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While Chris Paul's first choice may be the Knicks, sources say he is also open to being traded to the Magic and Clippers.

Paul can opt out of his contract after the coming season to become a free agent and the Hornets are considering trading him to help in their rebuilding process.

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The source cites a realGM columnist, who I suspect is just reiterating the Chris Broussard rumor. I don't think there's been a new development.

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He didn't mention Magic before.. so I think it's new. At least I hope it is.

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yeah it's a new rumor. what package would the magic give? only thing would be CP3 fro dwight howard, and without dwight there, he wouldn't want to go there. So clippers it is!

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I don't know. Until the RealGM columnist specifies from where he heard this, I think he's just speculating on what's already speculation.

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I think we can offer more than any team. It just depends how far we want to go with a package. DJ? EJ?

If CP3 ended up in Orlando somehow I'd expect Deron to leave Brooklyn in the off season. I think the Nets are basically putting all their cards in Howard joining Williams in the 2012 summer. We could very well end up with Williams for free in 2012 if CP3 were to join Dwight in Orlando.

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we have 2 picks in next year's draft( very strong draft) , one of which is probably going top 5. we have DJ, aminu, and bledsoe. they basically get 5 young players, one of which could be a superstar ( the draft pick).

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I say Mo Williams instead of Kaman. So we can still use Kaman's expiring to get Iggy or Prince. Trade Gordon+Minny pick+Aminu+fillers for CP3/Ariza.

Starting lineup of 2011-2012 season

CP3

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Iggy/Prince

Griffin

DJ

Rest of the league destroyed.

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We most likely end up with 1 pick in the 2012 pick. The pick we traded in the Bledsoe deal is top 10 protected and we'd better damn we be better than that. I'll be pretty pissed off if the Celtics don't get that pick.

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Stop trying to trade Eric Gordon, he is part of our core. Kaman, Bledsoe and Minny Pick would greatly help NO, they won't get a better offer. Then we have Foye and Mo as back-up guards. We sin Prince or Butler at SF. Then we just need a solid back up center

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RLB I think DJ is more vital than Gordon with Paul. Paul is a ball dominant player who likes to run the show. Running pick and roll with DJ+Griffin would be unstoppable. DJ would turn into a star immediately and Griffin would be the next Barkley. Not to mention CP3 can easily score 20 a game. We don't need 3 20 ppg scorers.. especially when Eric Gordon became much more ball dominant last year.

I honestly think Paul+DJ+Griffin is more chemistry and potential than Gordon+CP3+Griffin. We can count on DJ to stay healthy and SG's are much easier to replace than blossoming defensive anchors.

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^ we can get away with this trade while still keeping EJ, why trade him away? trade bled, DJ, and our 2 draft picks for cp3. if they really wanna give us okafor, then we throw Mo Williams in there and take back okafor too. This way, our starting line-up would be CP3, EJ, Aminu, Blake, Kaman. Okafor comes off the bench. Now we'll have some options here. Since Kaman will be an expiring, trade him for iggy, and if they don't accept, add Aminu in there.

we end up with: CP3, EJ, Iggy, Blake, Okafor.

basically, it comes down to, do you want to keep EJ more, or DJ? I personally take EJ over DJ any day

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EJ is no question the better player but considering DJ thrives in Pick and Roll and CP3 will likely make him a star.. it's something to think about. Plus DJ isn't injury prone.

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Any trade that involves DJ has to be approved by DJ. I think it's possible that he'd agree to go to Orlando, but I'm not sure why he'd agree to go to New Orleans. Lets not forget that his hometown team the Rockets have cap space and are in need of a center.

I'm also worried about Gordon signing an extension. We all know he loves his mid-west roots and supposedly isn't to fond of LA. I'd give him until the 2012 summer to sign an extension and trade him if he won't extend.

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We need the outside scoring threat, otherwise, Paul could only feed it to Griffin and the offense would be too predictable.

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If we get CP3, I have a feeling that Gordon will be gone when his contract is up. Right now, he's getting more touches, but it's gonna be the CP3/Griffin show and Gordon will likely look for a team that will showcase his talents. So that said, I wouldn't even think twice about moving Gordon if we're gonna get a stud like CP3 or Howard.

I really like Eric Bledsoe and think has more upside than Gordon...granted they play different positions. Once he learns how to get himself under control, he's got extremely gifted athleticism that could transform him into an elite PG in the league.

