Clipps Make Qualifying offer to DJ

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Hmmm this would potentially eat out cap right away, I take it they have some sort of deal in place right now for Igoudala and they aren't going to be testing free agent waters this summer for a Prince, Butler, AK47 or Richardson.

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^^ No, the qualifying offer is under 1 million dollars. Had they not done that, he is a FA with no strings attached which means if he signs an offer sheet, we're shyte out of luck. This also means we don't have to outbid ourselves, we'll let the market set the price. Very smart move.

Clippers locking DJ has no bearing on the Iggy trade or free agency.

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It was the only logical move.

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yeah, pretty obvious that this was gonna happen

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Expected, but always a relief to see it really happen

Greenmonk94
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what does that mean... qualifying offer.. what does that do?

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I think it means we can now match any offer he gets from other teams

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http://sports.espn.go.com/los-angeles/nba/news/story?id=6661870 July 1 is also the day the Clippers could begin negotiations on an extension with Gordon, one of their leading scorers from last year's team. If this was a normal year, all indications are that the team would do so the second the clock struck 9:01 p.m. in Los Angeles on June 30. While there was previously some uncertainty over whether Gordon would sign a long-term extension with the team after it lost 116 games his first two seasons, a source close to the situation said that much of that uncertainty has been allayed after the Clippers traded guard Baron Davis....

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^ so that article is basically saying, now that baron's gone, chances are good the EJ resigns?

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Sounds to me like the front office had worries about Gordon resigning do to him not getting along with Baron. Now it's Griffin and Gordon's team and that has to improve the situation for Gordon.

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We have approximately 15 MIL in cap space. We have 44 Mil committed to 9 players next season. I think that DJ can sign for about 30Mil over 5 years or 6 Mil per year. Which leave us about 8 Mil this summer. If we don't trade Kaman, we can sign Prince or Battier for less than that. So we are in a good spot. How much do you guys think DJ will end up signing for...5 MIl, 6 MIL, 7Mil, 8Mil, More?

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Depending on the rules of the new CBA we should hold off on signing DeAndre. His cap hold right now is only $1 million and if we can still go over the cap to sign our own players it makes sense to hold off on actually signing the new deal. We can come to terms with him, but hold off on signing him until we fill out the rest of our roster. Who knows though... the new CBA might change things.

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Well, he isn't likely to get any offers until the new CBA is in place so there won't be anything to match anyway. There is always a chance a deal can be struck without matching a free agency offer. I still want to know how much you guys think DJ is worth. How many Mil?

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Not really sure what we should start him at but 5 years about $40-$45 sounds about right. I'd love to see the team start his contract with the most money being earned in his first year and decreasing in value every year. In the next few years we're going to be giving Gordon and Griffin big deals so we might as well pay DeAndre more now.

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That's actually not a bad idea. That's how the Thunder structured Collison's contract.

Anyway, I don't think they can talk about new contracts until the CBA is sorted out. I wonder if it's anything like the NFL lockout. Cause if it is, then negotiations are considered illegal...If there is a lockout. Maybe the new CBA won't allow you to go over anything or waste the cap and then sign your players.

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The NFL's situation is different. The NFL hasn't been losing money, but they need to stop paying rookies so much. Most of 'em suck anyways. Every year, it's about 30 good ones and 6 more rounds worth of dog $HH_TT. Stop paying the rookies so much!

The NBA is hilarious. They give guaranteed money for the life of contracts, so teams are paying for all of the Greg Odens of the world. The NBA lost millions giving money out to injured retards. The players don't want to take pay cuts. The NBA only has value because of the players, so the owners almost have to lockout to prove a point. I follow college ball, but I don't want to follow it that close. The players keep refusing a hard cap and everyone wonders why there's been under 10 title winners in the last 30 years.

Hopefully they don't mess with the soft cap TOO too much. Just dump all of the guaranteed money. Make the players earn it. The NBA needs less exceptions, but not a hard cap. I just hope they don't get rid of the Bird exception. Early Bird can go though. EJ, DJ, BG, Farouq, and Bledsoe will all be Bird qualifiers pretty soon. I just like how the Bird encourages players to stay on one team.

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With them offering a option to Aminu that means Clippers don't want to trade him?

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1st round draft picks are guaranteed 2 years with the team that drafts them. Then there are team options for the next 2 seasons. The 5th and final season is the Qualifying Offer.

The options on 1st Rounders are almost always picked up. The players whose options aren't picked up have to pretty much be worthless in the league (i.e. no value to the current team or to the rest of the league). Yaroslav Korolev and Joe Alexander are a couple of players whose 3rd year options were not picked up.

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Very good idea hooch - +1!

As a second round pick, DJ hasn't yet earned over $1,000,000 in a season. If your numbers are right (and they seem pretty spot-on to me), he could get approximately $10mil next year, $9mil in '12-'13, $8mil in '13-'14 and so on...

This would give him the big payday he's been waiting on for 3 years while making him progressively more valuable to keep or trade.

Listen up, Olshey!

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I hate to be the lone decenter here, but I'm not sure DJ is worth the money. Don't get me wrong. I love this kid. He's got massive upside. But he has no offensive game to speak of (aside from his amazing ability to throw down an alleyoop, but that's as much the PG's skill set as it is his) and his free throw shooting leaves a lot to be desired. So the Clips would basically be locking up a bunch of money for hustle, defense, and highlights. Which isn't necessarily a bad thing. I just don't think those three assets justify his perceived "untouchable" status because it wouldn't be impossible to find an upgrade at his position.

As unpopular as this might be, ditto Gordon. I love this kid too but he has yet to prove that he is the closer the Clips are looking for. Yes, I know he hit a lot of tough shots down the stretch last season, especially before the wrist injury. But once opposing teams figured out that he was a legit scoring threat that's when we started seeing turn over after turnover by Gordon in the last couple of minutes of close games. I'll give him this, though. He deserves a chance to prove himself. If he can learn to hang on to the ball or find the open man a little better in clutch situations he could just be a scorer the mold Allen Iverson. And infinitely more coachable. Until then I think he remains a tremendous trade asset because again, it's not inconceivable to imagine him as part of a trade that upgrades the 2 spot or even the 1. I mean, if you had the chance to ship Mo Williams and Gordon for Derron Williams you'd have to at list think about it. (I have no idea what their respective current contracts look like. I'm just thinking purely in terms of comparable talent.)

The nice thing about the Clippers' position with both DJ and EJ as that it's a win win. If they trade either or both, they'll likely get someone of equal or greater value in return, and if they sign them both long term (even for a lot of money) both players look promising enough that the Clips should be able to turn those contracts into more wins and entertaining ball.

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We CAN sign battier for less than that idd, i dont think we can sign prince for less than that. He got over 11 mil last year, and he hasn't really been degressing massively or so. If i where him i'd try to get a v good 2~3 season deal anywhere.

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Thus far Olshey's moves have only neutralized each other. I like his idea of shoring up the point guard position by drafting Eric Bledsoe, which was my biggest concern due to B Davis. However, he unwisely used the first pick on Aminu and brought in a lot of jorney men like Gomes, Foye, and Cook.

However, I must say that I am pleased by these recent qualifying offers. This is a god move by Olshey and the front office that if our young players do leave it is not because we didn't offer deals and try to keep them in house. It's the first step in keeping talent and reversing our history of letting young players leave. Still, a quality small forward must be brought in to convinve me and demonstarte that Olshey and this club are serious, because so far all the moves made have only served to keep what we have and last years record proved that who we have on the roster is not enough. Olshey needs to trade Kaman for a good small forward to build a positive reputation for himself

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