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http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/7320941/chris-paul-new-orleans-horne ts-traded-season-sources-say There is rising sentiment within the New Orleans Hornets' organization to trade Chris Paul before the 2011-12 season even starts if he hasn't signed an extension with the team by then, according to sources close to the situation. Sources told ESPN.com that Paul and Hornets general manager Dell Demps did have their expected sitdown at the team's practice facility Monday and that the tone of the meeting was amicable. But Paul, sources said, did not tell the Hornets that he is prepared to sign an extension before the regular season opens Christmas Day, which only increases the likelihood that the Hornets....

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What I'm inferring is that the Clippers would give up Gordon if Paul extends with us.

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same. it makes me kind of uneasy even though i know how good paul is. between gordon and jordan, i would love to keep both. if we have to give up one for the trade to work, so be it. if we give up both i'd be pissed.

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Whether that means trading Gordon along with the Minny Pick we don't know.

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Yaroslavs#1Fan wrote:
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What I'm inferring is that the Clippers would give up Gordon if Paul extends with us.

Whether that means trading Gordon along with the Minny Pick we don't know.

I'd imagine so :/

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can someone tweet ramona or eric clarifying the whole situation with eric gordon being included in the deal or not? i dont want to give up gordon at all.

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CP3 not worth it if it means losing EJ.

I'd rather us wait and go after for Deron in '12 offseason.

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Gordon and filler for CP3, in a second. Gordon and Minn. Pick, get the hell outta here. Perfect scenario? Mo, Aminu, and the pick. We can eat the rest since we're under the cap.

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If Chris Paul agrees to sign extension on Clippers, then I would move Gordon in a heartbeat. and throw in the Minny 1st rounder too. I'm starting to think that Minny pick isn't as good as it's been advertised. The T-Wolves just got Rubio this year and Kevin Love will probably improve. If they make a move for a decent FA, they may not be a bad team next season.

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CP3 IS worth it....and it's 90% apparently that Williams stays with the Nets.

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You don't give up EJ period. Not a core player. Core players are Griffin, Gordon, and Jordan. We have plenty of assest and we are in the drivers seat If they can get a better deal than Kaman, Mo, Minny pick and 1 of our young guns let them.

You do not overpay for someone who wants out, and damaged goods. The whole nba media knows he wants out and we are in a position to strongarm and you guys want to fold. I am glad none of you are our GM.

Stern will make sure they get the 1st overall with either their pick or the minny pick. We do not have to help them rebuild overnite. And for the record, no one should listen to people who never gave gordon his props in the first place that say trade him.

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I would not give up EJ in a package for Paul- you lose the team's #2 scorer at 22 a game, and there will be a huge void at the shooting guard spot. We're talking about both on offense and defense. EJ most of the time was given the task to check the best guard on the opposing team. We're not going to win a shootout with the elite teams- you need great defenders to beat them.

They can have Kaman plus our first round picks + Bledsoe, but I would not offer more than that. That's already a very generous package.

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I agree with you David. EJ is our best perimeter defender.

At this point, I'd be surprised if we get CP3. Extension is highly unlikely and we're better off just signing or trading Kaman for a legit SF.

I'm starting to think the Minny pick would be a better piece for the future than CP3. We can easily get a stud PG or SF and it won't cost much for the first 3 years.

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^^Totally- I would definitely rather us not be short-sighted. You want to build a team that is going to be a force for the next 4-5 years, and we're already making good progress. Let's make a nice run to hopefully get into the playoffs, and then further evaluate for next season with that very valuable Minny pick.

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i agree with the 2nd part. mo, aminu, and pick.

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Agreed. As long as EJ signs his extension NOW!

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You don't give up EJ period. Not a core player. Core players are Griffin, Gordon, and Jordan. We have plenty of assest and we are in the drivers seat If they can get a better deal than Kaman, Mo, Minny pick and 1 of our young guns let them. You do not overpay for someone who wants out, and damaged goods. The whole nba media knows he wants out and we are in a position to strongarm and you guys want to fold. I am glad none of you are our GM. Stern will make sure....

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I'd rather keep EJ and give away our Minny pick but if push came to shove I would definitely give up EJ to lock in CP3. He will be the perfect compliment to Blake Griffin and will get the most out of Deandre Jordan. We can then use our Minny pick to fill in the SG void. I love EJ but I dont think he will ever be an MVP caliber player, so it wouldnt be smart to pass up on one like CP3. And we can't count on Deron Williams ...who knows what his situation or intent will be next year.

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Mo, Kaman, Aminu, Bledsoe, minny pick for cp3 and filler. IF they say no and they want DJ, then we do Mo, DJ, e bled, our pick, and like a 2015 pick for paul.