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Hooch that's what I'm factoring in. EJ's desire to go back east it seems. I know DJ loves Houston too but I honestly feel DJ is happier in LA than Eric Gordon who spends his entire summers in Indiana. It's true that DJ would have to sign off on this.

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I have a question. From what I am hearing from all of you, we have 2 top 10 picks next year. One of the picks can be 1-5, in a very strong draft. Why on earth would you guys want to trade 4 players, 2 of them top 10 for 1 player, like CP3, or Howard. Yes, I understand that CP3 is a supertar, etc. I read all of your coments. But out of those 2 top 10 picks in such a strong draft, we can end up with at least 1 Blake Griffin start type of player, and maybe a perenial all star too. So 1 superstar + 1 all star > CP3 or D Howard, for much cheaper. Of course, there's no guarantees on these drafts. There's also no guarantees that after signing a big contract, CP3's knee acts up after so many years of playing in the NBA.

We still have other players to trade to fill the SF position. Just let these kids play it out and see what happens. Before last season started, the same squad was crap. Then all of a sudden we saw a vastly improved Gordon. We saw a vastly improved DJ. Bledsoe was decent, not exactly a dud. 1 more year and these young guys + Kaman can have better trade values for a CP3, without giving up those 2 very high draft picks.

You still need players for a bench squad to relieve the starters. Imagine a bench of 21 year old superstars and stars. The bench will be scary and completely unpredictable to the opponents. Just when the opponent is getting tired in the third quarter, these guys come in and run them out of the building. Then the starter simply have to keep their composure and that's it, we win every game.

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I have a question. From what I am hearing from all of you, we have 2 top 10 picks next year. One of the picks can be 1-5, in a very strong draft. Why on earth would you guys want to trade 4 players, 2 of them top 10 for 1 player, like CP3, or Howard. Yes, I understand that CP3 is a supertar, etc. I read all of your coments. But out of those 2 top 10 picks in such a strong draft, we can end up with at least 1 Blake Griffin start type of player, and maybe a perenial all star too. So 1 superstar + 1 all star > CP3 or D Howard, for much cheaper. Of course, there's no guarantees on these drafts. There's also no guarantees that after signing a big contract, CP3's knee acts up after so many years of playing in the NBA.

We still have other players to trade to fill the SF position. Just let these kids play it out and see what happens. Before last season started, the same squad was crap. Then all of a sudden we saw a vastly improved Gordon. We saw a vastly improved DJ. Bledsoe was decent, not exactly a dud. 1 more year and these young guys + Kaman can have better trade values for a CP3, without giving up those 2 very high draft picks.

You still need players for a bench squad to relieve the starters. Imagine a bench of 21 year old superstars and stars. The bench will be scary and completely unpredictable to the opponents. Just when the opponent is getting tired in the third quarter, these guys come in and run them out of the building. Then the starter simply have to keep their composure and that's it, we win every game.

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I have a question. From what I am hearing from all of you, we have 2 top 10 picks next year. One of the picks can be 1-5, in a very strong draft. Why on earth would you guys want to trade 4 players, 2 of them top 10 for 1 player, like CP3, or Howard. Yes, I understand that CP3 is a supertar, etc. I read all of your coments. But out of those 2 top 10 picks in such a strong draft, we can end up with at least 1 Blake Griffin start type of player, and maybe a perenial all star too. So 1 superstar + 1 all star > CP3 or D Howard, for much cheaper. Of course, there's no guarantees on these drafts. There's also no guarantees that after signing a big contract, CP3's knee acts up after so many years of playing in the NBA.

We still have other players to trade to fill the SF position. Just let these kids play it out and see what happens. Before last season started, the same squad was crap. Then all of a sudden we saw a vastly improved Gordon. We saw a vastly improved DJ. Bledsoe was decent, not exactly a dud. 1 more year and these young guys + Kaman can have better trade values for a CP3, without giving up those 2 very high draft picks.

You still need players for a bench squad to relieve the starters. Imagine a bench of 21 year old superstars and stars. The bench will be scary and completely unpredictable to the opponents. Just when the opponent is getting tired in the third quarter, these guys come in and run them out of the building. Then the starter simply have to keep their composure and that's it, we win every game.

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we don't have 2 top 10 picks. we have minnesotas pick (wherever they may land) and if we finish in the top 20 teams (which we better) then our pick goes to boston via OKC.

