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Hey all,

Clippers are on this list - it's a Suns' article - but would you move Kaman/Bledsoe for Nash if he stays for a total of 3 years?

LAC would win more games in the final moments with Nash a la Cassell?

Not sure if Suns would want Kaman/Aminu/Mo frankly which would be preferable over losing Bledsoe.

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you would rather give up mo then bledsoe? cuz of age or what is your reasoning on that one?

clipperboy24
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trading mo, AFA, and Kaman for Nash, Lopez and Pietrus is a no brainer imo. Lopez would be a great backup big who could hold down the C position with Deandre. Pietrus is a great fit as a good defender and good outside shooter and seems like he has a great attitude. And Nash, although older would be a great mentor for Bledsoe and could help get that mature winning perspective on the team. Man, I would love that trade. If Gortat and Kaman could play together that could be a decent fit in Phoenix, AFA has upside and Mo is solid, but the Clipps would get the upper hand on that one.

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I'm not sold on Bledsoe but I'd rather keep him an send Mo to Phoenix. Man, I'd love to get Nash in Clips uni.

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If you have a Nash/Bledsoe combo at point you're good and you have the young kid still who has shown some real upside - If you had Mo/Nash you're more veteran and you can argue better able to win now - it's six and one half dozen - just a matter of preference

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I suggested picking up Nash sometime last year, but I had no idea his value was so diminished.

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No why would this young team want a 40 year old pg. He plays no defense anymore and has maybe 2 good years left. Whats the point with him I dont see us winning a championship. The best move is find a way to trade for cp3. HE will leave NO anyway kinda like melo last year. Trade kaman, bledsoe, and a first for him.

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You would want Nash because, even at his age, he's still one of the best playmakers and shooters in the game, has a super high basketball IQ, always plays hard, and is a great on-floor leader. Our team is althetic enough that the other four guys on the floor at any given time should be able to pick up the slack for Nash's lack of defensive prowess. I think that if he could pretty much split time with Bledsoe, at least early in the season (if there is a season), he could be an incredible asset to our team. Assuming Gordon, Griffin and Jordan are all improved players when they next step on the floor, who's to say the team couldn't be a competitor with Nash in the line up.

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I agree I would love nash but at age 40 he isnt going to make this team into a contender. It would be a cassell thing all over again. Make a strong showing the first year then who knows what happens the next. I say we stay pat with this team either trade kaman and get iggy or just draft a small forward in a incredible draft class. If their is no year its probably best for this young team anyway. All the elite teams got a year older and slower and we would be getting two top ten picks. Our pick is protected so it would work out perfect for this team.

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I would never do this trade. Nash missed some games last year and when you have to lie on your back because it hurts during games-no. First we need the lock out to end. I believe we have cap space and may get a good deal from a team over the cap. We can use our space and or Kaman maybe to pull a three team deal. How about a Kaman, Minny pick and Mo to NO for CP3. They would have 20 mill coming off the books with Kaman and Mo having one more year and a draft pick to rebuild that franchise. CP3, EG and Blake would be great. The get a serviceable SF-like Battier or Prince. Some report I read said Prince wants to stay back east though.

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I would try and do this deal with the alternate package of Kaman, Aminu and Willams...if they don't accept, move on and set your sites on trying to acquire CP3.

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win now do watever it takes. winning will make blake happy

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on top of the fact that he spreads the floor letting gordon, griffin, and jordan have space to slash and sit next to the hoop. The guy can flat out shoot. top 10 ALL TIME 3 pt percentage. The GREATEST free throw shooter of all time. Plus if it doesn't work short term, then he is trade bait. A point guard that creates and can shoot is a better trade chip then a center that can't stay healthy for more than a half of a season (Average over the last 4 years). A point guard's defensive inefficiency is perhaps the easiest to hide with a strong defensive middle.

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Steve Nash would be an amazing addition to the team. He's exactly the piece we would need to get into the playoffs. Leadership, passing, long distance shooting & experience.

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bledsoe/kaman/afa for nash, oh hell yeah id do that in a heartbeat.

nash might be older, but he's an anomaly since he takes very good care of his body. but then again, there's no telling how much the regarded phoenix training staff has to do with it.

still, if we can get nash and keep EJ, Blake, and DJ?

DROOL.

