Warriors plan to sign DJ to offer sheet

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illastrate
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10M per? Yikes. The Clips are pretty much forced to match it.

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Don't screw this up Olshey/DTS.

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stupid warriors. they dont even needa center. hope the clippers dont match it so theyre stuck with biedris and dj

ekker3
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Gsw raised our offer just enough to make us match it. Sleazy

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Doesn't really matter though. It matters to Sterling and only Sterling. We're going to be over the cap from here on how so who cares if we're over $2 million or $5 million.

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If we're going to pay 10 million a year, might as well get Nene. The guy can flat out ball.

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^^^ I agree. I like DJ and he did show some improvement last year, but $10 mil/per just seems like waaaay to much for him. Nene is a much better player than Jordan.

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we must keep him...10 mil is too much 4 him, but we need him if we want start to win with a real CORE

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Nene is going to the Nets.

I'm guessing at the deadline we'll see Lopez and Nene with a 1st swapped for Dwight.

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Nene will command 15M per, especially considering how much Chandler will get.

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nets about to sign nene. i say we keep DJ and keep this roster goin'. next thing we need to do is trade kaman for a backup center and another bench piece. (oh yeah, new to the site. always read what you guys have to say, thought i would join in on the fun.)

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screw gsw, they're completely just trying to screw us over. I gotta say though, Neil really is the one to blame bc he really shouldn't have shown his cards in how much we liked DJ and how they were willing to match anything. Teams can take advantage of that by now making us over pay.

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or keep kaman and pick up a big next draft.

or trade kaman now 4 who?

guess?

i really like greg monroe of the pistons, maybe kaman for monroe and austin daye...

lately we can amnesty gomes

ekker3
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15 million for a "center" who doesn't rebound?

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keeping DJ at $10mil/per wouldn't that give us a chance to pick another good player? would that keep us under the cap for a vet?

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This is what sucks about 2nd round picks that pan out (in DJ's case, he's getting ther). You don't get to keep them for a little longer.

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The butler signing pretty much already killed our cap flexibility.

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i think we have 5M left in cap room after caron

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unless we trade kaman!.. then it would work great!

clipsfansincebirth
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I saw on a warrior blog that is was for 42.0 mill for 4 years ..........trying to get back to the blog but its down right now.

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Talking future cap flexibility

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The main thing is the necessary funds to pay Blake and EJ. If overpaying for DJ means we can't offer the right amount for those 2 then peace out DJ.

Drummond might fall to us with the minny pick...

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We have the funds to offer EJ and BG even after re-signing DJ. If we amnesty Mo next year, we'll have a max slot for say a Deron Williams as well. And on top of that, still have the Minny 1st.

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Are you retarded, do you think the Pistons would trade Monroe straight up for Kaman let alone with Daye? Monroe is a stud, much younger, healthier and much much cheaper. If Clipper offered Kaman, Aminu for Monroe the Pistons would say hell no.

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I agree with clipperpanda. I think even though it is overpaying we have to do it for the chemistry of the team and the players perception of loyalty. But if the price means we can't pay blake or EJ then we can't do it.

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ekker3 wrote:
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i think we have 5M left in cap room after caron

Talking future cap flexibility

future? when for what? Mo's will be done in a couple I believe, Kaman's is done after this year plus there's the amnesty for gomes. Resign EJ. DJ, and BG, the rest are cheap future draft picks... EB should be cheap for a while to I presume

I also believe there is some rule about putting a franchise tag on a player (BG) making him not apply to the cap?

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get nene

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ekker3 wrote:
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If we're going to pay 10 million a year, might as well get Nene. The guy can flat out ball.

15 million for a "center" who doesn't rebound?

Agree with this. Nene is way overrated. Even DJ at 12m is better value than Nene at 15m.

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Until DJ has indicated he wants to get more money rather than stay here, I'm not going to panic. Do the Clippers HAVE to match it even if DJ isn't entertaining that offer?

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tzviness I'm not retarded...it was only a guess...ok

I know monroe is better than kaman.

The only thing to do is keep him until is gone.stop.

we alrady have a nice team with deep.

Maybe add rhino just in case and send leslie and warren to d-league.

thompkins maybe can help more then those 2.

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^^^ That's a good question, but I can't remember an example of that happening with an RFA. As far as can remember, its always a situation where the RFA's current team matches any other offer he gets, or he walks. I can't think of an example where an RFA just turned down a higher offer from another team to stay with his current team. Not saying it never happened, I just don't remember that happening.