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Get ready we play the bulls at home jan 6th and the heat jan 11th. Early test

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if they're not satisfied with that first proposal and want DJ, i say "BEAT IT GEEK".

cant forget we're the one's with the negotiating power.

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ekker3 wrote:
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Mo, Kaman, Aminu, Bledsoe, minny pick for cp3 and filler. IF they say no and they want DJ, then we do Mo, DJ, e bled, our pick, and like a 2015 pick for paul.

if they're not satisfied with that first proposal and want DJ, i say "BEAT IT GEEK".

cant forget we're the one's with the negotiating power.

that's true, but it's chris paul. might as well try and make a 2nd offer lol. if we offer up DJ, we keep kaman and our minny pick

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You don't give up EJ period. Not a core player. Core players are Griffin, Gordon, and Jordan. We have plenty of assest and we are in the drivers seat If they can get a better deal than Kaman, Mo, Minny pick and 1 of our young guns let them. You do not overpay for someone who wants out, and damaged goods. The whole nba media knows he wants out and we are in a position to strongarm and you guys want to fold. I am glad none of you are our GM. Stern will make sure....

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Are you seriously comparing Brooks to CP3?

Are you seriously comparing the team Brooks had to what CP3 had?

Alriiiiiiiight.

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So i recently found out that when i post something, later on they take my credit and give credit to someone else what is this ?!

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clipper*joe wrote:
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aaron brooke also tore up the lakers in the playoff. a quick point guard tearing up the lakers isnt anything new

Are you seriously comparing Brooks to CP3?

Are you seriously comparing the team Brooks had to what CP3 had?

Alriiiiiiiight.

are you seriously validating cp3 being back cuz he tore up the lakers. really

really

give me any point guard with speed and he'll tear up the lakers

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clipperstown wrote:
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Mo, Kaman, Aminu, Bledsoe, minny pick for cp3 and filler. IF they say no and they want DJ, then we do Mo, DJ, e bled, our pick, and like a 2015 pick for paul.

if they're not satisfied with that first proposal and want DJ, i say "BEAT IT GEEK".

cant forget we're the one's with the negotiating power.

that's true, but it's chris paul. might as well try and make a 2nd offer lol. if we offer up DJ, we keep kaman and our minny pick

dont get me wrong, id give up DJ in a package for CP3. but if they plan on getting us in a headlock and taking most every piece of ours because they think they're able to, they're incredibly wrong.

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I think we need to ease up on trading EJ, DJ, and Minny pick for CP3. We're trading 3 starters for one player. He might be the best PG but does this really make the team better?

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Short answer...f#$k yeah. He's a top 5 player.

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tense2 wrote:
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I think we need to ease up on trading EJ, DJ, and Minny pick for CP3. We're trading 3 starters for one player. He might be the best PG but does this really make the team better?

Short answer...f#$k yeah. He's a top 5 player.

Thats too much. Ej or Minny pick, not both.

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I think we need to ease up on trading EJ, DJ, and Minny pick for CP3. We're trading 3 starters for one player. He might be the best PG but does this really make the team better?

Short answer...f#$k yeah. He's a top 5 player.

Thats too much. Ej or Minny pick, not both.

I agree...EJ + whatever or Minny pick+ whatever....and he signs an extension.

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You know how bad the defense would be without EJ and DJ? I love Blake like everyone else but he's not a good defender. DJ clogs up the middle and will block a ton of shots. EJ is our best perimeter player and he guards elite PGs and SGs. He gave Kobe fits and he did a decent job on Deron too.

I would do Minny pick/kaman/aminu/mo. NO can flip Kaman and Mo for draft picks and they can be loaded with young and cheap players. That's exactly what they need.

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I think we need to ease up on trading EJ, DJ, and Minny pick for CP3. We're trading 3 starters for one player. He might be the best PG but does this really make the team better?
Short answer...f#$k yeah. He's a top 5 player. many say that EJ might be the best SG behind wade once kobe starts regressing/retires. some say that might happen this upcoming year. so you're trading that, minny's pick (which could also potentially become a franchise player - always trade the pick with the intentions of what it could be come), and DJ (who could become one of....

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CP3 is elite defender also. If they wanted Bledsole instead of MO, that's a deal too.

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yes yes yes! repped! +1

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tense2 wrote:
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You know how bad the defense would be without EJ and DJ? I love Blake like everyone else but he's not a good defender. DJ clogs up the middle and will block a ton of shots. EJ is our best perimeter player and he guards elite PGs and SGs. He gave Kobe fits and he did a decent job on Deron too.

I would do Minny pick/kaman/aminu/mo. NO can flip Kaman and Mo for draft picks and they can be loaded with young and cheap players. That's exactly what they need.

