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With the trade dealine about 7 weeks away (Feb 21?), and the Ron Artest trade dead as a doornail, we might as well start an ongoing conversation about the lastest trade rumor for Corey Maggette. We will probably have a new one every week to consider. Hek, maybe every day. The lastest report has a conversation going down between the Clips and San Antonio centered around a possible trade for Brent Barry and Beno Udrih. Brent is second in the league in shooting percentage from beyond the arc and has lit it up the couple of games I saw him play this season. Both teams deny there is a deal brewing, just conversation. The problem for Corey is that he wants to start. At San Antonio, not only would he not start, they say his minutes would probably be less than with the Clippers. This is a problem for Corey. To get a trade to a team that would start him, he might end up with a bottom dweller in a town he doesn't like and with a franchise that might not be all that fun. There could be a price to pay for a starting job. He might be better off trying to stay here. He is oh so close to earning back his job as a starter. And the fans love hime here. What say you, Clipper fans?

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I can see Corey wearing many NBA uniforms but not the Spurs uniform...He simply doesn't fit well with the black, sad Spur uniform.Corey isn't a great defender so I doubt if Popovich wants a player like Corey.Furthermore, as you say JamFan, he won't be a starter and it's what corey really wants...

Anyone watched the Grizzlies game yesterday?I watched because obviously there were playing three spaniards but what I wanna remark is the great game of Mike Miller...6 3-pointers if I'm not wrong.He's definetelly a shooter and I would consider him if we had to trade Corey

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I agree wit JamFan - It'd be [expletive]ed-up if Corey leaves He's been & still IZ a huge part of this team's heart & soul! L.A. is a very special place. And to me the Clippers are mo' than jus' LA's other team. This franchise is my life! I know betta dayz be comin'! BUT I really wanted Corey to be there when the Clips make history.. 'Cause if he ain't a part of it, it won't be the same.. To me, Corey for the Clippers, is what Kobe is for the Lakers. And even more... “It’s tough being a Clipper. Nobody likes the....

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If we have to trade Corey, I don't think we need a Beno cuz we already have Shaun, Sam & Daniel.

We don't need another point.

And besidez I would rather have Mike Miller instead of Brent Barry.

But I think it would be best if we kept CMagg

But If Not get Mike Miller

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All good thoughts, guys. As long as Corey keeps playing well, whether or not he starts, we are going to continue to hear new trade rumors. The next one is coming tomorrow. Some old ones may start up again, like Mike Miller. I think we will hear rumors with Chicago and Philly as well. Per minutes played, Corey is one of the most efficient players in the NBA, and comparable to Elton's stats per minute played. That means teams will be interested. He is young and his prime is just ahead of him. All this is the reason we should consider keeping him and go out, like Benoit said, and get an available free agent NBA veteran shooter like Keith Van Horn or Nick Van Exel. Or like I have been proposing, trading a second tier player, and a first round pick (and we have extra we do not need) to get a player like Mike Miller. Either of these scenarios deepens our lineup, and getting deeper is something we need to do bad.

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I read that Van Horn wan't interested in playing anymore...He has earned many money...Van Exel must be in the same situation but if I'm not wrong he's a great friend of Sam Cassell...They know each other since the university so maybe he could be more interested

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Sam Cassell and Nick Van Excel on the same team... old school swagger for sure. Wink

As for the San Antonio trade - a resounding NO. From a quality perspective Brent Barry is nowhere close to Corey Maggette. Who is Beno Udrih? In the words of Kobe, am I suppose to know this guy? Brent Barry is starting to show signs of age and has lost a step. I could not see either of the two penciled in as starters; what the Clippers need is someone of legitimate all-star talent, not two role players. The Clipper bench is already deep enough as it is.

Besides, why in the world would you want to make a championship contender even stronger!? At least with Sactown you don't have a rival catapulted to a divisional crown merely by trading Maggette.

The thought of trading with the Spurs is infinitaely worse than JR Smith for CMagg -- and I was against that.

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If we signed a free agent veteran, a Euro shooter, or D league player, it would be for a shooter to come off the bench for instant offense. If you were lucky enough to get a starter by just signing someone, that would be a miracle. If we trade Corey and other assets, it would for a player that is good enough to be a starter, otherwise, why bother. I do not think that Elgin is so hot to trade Corey unless he gets quality in return. Otherwise, Corey would probably already be gone.

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Agreed.

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Yeah that guy from the D League sounded pretty good, but don't we already have someone like that named Yaroslav Korolev? Isn't he supposed to be a good 3 point shooter? Maybe the Clippers should send him down to the D League and see what kind of #'s he puts up.