Think of it like the Boston Garnett trade. They gave up a really good young player (Big Al) along with a few other young prospects (Telfair, Gomes) and 2 draft picks. Do you think Boston regrets that trade now?

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Ok, so 1 top 10 pick, player 1-5 on a very strong draft. So there's a Very good chance to get another Blake Griffin or CP3 type player. Yes, other teams will demand the pick for a CP3. But CP3 is available as a free agent next year, and he said he will be ok with the clippers. So why give NO another pick? We have an edge at the bargaining table.

We have to learn how to make the playoffs and win the playoffs before we can try to win a championship. With a much better SF, I am very sure that we will make the playoffs already. Then when summer comes, we've got all the chips to get another superstar.

The young players like Bledsoe and Aminu will have 2 years of NBA experience + playoff experience. Their trade values will be much better than right now. Kaman most likely will have better trade values too since he's up for a new contract (can't stand Kaman, but at least he's not exactly a dud when he's healthy).

So what I am saying is that the team's trading assets will vastly improve this summer without blowing up the whole team to simply get 1 superstar right now. Those 3 superstars are not available now, but are available at the trading deadline or this coming summer anyways.

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Ok, so 1 top 10 pick, player 1-5 on a very strong draft. So there's a Very good chance to get another Blake Griffin or CP3 type player. Yes, other teams will demand the pick for a CP3. But CP3 is available as a free agent next year, and he said he will be ok with the clippers. So why give NO another pick? We have an edge at the bargaining table.

We have to learn how to make the playoffs and win the playoffs before we can try to win a championship. With a much better SF, I am very sure that we will make the playoffs already. Then when summer comes, we've got all the chips to get another superstar.

The young players like Bledsoe and Aminu will have 2 years of NBA experience + playoff experience. Their trade values will be much better than right now. Kaman most likely will have better trade values too since he's up for a new contract (can't stand Kaman, but at least he's not exactly a dud when he's healthy).

So what I am saying is that the team's trading assets will vastly improve this summer without blowing up the whole team to simply get 1 superstar right now. Those 3 superstars are not available now, but are available at the trading deadline or this coming summer anyways.

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Ok, so 1 top 10 pick, player 1-5 on a very strong draft. So there's a Very good chance to get another Blake Griffin or CP3 type player. Yes, other teams will demand the pick for a CP3. But CP3 is available as a free agent next year, and he said he will be ok with the clippers. So why give NO another pick? We have an edge at the bargaining table.

We have to learn how to make the playoffs and win the playoffs before we can try to win a championship. With a much better SF, I am very sure that we will make the playoffs already. Then when summer comes, we've got all the chips to get another superstar.

The young players like Bledsoe and Aminu will have 2 years of NBA experience + playoff experience. Their trade values will be much better than right now. Kaman most likely will have better trade values too since he's up for a new contract (can't stand Kaman, but at least he's not exactly a dud when he's healthy).

So what I am saying is that the team's trading assets will vastly improve this summer without blowing up the whole team to simply get 1 superstar right now. Those 3 superstars are not available now, but are available at the trading deadline or this coming summer anyways.

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I agree with you that we have the edge at the bargaining table and we shouldn't give up too much but you're wrong when you say that just because we have a top 1 - 5 pick in a strong draft means we will get another player like BLAKE GRIFFIN or CP3. They are superstars and future HALL OF FAMERS. If Blake leaves, we're toast. We can't waste a year. After this year, if we can't sign a superstar in the summer and Blake feels like we didn't do enough, and he leaves? Clips are losers again for a long time. If we get Chris Paul, we can go deep into the playoffs THIS YEAR and change Clipper history forever.

That being said, Keep Gordon and Jordan.

If we can trade our future draft picks and keep Gordon and Jordan, MAKE THAT TRADE NOW. Two future first rounders, Bledsoe, Aminu, Gomes, for CP3. I would do that in a HEARTBEAT.

Chris Paul - Best pur point guard in the NBA. Future Hall of Famer.

Eric Gordon - Future All Star

Caron Butler or Tayshaun Prince

Blake Griffin - Potential future Hall of Famer

Deandre Jordan - Future All Star

Trade Kaman for another strong SF

Mo Williams - solid backup for PG

Randy Foye - solid backup for SG

Craig Smith - solid backup for PF/C

Ike Diogu - solid backup for PF/C

Brian Cook - Weird 7 footer w/ no game except shooting 3s.

