As you said, New York could barely break .500, right?

So, what makes you think that the Clippers would have the roster to contend after coughing up pretty much everyone to get Dwight Howard? As you saw in the playoffs this year, the stars carry you but your role players decide your season's fate. You can't trade for D12 without losing a bunch of role players, and even the draft picks are just nameless role players at this point.

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If coughing up everyone is defined by trading Kaman, Aminu or Bledsole, Gomes or Foye plus the Minny pick...that's a friggin no brainer IMO.... that's a bunch of "everyones" I can do without for the caliber of player you get in return. Our then "Big 3" would be pretty much competitive to everyone else "Big #3".... wink

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I'm not sure if anyone is aware, but no team is allowed to trade away 1st round picks 2 years in a row. We already lose 1 of ours next year, and we hold Minnesotas pick, which is officially OURS right now.

We traded this years pick to Cleveland. There was a rule made because a former owner of the Cavs traded 1st rounders all the time in the early 80's I believe. So I don't think that Minnesota pick is available for a trade. If it isn't, we'd have to give up the 2013 pick, and probably the 2015 pick ( as we can't go 2 years in a row without a 1st rounder ) for Dwight, + I'd imagine Gordon, Kaman and perhaps Aminu, or a combo of Cook & Gomes to try to make salaries match as they'd prob dump a big contract on us.

IF we can trade that Minnesota pick, which I don't think we can... We'd have to part with Kaman, Gordon, Minnesota pick and prob a future 1st rounder. Then we'd be without a SG, a SF and we'd be banking everything we have on 2 post players who still have work to be done on the offensive end. Forget their PPG avg this past season, Dwight and Griffin both have a good deal to learn on the offensive end. And I'd hate to have our only other scorer on our team be a PG. It's easier to double team in the paint and put a lot of pressure on those guys than it is if we had say Mo, Gordon on the wings, along with say Igoudala if we get him in a trade, and be able to dump the ball in the paint to Griffin, whose a great passer and can see these guys open on the wings if he runs into trouble.

Dwights a terrific player, and I'd love to have him on this team. I just don't see us trading for him unless he played out the whole next season, and we waited until the draft to try to do some sort of thing where we draft for Orlando, Dwight signs an extension and we trade other players for him.

I fully suspect Orlando to do w/e they can possibly do to surround Dwight with talent. They went to the NBA Finals with a roster highly similar to what they have now, and they got beat by a Hawks team that was really on a mission to finally get past their rival, that matchup was EASILY the hardest 1st round matchup in this years playoffs and in playoff matchups in the past few years. To be the 4 or 5 seed in the East for the next easily, 3-5 years is going to be really tough. Your going to see Atlanta, Boston, New York, Orlando, maybe even Chicago or Miami in a 4 or 5 seed playing the other 4 or 5 seed and its going to be a great series.

If Dwight goes anywhere, I wouldn't be at all surprised if New Jersey is already inquiring about him as they have a lot of draft picks and assets to work with to try to pull off a trade for Dwight. Brooke Lopez, Morrow, maybe a couple 1st rounders and maybe the Humps could get the deal done. It'd give Orlando a great offensive Center, a good young swingman in Morrow, and some picks to work with in the draft. For him to get traded out West I'd imagine it'd take a miracle for any team to pull it off, and if the Lakers trade away Gasol for Howard ( and add in something else ) the Lakers would be I think a worse team without Gasol than they are with him even adding Dwight Howard. Gasol is easily top 2 PF's in this league behind Dirk, maybe at the same level.

We make a move to try to acquire Igoudala for Kaman, and maybe toss in Aminu to sweeten the pot, or some 2nd rounders. Blowing up a team just to get Dwight Howard is not something we can afford. We'd be much better getting rid of Kaman and say Aminu or a future draft pick because we'd have Gomes, Foye, Bledsoe, possibly Aminu coming off the bench, with our 2nd rounders this year, with Mo Wills, Gordon, Iggy, Blake and DeAndre starting. If we trade for Dwight we'd have Mo, Blake and Dwight starting, with DeAndre & Bledsoe as our only 2 real bench players, and Gomes or Aminu would start, and probably Randy Foye. We'd have little depth and we'd have to hope and pray Mo Williams, Griffin and Howard would be able to play large minutes the entire year, remain healthy the entire year, and be able to play even MORE minutes in the playoffs.

I'd rather pursue an Igoudala trade, or try to acquire a Jason Richardson, Caron Butler or Tayshaun prince via free agency and build more depth on this roster rather than throwing the kitchen sink at Orlando and more than likely losing Eric Gordon in the process.

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^^Could be remedied IF the FO traded our 2 second rounders this year for a low 1st rounder in 2012??

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The rule is only forward thinking. We can trade the Wolves pick after this years draft since we'll either have our own 2012 pick or our 2013 pick.

The Magic will also wait until the middle of the season to trade Howard I believe. They can't trade him without giving the team one more chance to win big. Trading him before the deadline makes the most sense and also opens us up to including DeAndre Jordan in a deal. Having a deal base around Jordan, Aminu, Bledsoe, and the Wolves pick is as good as it gets for the Magic.

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We would still be left with Blake Griffin and at least one other player like Mo Williams, Bledsoe, Kaman etc. who would be huge helps for us. The Magic still won a huge amount of games even with the rest of the players basically detracting from Dwight's efforts, thats what I am saying. I never said he alone could win a championship but he alone = playoffs. That would be worth it because signing players would be easy at that point, who wouldnt want to play with thos two? We would have cap room and potentially whatever bad contract player they threw our way as well.

Even if all we had was Blake and Dwight, that equals a playoff roster even if rounded out by scrubs. People seem to forget we have made the playoffs twice in the last 15 years. We need to start by making the playoffs before we can win in the playoffs. This would be a huge first step.