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I think we need to get on from the trade rumors. We have the pieces we proved it last year. Corey is an important piece to the puzzle. He and Dunleavy should just get on with it and win. Hopefully we have made the turn and good things will come. Iverson is the only other player I would of traded Maggette for. But thats the past. Maggette is a scorer and we need one, he gets to the stripe at will. Does he frustrate me with his jump shot? of course but the guy gives it his all. What more can we ask for from a player? He has stayed true to the Clippers and the nation through good times and bad times, we should be loyal to him as well.

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I agree with David. It seems it would better to have Yaroslav in the D league playing against competition than sitting at age 20 at the end of the bench never getting to play. But those decisions are probably being made by Dumleavy and we can't expect much creative thinking there. Better yet, send Yaroslav to the D, and recall Guillermo Diaz from Europe who is hitting over 60% from the field and over 50% from the 3. Wait a minute, this all sounds to easy.

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Did anyone notice that Ron Artest "finally" went for 39 points last night. Good shooting percentage and he hit all of his free throws. Had 8 rebs and 5 steals. 39 was a career high. I guess it goes to show that Ron is capable, but he is only is showing up 1 game out of 20. His prior game he scored........uh........zero.

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I'd still take Artest in a second. And I think the Clippers would too if he was offered. For all of us hoping that Maggette and "Dumb-leavy" could work things out...it's not looking good. This is from todays Orange County Register:

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Benoit_Benjamin wrote:
I'd still take Artest in a second. And I think the Clippers would too if he was offered. For all of us hoping that Maggette and "Dumb-leavy" could work things out...it's not looking good. This is from todays Orange County Register:

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"When asked if he thought he would be with the Clippers through the remainder of this season, Maggette said emphatically, “No, I won’t be here.’’ Maggette has expressed to the Clippers his desire to be traded and the Clippers have been open to his agent, Rob Pelinka, contacting various teams to see what interest they have. “I don’t want to make my issue a big thing with the team,” Maggette said. “At the end of the day, I have to stay professional and play basketball.’’

Well I suppose that pretty much cinches it. I hope they don't feel any pressure to get good value by the trade deadline since if they don't get good offers they should just keep him till the end of the season and maybe trade him in the off season.

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Artest for Maggette isn't a bad trade -- provided Dunlevy can get some answers directly from Artest.

Namely: Do you like it in Sacramento? If not, why? What do you think of the Clippers organization? What do you think of Dunlevy's system? What do you think you can contribute to the team?

If the Clippers could get good, honest answers from Artest than this would be the best trade Elgin can get midseason.

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Mike Miller 9 3 pointers!!!Are you looking for a shooter?I guess that the Grizz aren't going to trade him only for Magg right now...

About Artest I only can say that no news are good news

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There are a lot of great basketball players out there. So why would you trade a great player like Maggette who consistantly goes out and does his job with great efficiency, for Ron Artest, who actually has only had one good season in his career. Every other season he has either been hurt, suspended, or disruptive to his team. Elgin summed it up the other day. We are not trading for Ron Artest. It's dead. And he is right.

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One major publication is again speculating that Ray Allen is available. Seattle has lost 9 out of their last 10. They need to rebuild. They need to dump salary because not enough fans are showing up. The team is being sold. The team might be moving. They need a new arena. This all adds up to Ray maybe being on the block. They will then build around Rashard Lewis. When Ray was a free agent, there was speculation that he wanted to come to LA because of his Hollywood connections and the desire to go into acting in the off season and when he retires. He reportedly wants a big stage. Corey might go to Seattle, along with the extra first round pick we got that belongs to Minnesota (or our own pick) and with Rebraca's expiring contract. If Rebraca get healthy enough to play they would use him, since they are having big man trouble. Let's see if we hear more about this. Ray Allen is the anti Ron Artest. He has an excellent work ethic, he is a team leader in the locker room. He is an excellent outside shooter. I think he is a perfect fit. Think about it, if you had Ron Artest, would you trade him for Ray Allen? Yeah, in a New York minute. What do you think guys?

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Ray Allen, no doubt about it. Ray is the purest shooter in the league and an established 3-ball champion. But it seems questionable that the Sonics would rather rebuild around Rashard Lewis than Allen. To me it would rather be real Lewis or deal both. However, I think it would take more than Maggette, Rebraca, and a draft picks to equal Allen. Thank goodness the Sonics don't need a point guard. But I'm sure they'd inquire about Mobley or Ross.

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I'd love Ray Allen on this team. I could handle giving up either Mobley or Maggette for Allen...but Mobley AND Maggette for Allen...I dont think so!!! Maybe a three-way trade could be worked out...who knows.