Travis Leslie - Athletic

Trey Thomkins - don't know

Willie Warren - needs to step up

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You give up that pick for a superstar in every scenario...

You would rather hold onto the pick and hope he becomes a superstar or actually get a proven superstar with the pick...

Not to mention The Timberwolves being bottom dwellers isn't a for sure thing... Still a season to be played to decide that...

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ur trade except +Mo + Foye + Kaman 4 <Omeka> (to entice the hornets bc of Kaman's 1yr contract vs Omeka's 3yr)

-bledsoe -both first rounders(you kidding?) -gomes(I would really like it to be minus aminu instead, but just don't think the hornets would go for that)

obviously you would have to really sell em on Mo and Kaman...

I think you have to keep bledsoe; under cp3's guidance, he has the athelticism and skill/talent to be the next best/elite pg right next to Rose. That keeps the Clippers solid at PG for a long time to come barring no injuries.

I also think omeka's contract wouldn't be that tough to absorb, he's a pretty solid body to have on a team and maybe they could amnesty him, if not there's always gomes....

so..

cp3, EB, leslie/warren

EG, leslie/warren/carron?, 2012 2nd rndr like William Bufford, Doron Lamb, Orlando Johnson, or Will Barton

carron/prince, gomes/2012 1st rndr either Harrison Barnes, Terrence Jones, or Michael Kid Gil-Christ

BG, Rhino/Diogu/cook/thompkins (lose 1 i guess)

DJ/Omeka (they can battle it out for starter)

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This is just retarded. I've been reading these forums for the past few days and I can't take it anymore I had to create an ID and post.

First off, why trade Eric Gordon and Kaman away to bring in CP3 and Butler/Prince?

We all need to realize the facts,

1 - Hornets want Minnesota pick first and foremost.

2 - Bledsoe, Aminu are more than likely to be included in the deal.

3 - Emeka Okafors horrid contract is probably coming back to Clipper Land pending a trade to New Orleans

4 - If they can't get DeAndre Jordan, we can swing them Kaman in return for Okafor, they get a quality big man and an expiring contract, and we get a quality big man back, with a bad contract. This happens when dealing for good/great players.

5 - If Eric Gordon is included in the deal AND they want the Minny pick AND Bledsoe AND Aminu, we ask for Ariza and THEIR first rounder for next year. We'd be left with Mo Williams, CP3, DeAndre or Kaman and Griffin on our team.

Paul wants the Hornets to get something useable in a trade, giving them a young PG in Bledsoe, a potential top 5 pick in a loaded draft, a young SF with promise and either Kaman or DeAndre + fillers for a good C/cap relief works. He also goes to a team that has Gordon and Griffin on it, much more than what he currently has in New Orleans, thus giving him a good chance to keep making the playoffs and beyond, and giving his beloved Hornets a shot to have a good chance to rebuild.

We need to fire on all cylinders to either trade for Cp3 without tossing in Gordon, or call it quits and go full throttle for Butler, Vince Carter, Prince or AK47 to fill the SF hole we have.

The more we linger and let free agents like Butler drag us along in hopes we get to sign him when in all reality he just wants as much money as possible, and we let the Hornets string us along when they already probably have a trading partner, is really ridiculous.

Right now our team has a pretty good shot at making a 6-8 seed in the West given our current team ( and if we re-sign DeAndre ). Adding a CP3, Butler, Prince etc. would be nice and would surely help but the preseason is going to start soon and this whole CP3 thing is really pissing me off, just like Melo last year and the "DEcision" with Lebron James.

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Yea CP3 situation is definitely disruptive for team. I can agree with that.

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Spank_butt EXCELLENT POST

prokreation

I think you are over valuing our players. EJ is probably an allstar. Give him two years in a row and I'd say yes but not a sure thing EJ is like a second date. You probably will get lucky. CP3 is like walking into the room and seeing panites on the door knob. Actually a good analagy (sp?) Remember how much we thought of Corey?

To harp on DJ as usual. I'll make anybody on this board a bet. If in the next two years DJ is an allstar I will wear an "I Love Kobe" T shirt with a little heart for LOVE in public for a week. Who will take the bet?

The point again is to be objective. It's Darwin time.

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