CP3 is elite defender also. If they wanted Bledsole instead of MO, that's a deal too.

i beg to differ, he's good not great.

http://espn.go.com/blog/truehoop/post/_ ... ys-defense

for whatever reason he has that on/off switch.

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I think we need to ease up on trading EJ, DJ, and Minny pick for CP3. We're trading 3 starters for one player. He might be the best PG but does this really make the team better?
Short answer...f#$k yeah. He's a top 5 player. many say that EJ might be the best SG behind wade once kobe starts regressing/retires. some say that might happen this upcoming year. so you're trading that, minny's pick (which could also potentially become a franchise player - always trade the pick with the intentions of what it could be come), and DJ (who could become one of....

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many say that EJ might be the best SG behind wade once kobe starts regressing/retires. some say that might happen this upcoming year. so you're trading that, minny's pick (which could also potentially become a franchise player - always trade the pick with the intentions of what it could be come), and DJ (who could become one of the top centers in the league once he gets that post move), for a top 3 point guard with a history of uneasy knees? its toooo much. check out the notorious hershel walker trade. the biggest robbery in sports history. it didnt seem so....

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I agree with you guys EJ must be untouchable...As you said we would have a huge void in the SG position.

Definetely names like Mo Williams and Kaman should come up in this trade. I think Kaman is an overall better player than DJ but he's so prone injury and DJ has a special chemistry with BG so I would give Kaman instead of DJ. I really like Mo Williams because he helps us to spread the floor with his 3p shooting and he doesn't need having the ball on his hands to be effective but it wouldn't make sense having 2 top PGs.

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many say that EJ might be the best SG behind wade once kobe starts regressing/retires. some say that might happen this upcoming year. so you're trading that, minny's pick (which could also potentially become a franchise player - always trade the pick with the intentions of what it could be come), and DJ (who could become one of the top centers in the league once he gets that post move), for a top 3 point guard with a history of uneasy knees? its toooo much. check out the notorious hershel walker trade. the biggest robbery in sports history. it didnt seem so....

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I think the team needs a SF more than a PG. Mo and Bledsoe are fine. We lack a good wing that can spread the floor and play D.

What if we trade for Rudy Gay. Let's say the Minny pick. Memphis probably takes it so they can resign Gasol.

Then we trade Kaman and Gomes for Prince and a future pick or a player on their roster. I like Austin Daye but I doubt they'd give him up.

Anyways, we resign DJ and have the lineup below.

Mo/Bledsoe

EJ/Foye/Leslie

Gay/Prince/Aminu

Blake/Cook/Smith

DJ/free agent C

This team would easily make the playoffs!

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The problem is...is he's not just A pg. It's a top 5 player who happens to play pg..the quarterback on your team. He'll have much more of an impact than some mediocre/good sf. Apples and oranges.

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Mo and Bledsoe are fine? Foye is the better play maker than any of them.

We don't have a PG, we have a shoot-first guard, a sophomore who likes to turn it over a lot. Aside from the SF spot, we need a play-maker.

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if that's the case, would prefer not to repeat history, ala Kobe or Gilbert, and instead take care of our own bizness, sign EJ & DJ, draft BPA with the Minny pick, and take our chances....

Olshey drafted Bledsoe and Aminu, traded away our 2011 pick to rid the Clipp ship of Baron, and was reportedly after Iggy, a huge injury risk, as is Paul....

would prefer to hold off and see how VDN does after another year, see how Olshey's "work" unfolds with another year, and wait and see if perhaps we need to hire a top shelf coach for Blake.... that is my biggest concern.

my biggest fear is that Olshey might revert to Dunleavy form and think that his job might be in the balance, and decide that he needs to do something now, like sign a superstar susceptible to the injury bug.

thinkin' we have pretty good core, especially if Gordon and Kaman can keep healthy.... could less possibly be more.... ??

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I agree with you guys EJ must be untouchable...As you said we would have a huge void in the SG position. Definetely names like Mo Williams and Kaman should come up in this trade. I think Kaman is an overall better player than DJ but he's so prone injury and DJ has a special chemistry with BG so I would give Kaman instead of DJ. I really like Mo Williams because he helps us to spread the floor with his 3p shooting and he doesn't need having the ball on his hands to be effective but it wouldn't make sense having....

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you cant give up on gordon, the only way you include him in a trade is if he flat out says "i want to leave la and play in the east, and thus wont sign an extension" thats the only scenario. hes part of the core with griffin and DJ. mo, kaman and minny pick would make sense in a trade. i think if bledsoe slows down he can become a bobby jackson type of backup to paul if we acquire cp3.

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