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LuvMeSumMEE wrote:
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He'd be crazy to go to the Lakers. They have maybe one more year before they fall apart. He'll be left there alone on a rebuilding team. The ship is sinking.

That ship doesn't sink very well.

Seriously, and everyone seems to just jump up at the opportunity to fix it when it actually starts to sink.

The punk A$$ Lakers are always just one move away from a snowball effect of good fortune. A free agent will get there. Others seem to catch the vapors, and the next thing you know.......they're making one deal that completes the puzzle, and their team is a loaded playoff squad.

After the experiment in Miami fails, Lebron will take his talents to Los Angeles where he will join forces with Dwight Howard and win their first rings together. There won't be room in front of the Staples Center for all of the statues. With the exception of Bill Russell, all the great centers eventually end up on the Lakers.

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at this point since D12 is opting out after next season i would continue to develop the young talent on the roster this year and take a shot at him in free agency. Blake and EJ would be the sweetner for him to possibly join the Clipps its a very remote possibility, I just wouldn't want to unload every bit of talent on the roster for a one year rental, and unfortunately with the Clippers luck he would bolt and sign with the Lakers. (which would hurt more than finding out that DTS Is gonna live for another 100 years).

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would love to see Dwight on this team...also if the clips could add Galinari, and K Love some how and dwill.....we would be awesome!

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LuvMeSumMEE wrote:
tense2 wrote:
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He'd be crazy to go to the Lakers. They have maybe one more year before they fall apart. He'll be left there alone on a rebuilding team. The ship is sinking.

That ship doesn't sink very well.

Seriously, and everyone seems to just jump up at the opportunity to fix it when it actually starts to sink.

The punk A$$ Lakers are always just one move away from a snowball effect of good fortune. A free agent will get there. Others seem to catch the vapors, and the next thing you know.......they're making one deal that completes the puzzle, and their team is a loaded playoff squad.

It wasn't always that way. They went through pretty long (for them) stretch of mediocrity in the early to mid-1990s after Magic had to retire. But the fact that they were able to get back to the top so quickly after the team completely blew up in 2004 is pretty amazing.

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so... we'd have

dwill

gordon

galinari

griffin

d12

with klove coming off the bench?

marten81
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Have drose instead of klove of the bench, and have him sub for all positions, if they all settle for 10 mil a season we can have a 6 man lineup with some mils over for bench playaz, Im sure thisll happen, why wouldnt it?!

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wat

LittleClipper
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Because this isn't some magic fairy land where every super star player is begging to play for us.

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God I hope we trade for him. If there's any sort of news that will alleviate the disappointment I have felt today, it would be D-Howard being traded to the Clippers.

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CYW, where did you get your avatar from?

ClipYourWings
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Right here, bro.

http://www.nba.com/clippers/features/of ... 10615.html

Scroll down a bit and you should see a box that says "CLICK HERE FOR MORE PICTURES" or something to that effect. My avatar is basically one of their photos resized, cropped, and sharpened to fit the site's avatar standards.

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Yes I found it thank you.

By the way, i'm a girl so... bro doesn't fit me. I'm kidding, it doesn't even matter lol.

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i rather have dwill or cp3 than dwight howard. the magic would basically want to gut our team in order to trade howard to us. they would probably ask for EJ, kaman, aminu and bledsoe at least in order to get howard. hes a superstar, but he is not a in his prime shaq. we saw that a so called big three doesnt work when u have to plug past their prime players and scrubs into the team.

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I love the optimism, but Dwight isn't coming to the Clippers. Orlando as a city is in love with Howard. The Magic staff has made it blatantly obvious they want him to stay and they're willing to spend the bucks to make it happen. So in my opinion, Orland's plan A is still what it's always been: keep Howard happy. My guess is that we'll see a lot of movement during the offseason to try and do exactly that. If they fail, I think they'll put the onus on Dwight to actually walk away. He's got such a nice guy persona and he's so well liked by the city, I think they'll actually put the ball in his court (so to speak) if he wants to leave. I know this strategy didn't exactly work out for the Cavs but Orlando is in a much better position than Cleveland was with LeBron. If Dwight walks they've still got talent. They'll still win some games. They'll still have trade assets and cap room (after Dwight walks of course). It would sting but it wouldn't completely destroy the team like "The Decision" did in Cleveland.

If Dwight does get traded or ditch through free agency I think a much more likely destination is Chicago...

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sporting news posted a trade involving ellis and others on gs for dh, so now jerry west is going after dh for his new team.

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Personally i would give up everyone but blake, gordon and bledsoe for dwight

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LuvMeSumMEE wrote:
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They would want Kaman, Bledsoe, our first pick in 2012, minnys pick, maybe some other pieces like gomes or aminu, but if the clips pull the trigger, we automatically lift up into NBA elite status

I don't know man. I don't think Orlando was elite last year. I'm not sure that the smoke clears and D12 automatically makes the Clippers elite. They just have more star power. Look at the Knicks. They certainly didn't become elite, and they teamed Amare up with Melo and Billups. In the end they just cleared out all of their role players, depth, and hustle guys to take a first round fishing trip.

Orlando didn't have the Phenom that is Blake Griffin, and Gordon is better then any on Orlando's supporting cast. Not to mention they stocked up on older bad contract players while we have a young fresh squad.

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If Orlando wants to take like Gomes, Cook, Kaman, Aminu, Minnesots 1st and another 1st then awesome. Otherwise, stick with what we have. It'd be far too costly to pursue anything for D12.

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Orlando will most likely not accept that trade.

Gordon + Kaman + Minny's pick for Howard + Richardson could work.

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J Rich is a free agent, can't be traded.

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