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Blake and Eric Gordon would have so many open shots. He has a very very high iq.... I see a lot of dunks coming in the near future.

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I would be torn on this one. As a "senior"member of this board (and by senior I mean old fart) I know what happens as your bod ages. There is something nasty about turning 40. All those deals you hurt as a kid come back at once. The broken bones and sprained and pulled parts all start to remind you of them and how you got there.

But NAsh is an anomoly. Let's say for an instant Blake really will be gone ,as everyone else in the universe says except we Clipper fans, in 3-4 years. IF that were true we have a small window of opportunity to get that playoff bid and even win. MAybe even winning insures a Griffin for the next decade. If one-two years of a Steve Nash will do it,,,then do it. I am sure he has 1-2 more good years left before he joins me on the recliner.

Blake and EJ would go nuts.

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ill do it in ta heart beat.. kaman bledsoe for nash... thats the playoffs fursure!!!!!

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It's going to have to be Bledsoe who would be traded. Phoenix isn't going to budge until they see young pieces on the table.

If we do trade for him; in two years, we could pick up a good SF, and then use the Minni pick for Drummond if he's avaliable.

PG - Nash

SG - Prime Gordon

SF - Prince/Butler/Hill/ect...

PF - Prime Griffin

C - Drummond

Guys, we might have a title contender here.

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knowing our luck, nash would probably get a nagging groin strain to start the year and sit out 75% of the season, our training staff to no avail.

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Hasn't Nash already been dealing with a nagging back injury the last couple of seasons? I don't think a breaking down 40 year old PG is the answer.

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Iggy, cp3, D.Will or bust lol

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Kaman and Bledsoe for Nash? I would do it even at his age. He still has 3 years left in his tank due to his style of play and he would coexist perfectly with our guys. We can always draft a young PG for Nash to mentor.

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What was the age of our PG the last time we were in the playoffs?

I'd be all for it too. Although I would only want one of the two (Bledsoe/Aminu) to be sent. I think it could be done that way. I'd rather see Aminu go than Bledsoe. I think our team could be quite good if we signed Prince/Battier at SF, traded for Nash, and then resigned DJ. Nash is the ideal fit at PG for Blake Griffin. He's played with a very similar inside player in Amare, can throw lobs all day long, and can knock down an outside shot. He also keeps defenses on their toes by being able to penetrate and create his own shot, instead of the defense just collapsing in and focusing on the bigs like they've been able to the past couple years. Our team has a LOT of young talent, but I think it can use some choice veteran leadership. Guys with a work ethic like Blake has.

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One thing everybody is forgetting. We have only one shooter. Why worry about spreading the floor when nobody except EJ can hit a three. Nash would be better playing with Kaman than DJ. At least CK can hit from midrange. If we how ever get Nash, Kaman is gone unfortunately. All DJ can hit is his toe when he dunks. You can't expect BG to be a shooter. Nash is a pass first guy. How old is the Cat?. Where's Sprewell?

We get Nash we give up Mo' or at least he's on the bench. Let Mo play #2 but EJ can't play three and vice versa. Nash isn't the answer. It's a SF who can shoot. Ig what's his name isn't the answer (no Iverson pun).I won't make any Rambler jokes.

If we've overcome the usual Clipper luck. AFA will again be a shooter.

You have all seen Clipper luck

It's just like a cluster f**k.

To his Hipness is seems clear

that we need Grant Hill next year

and as far as Igudala's

shooting it won't make you holla'

Grant's a young 38. Mo' EJ and Hill and KAMAN can shoot and. EJ and BG can slash. Maybe Bledsoe can shoot. Gomes isn't a bad bench guy. Remember he had the worst yr of his career.

Get Hill and leave everything alone. Phoenix is history and if the $$ be right we'll see that this is the place to play

Last yr: 30 min/game; 48.6% fg %; 39.5% 3 pt; 4.2 boards; 13 ppg; FT% 80% and a guy with a great work ethic

This is a no brainer

As far as BG, won't he have to go through RFA first? If DTS weren't already circumcised, he do it to keep BG. He probably isn't using it any way except to screw the Clipps.

ekker3
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steve nash = the greatest pure shooter in nba history. fact.

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Ekker, you are 100% correct but my point was that he passes first. That's his strength. He spreads the floor --but-- he has nobody to pass to (to whom to pass) outside except EJ

He doesn't shoot except at crunch. He's not a first option.