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i don't believe he does, being restricted all that means is that the original team he was on, the clippers, can match anything he gets offered and he has no say in that. However, I think that everything else is the same as regular FAs in the sense that they can do what they want and take less to play where they want.

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Warriors would offer him 4 years/42.7M

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The team just paid Caron, 31 year old player coming off an injury, $8M a year. I have to think the team matches anything as long as it is not $12M or higher.

And once they do, say goodbye to Kaman!

afishLClipp
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marcus thorton just got 40M

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So Nene is 5 years older...injury prone, rebounds less with 5 more minutes of playing time, blocks one less shot a game, but scores 7 more points a game is better?

ekker3
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Well we're supposed to spend at least 80% of the cap - I think I might be a bit used to saving some space. Things have changed.

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plus the original team can offer a year longer.

LotsoHope
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Wait, it's basically the same amount of money over the contract term... guess it depends whether DJ wants to earn it in 4 years vs 5. From our team standpoint an extra $2M doesn't really hurt if we have an extra year of spending flexibility, shouldn't be a stretch for us to match GSW's offer.

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illastrate wrote:
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If we're going to pay 10 million a year, might as well get Nene. The guy can flat out ball.

Nene will command 15M per, especially considering how much Chandler will get.

15 million for nene is a better bargain than DJ for 10 million. If we're going to overspend, might as well get the better bang for the buck.

I know Nene is about sign with the Nets but my post wasn't meant to be serious, just throwing the statement out there.

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I disagree. DJ at $10M is way better than Nene at $15M. DJ is a lot younger and can be a trade asset down the line if he doesn't improve.

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Let DJ go. 10 mill a year for a guy who yes, gets what 8 boards and maybe 2 blocks a game and is a young Center sounds sorta OK or outrageous depending on who you are but lets look at this...

Tyson Chandler got big money for what reason? All NBA Defensive Team, world Champ, solid defensive Center or better, veteran player with higher IQ.

DJ can't hit free throws, he has little to no offensive game outside of dunks, he doesn't play very good defense and will NOT earn a single year of any of the contract years we'd have to offer him if we paid him STARTING 10 mill a year ( thats starting at 10 mill folks, so that means it'll probably go up each year after that I doubt Golden State is going to front load the contract like they do in Football ) meaning we'd have to pay him more than 10 mill each season after that for 2-4 more years.

Thanks but no thanks. I'd tell Kaman you better kick some a** this year because your starting and we want an All-Star performance down there, and just hope we pick high enough to draft a big in next years draft. I'm all for Andre Drummond if we manage to pick in a spot where its likely we will get him.

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DJ helps us win now and the FO will not risk losing Blake over a few million a year. Besides, it's DTS' money. He's never spent before so this signing might just open up his wallet.

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if DJ is smart, he will take the offer we have presented him now. if he wants to play the "match" game then, there's some probability he will end up on the warriors. our offer isn't a low-ball and it actually is the most optimal offer you can give to someone who is full of potential who hasn't realized it yet. plus, who wouldn't want to be on this up-and-coming team next to blake griffin? he will take it in order to help a team he says he really wants to stay on and build in order to help our cap flexibility. it's sad that the new CBA was supposed to combat issues of overpayment and the players were locked out for how many days so they can resolve this. nothing in the league is ever going to change except the fluctuation of the BRI. DJ, be a team player and don't get greedy. (although, it's easy for me to ask DJ to not be "greedy" since 2million is a LOT of money. just thinking about the team overall.)

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^^^^ but you only have 3 days to match it. at this point in time, i'd hope the fo matches it in a show of support to keep the core together. remember, you can still trade dj later down the road if you want, right?

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DJ is going to get a ton of money regardless of which team he goes to. He only made $500K last year. The question now is does he sign for the most money or does he stay with the team he's comfortable with and make $8-9M a year?

It might not be up to him. His agent will obviously advise him to sign the highest offer sheet out there.

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He gets 8 boards because he shares the floor with BG and minutes with Kaman.

Plays no defense... are you high? You just mentioned 2 blocks per game!

Yeah let's tell Kaman to kick some ass THIS year, with no backup and dodgy ankles, then when he leaves next year we can start paying $15 mil for someone like Nene.

How ARE things up there in Oakland, troll?

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The thread title is misleading. Golden State can't sign DJ to squat.

If Deandre was really committed, he wouldn't even bother signing it and would renegotiate with Olshey for a better offer.

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Statement is right on point

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