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Just wondering what publication spectulated that Ray Allen might be available? As far as Allen wanting to come to Los Angeles, I think that was all media speculation. He had the chance to come here when he was a free agent and the Clippers offered all they could. However, he resigned with the Sonics, citing that the Clippers track record worked against them. So instead of getting Ray Allen or Michael Redd that year, we had to settle for Cuttino Mobley. I don't think that one year of making the playoffs would get Allen thinking a different way.

There's not going to be too many big name free agents that are going to be jumping at the chance to come to the Clippers until they prove that they are winners. Guys like Allen, Redd, Gilbert Arenas, and Kobe Bryant all were offered max deals with the Clippers the last few years and all of them decided to sign elsewhere. That's why this year is so vital. If the Clippers regress and don't make the playoffs, they are going to be the same old Clippers. Making it to the second round last year means nothing unless you can back it up with another successful year.

As far as Maggette being a great player...he needs to make an all-star team first. He's a good role player right now and I like him. A recent article had an interesting quote about Corey and highlights his main problem as a Clipper.

Maggette will not be a great player until he correct this. He will be known primarily as a good offensive weapon. He has the ability so it's just effort. Until he's willing to change the way that people see him, he will always be on the trading block in Los Angeles.

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Yeah I liked Cuttino in college, I still like him today, but yeah we did kinda have to settle for him. But like you are saying, Benoit, we do have to earn our respect. Big name free agents wanna sign with teams with a chance to win it all. The Clips dont exactly create that kind of buzz, even after last year's success. Its not the end of the world if we dont, but the Clippers kinda need to make the playoffs this year (Phoenix, Dallas, Utah, LA Lakers, San Antonio and Denver will probably make the top 6, so we still have a great shot at making it, if we continue to win the easy games and win a good portion of the harder games). I believe they've built a pretty damn good team here, but in the future, or even in the near future, it would help to be an attractive franchise for top notch free agents to sign with. You bring up a good point, Benoit. Nothing to fret about, but definitely an area which can be improved if we make the playoffs this year and continue moving forward next year. This year may be just a speed bump and a "heat" check for this team, but there's still many opportunites to get the most out of this season with our current team and to start getting prepared to be an elite team year-in, year-out.

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Dang man imagine if we have Gilbert right now we be smokin remember he almost signed wit us but he thought friggin Whizzards wanted him more.

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The Sonics have already lost this season (13-21)...They have no inside quality players (none) and you can't win only with Ray and Rashard without any help from the inside.We haven't played as good as last year but our "touch" is coming and let's see if we can have the same level than last year...We are a playoff team.No doubt.And if we could get Allen we would be a title contender although we would must give Corey+other player.There's no present and no future right now in the Sonics and everybody knows it so Allen does.He's becoming veteran so he must move to at least have an opportunity to fight for something...

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YO Benoit, it was Hoopsworld that had the Ray Allen speculation as one of the flashing pictorial headlines at the top of their page. It might still be there as they only change those headlines about once a week. The clips did make a run and an offer to Gilbert Arenas when was a free agent a couple of years ago and at one point some folks thought he would actually sign here. It didn't happen. Too Bad. Imagine what our lineup would be like with him onboard. For those that thought that the Clippers....

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Hoopsworld also floated a rumor that the Nets had interest in trading Vince Carter to the Clippers for Maggette and other assets, or Cat and assets, or Maggette and Cat. They apparently didn't move forward because they didn't see either player as an upgrade. They are not looking to rebuild they are looking to add a key player so they can make a run. This could all be just recycled media specualtion coming out of New Jersey. There is just a little smoke here and no fire that I can find.

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Yeah, I heard of that trade rumor on the radio today. Almost anyone that was a sincere Clipper fan was against it and I am too. Getting Carter would bring some much needed buzz to the Clipper Nation. But besides crazy windmill dunks Carter doesn't have much else. His shot selection and defense is far worse than Maggette and he's been known to choke in the clutch. So if the the Clippers want to sell tickets Carter will give them that - otherwise don't bother.

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I read about the Vince Carter trade also, I don't see it happening at all. It might have been brought up or thought about, but the reason it's out there is just to create a buzz, sell some newspapers, get some tv ratings. But what that article did bring up is the idea of Cat on the block, and other then possible Iverson deals, I haven't heard anything about Cat. I wouldn't mind seeing him go, I just think he's way too inconsistent, and the only reason we got him, like someone else mentioned, was because no one else was left. It would be good if we can package him with CMagg, but I doubt thats happening. So far the only thing I can see happening is the acquisition of Mike Miller, I think that trade is on the table, and the Clippers are just waiting to see if they can get anything better. I wouldn't be surprised if Maggette goes to Miami, for possibly James Posey and Jason Kapono, which might work out to be a good deal. I don't know if anyone has noticed Kapono's shooting lately, but he's a threat out there. The only thing I'm worried about is once Corey is traded, how Dunleavy going to find to time to play the new guy(s) and that might again cause another trade demand from one of the players.