Definately EJ

Then there's SF who we don't have -- no.

PF-- BG' not a long range shooter-- nyet,

Center, if it's DJ -- non

CK so-so

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fair enough - but i wouldnt necessarily label nash as a pass-first guard. that would assume he only shoots if the pass isnt there. he's more like a "whatever option is open" type PG and would be EXCEPTIONAL at whatever the situation forces him to do.

but yeah, we need more shooters. even though he's not exactly a pure shooter, battier would be a SOLID addition. roger mason's a free agent too.

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If I hear "we need more shooters" one more time, my figurative gray hairs are going to turn literal.

I don't think people really understand how incredible it would be to have Nash. He can play like Baron Davis OR Mo Williams, depending on the situation. Nash is the best shooter in history. Period. Gordon can also hit from long range. Having two consistent long range threats is more than enough for this team, especially given who our primary scoring option is. Picking up Nash and signing a 3 that can come off the bench and spot up behind the arc would give us 15+ wins instantly.

A Nash-Gordon-Aminu-Griffin-Jordan would be terrifying to play against.

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I believe Sam was 36. Of course, we only had one good run before he started breaking down.

The point is the Clippers should be thinking about building a contender that is in it year after year. With a young core of Griffin, Gordon, and Jordan they have a chance to do that.

Nash might help the Clippers make the playoffs the next season, but he won't make the team championship contenders overnight. Also when Griffin/Gordon start hitting their prime years, Nash will be out of the league by then.

It is better to hold onto trade assets for something more long term.

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We need more shooters Twisted Evil

Rogaine or Grecial Formula?

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please no on the bolded part because that means he's hurt, overweight, shooting bad shots, ONLY playing well against big teams, and under performing 90% of the game.

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Ricky wrote:
The point is the Clippers should be thinking about building a contender that is in it year after year. With a young core of Griffin, Gordon, and Jordan they have a chance to do that.

Griffin, Gordon, and Jordan make us as much of a contender as Michael Beasley, Kevin Love, and Johnny Flynn make Minnesota a contender. A good basketball team succeeds due to the sum of its parts, not the converse. This young core isn't going to stay if we don't start making post-season berths, and who would blame them for leaving? If management postpones making deals that make us a better team because of some misguided sense of "Our young players will always get better over the summer, like a video game!", the Clippers are going nowhere.

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Nash might help the Clippers make the playoffs the next season, but he won't make the team championship contenders overnight. Also when Griffin/Gordon start hitting their prime years, Nash will be out of the league by then.

You underestimate Nash's ability to make everyone around him better. Seriously. He doesn't rely on athleticism... Nash is an entirely cerebral player. The last part of your game that goes is your shooting touch, and this man is the greatest shooter of all time. You put him beside Eric Gordon and Blake griffin and his assists are going right back up to 13 APG.

I'm thoroughly shocked some of you are against this move. Mo Williams is a terrible PG whose only useful ability is spotting up from behind the arc. Bledsoe is a combo guard who is playing out of position out of necessity, and his jump shot is about as reliable as Aminu's handles.

Dealing for Nash seems like a no-brainer to me.

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I bet it's 'cause he's Canadian. Razz Could you imagine he and Dirk still together?

Anyway I agree that anyone in their right mind or even me would agree that having Steve is a no brainer. He'd be able to provide leadership that a young team needs. A second year player, BG should not be the leader. Mo' ain't the guy.Nash would make any team better with the exception of the triangle MAYBE. As far as athleticism, we forget the difference between athleticism (Vince Carter) and an athlete (Nash) Is he the best fit No, I still like Hill BUT--

Who do we have that they want? They're rebuilding and wouldn't want CK or DJ for that matter. No-Brainer if we can give them something. Does he have a "no trade" clause in his contract?

Beasley would be perfect but he's a head case.

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The only way they'd want Chris is to trade him again because of his expiring contract. AFA is worthless now because of his slump and may turn out to be a bust. While Phx may still run a run and gun, Bledsoe isn't the distributor to make it work. The only answer is a multiple team trade

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It is not that I don't think Nash will help. But rather it is because I think we can do better. I think it is best to hold onto our trade assets because I feel we have legit shot to get a CP3 or D-Will here.

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^^ You should put that in the "Everything" forum.

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