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I'm not up to date on James Posey's game. But I think the scouting report on Kapono is that he has a great outside shot, which the Clippers are definitely looking for, but also a defensive liability. Anyone out there that knows that his is wrong, please let us know. Dumleavy could find minutes for players, he just won't. He stays mostly in his tight rotation. The other night we were up by 27 to begin the 4th. Our starters were tiring and started to lose focus. He left them in and our lead shrunk way down to single digits. He brought Singleton in with 52 secs to go. Geeez!

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James Posey right now is ****...He's often injured and he's at the end of his career.Jason Kapono is a good shooter with no defense and can't create himself his own shots...Furthermore he's doing good numbers right now because there are no quality players players available with the injuries...I would refuse this offer...For me the best trade would be Ray Allen (unprobably) and then Mike Miller...I think that Vince Carter deserves more respect.He is in a bad streak but he has showed he's a great player despite his lack of defense

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Rumors resurfaced today in a San Antonio newspaper that mentioned Barry, Udirth, and now Matt Bonner as possible trade bait for Corey. That report also said that the Clippers are still talking with 3 different teams on trade scenarios. Some trades are for Cat Mobley and not Corey. I don't know what GM's are thinking, but I think that Corey is a better player than Cat any day of the week. Cat is to inconsistant for me. So if we can get what we want trading Cat and keep Corey, I'm all for that.

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Anyone know how Wilkins is doing for the Sonics this year? He's a SF if I'm not mistaken. Could we get Wilkins and Allen for Cat and Corey? I dunno, just throwing things out there.

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Wilkins is a good player despite he doesn't play big minutes because of Rashard Lewis who plays in the same position...I doubt the Sonics would accept this trade but...

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The Charlotte Bobcats called to inquire about Corey Maggette but so far the two teams could not find a good match. Also, Toronto called and reportedly offered a first round pick they own for Maggette but the Clippers responded by saying that they also wanted a small forward. They are probably requesting a good outside shooting first string small forward along with the pick, and that was probably to much for Toronto. If the Clips would except a second tier small forward and a pick, discussions might have moved forward on some level.

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Toronto wants to give up Morris Peterson...but we dont need a draft pick, and Peterson for Maggette is not a fair trade for us by far. Plus Toronto may get into the playoffs (last time i checked they led their weak division), and we dont want a draft pick if it isnt gonna be a lottery pick.

I wonder what the Bobcats would be offering us. Gerald Wallace ??? I hope so!! That guy plays his heart out and is very good. Or Adam Morrison, but I doubt they would trade either for Maggette. We can hope, lol.

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Their first round pick + either Gerald Wallace or Adam Morrison might be worth it. Gerald Wallace is a terrific player- hustles and runs the floor although he doesn't shoot the 3 that well, + he tends to get injured. Adam Morrison can become a great shooter but he's pretty inconsistent- understandable since he's a rookie.

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theres no way adam morrison is goin to be traded, the bobcats love the kid and he has potential to be a superstar. gerrald wallace and a pick would be a lot more fair, but hes not really going to change anything; and the way we've been drafting, i wouldnt want a pick. im still hoping for the mike miller trade to go down, the kids got skills and he can shoot! thats the most important thing. i heard a possible korver trade goin down too, and i would love to see that happen as well. i just hope that we can move cat instead of maggette. but i dont think maggettes goin to all of sudden decide to stay, minutes is not the only thing bothering him, its dunleavy. so we should try to move both maggette and cat if we can, cats too inconsistent and getting old.

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Now that the Owner has proclaimed that he wants Corey to stay you would think that trade rumors would subside. But at the tail end of that report came the inevitable, "well unless we could get a superstar for him." There were more trade scenario rumors out there today than I have ever seen. And we are going to see a lot of this right up to the deadline. But we already knew the owners feelings, and we already knew the Clippers were not going to trade Corey for chump change or chumps. Otherwise he would already be gone. Corey is a valuable player, a professional, and is not a malcontent. There are other ways for us to bring in a shooter, and I think the team will ultimately go another direction using draft picks and second tier players to get an outside gunslinger. I could even see Corey getting a contract extension if he demonstrates that he can stay healthy. We need to either extend his contract and keep him, or trade him. Otherwise he becomes a free agent after next season and he walks. And we get nothing for him.

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I agree JamFan...coming soon we need to decide if we want to trade a "bargain contract" or bone up and find a way to keep this guy. Corey's been talking about "business is business" when discussing the trade rumors. What if we extend him for some good money...does the "business" become staying here and having to reconcile and deal with Dunleavy??

You're all right....if we dont do something DECISIVE before next season, we will either get nothing for him or nothing out of him. I really hope he stays.

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