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Clippersfan86
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Sure we dominated so it wasn't important to discuss but Chauncey Billups got into a personal battle with Kobe and played like he was a first option. Chris Paul was looking for Blake all game. If you watch footage you'll see Billups was shooting those 3's early in the shotclock while Griffin had great position in the post.

Sure we may win a lot of games that way but we NEED to implement Griffin a lot more going forward. Billups needs to realize he is NOT a first or second option on this team. We may blow a few teams out with those 3 pointers.... but I'd much rather us establish a dominant inside/out game than become the Phoenix Suns.

I'm happy we killed it... but I'm hoping on tape the team realizes they NEED to make Griffin a much bigger part of the offense going forward, especially Billups.

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I think to some degree you're right, but it seemed to me that the lakers' defensive priority was to stop Blake. He was so much more of a factor than his line would indicate, simply because they were so scared of him. A few more games like that, and teams will leave him to make sure they're guarding the perimeter, freeing him up to beast the inside.

I know you're just tempering your excitement with pragmatism, but I wouldn't be too concerned. I stated on another thread that we have become a 'pick-your-poison' type of team.

edit: nonetheless, I would have liked to see him grab more boards.

SissyBoyFloyd
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Good catch! But I wouldn't worry about it since it was the first real game they ever played together. Each player will have to learn what coach wants as time goes by. I was thinking how nice it was to win so easily without Blake having to be relied on very much. I was in awe watching our center play. I had no idea.

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I'm not concerned. I think this was mainly because the Lakers were playing Blake tight so CP3 and Chauncey just took what the defense gave them. It's pick your poison- get hurt by Blake inside or get hit from the outside and layups from CP3/Chauncey. Blake had his chances but missed on his face-up moves. Length tends work well against his shots when he's not going hard towards the hoop. I was more troubled by Mo Williams' trigger happiness than anything else.

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I think the 25th will be Blake's night to shine. He seems rushed in his moves against the Lakers. I also think that there was an overall emphasis to the two guard setup last night and getting those guys accustomed to playing in VDN's system.

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Definitely has to do with the Lakers match up as well. Blake shot like 42 percent vs the Lakers last year and 3 of the games against them he played mediocre. I think Gasol/Bynum's length give him a lot of problems.

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Yea but we have to remember what we want from Mo. When he was in games the only decent player next to him was Foye who got a few shots. Mo is expected to be the next Jason Terry type for us... and Jason Terry is very aggressive on offense when he comes into games. I actually liked the way Mo played believe it or not.

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i disagree, the reason why blake didnt get much looks because they were crowding him. This is why Billups made 3s, and DJ got more lobs. They had 3 lakers crowding blake so it left everyone wide open. Also is just one preseason game too soon to tell our weakness

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i loved how the clips played. like some of you point out, it looked like the lakers wanted everyone but blake to score on them. thats why billups had a field day. i liked his shot selection. hes a much better shooter than cassell was when he got to the clips. also mo was good coming off a pick and popping his shots. he can become our jason terry. only thing id be concerned is that we need a big man asap. hubbard tried but was very small to try to stop bynum and gasol.

Clippersfan86
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I suppose we will see if Griffin gets more touches over the next month.

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This is Billups we're talking about, definition of a team player and leader. He knows his role on this team, if he was a volume shooter last night, he had good reason.

Matchups will dictate who gets the rock to shoot, some nights it'll be Griffin, some it'll be Paul, others it'll be Billups. We have a lot of options on offense, I'm not worried about this front at all.

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Stop.

alyn217
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" We may blow a few teams out with those 3 pointers.... but I'd much rather us establish a dominant inside/out game than become the Phoenix Suns. "

Last night was an inside/out game. It just started from the outside. The point of having an inside/out offense is that you have both options open. The defense has to respect both. Usually the game is established inside first, then when the double team shows up it gets kicked out. But it doesn't have to be that way. All you really need is the THREAT of inside game. That's what we saw last night. The Lakers played great D on Griffin by denying him the ball or forcing him to be a jump shooter. The trouble for the Lakers was that Billups (or del Negro) figured that out early on and just started raining down 3's while the defense was busy denying Griffin the ball. Take Griffin out of the equation and the defense can open up a little to guard the perimeter, but as long as Blake is there the defense has to choose--inside or outside. The Lakers chose inside so the Clips went outside. I think when we play smaller, faster teams, you'll see the exact opposite scheme--less treys and a whole lot more Blake/DJ.

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I agree that Mo should play that way. He is our Jason Terry and should be the first option with the second team. Best one word that should describe how he plays: Aggresssive.

I don't know how anyone could complain about Billups. Those were absolute daggers he was throwing up there. He murdered the lakers. Against the lakers, it will be less about Blake because Pau matches up so well against him. At least so far. The boy is still learning.

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I am fine with proven players shooting over 50% from the field to keep on shooting until they cool down. Last night just showed something we havent seen in a while, we have a lot more than one offensive weapon and I think its almost so strange that we feel its not right. The Thunder would be stoked if Harden scores more than Durant if it helps them win, or winning means Terry scores more than Nowitzki. Getting that W is #1 and last night Paul and Billups were the best options.

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Clippersfan86 wrote:
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I'm not concerned. I think this was mainly because the Lakers were playing Blake tight so CP3 and Chauncey just took what the defense gave them. It's pick your poison- get hurt by Blake inside or get hit from the outside and layups from CP3/Chauncey. Blake had his chances but missed on his face-up moves. Length tends work well against his shots when he's not going hard towards the hoop. I was more troubled by Mo Williams' trigger happiness than anything else.

Yea but we have to remember what we want from Mo. When he was in games the only decent player next to him was Foye who got a few shots. Mo is expected to be the next Jason Terry type for us... and Jason Terry is very aggressive on offense when he comes into games. I actually liked the way Mo played believe it or not.

I don't mind him shooting- not just so early in the clock and with a hand in his face. He needs to be more patient- the same or better shot will be available later in the shot clock. He's shooting like he needs to pad his numbers, and it's making him look bad. Foye on the other hand was much more disciplined and passed the ball off to others who were open. Kudos to him because he was shooting every chance he had and bricking badly early last season, but he's become a much better player because now he's shooting in the flow of the offense and creating for others as well.

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Totally. Though last night he certainly was not a volume shooter- 23 points on just 8 shot attempts- now that's production.

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The objective is not for any one player to get his, but for the team to play well. They did that... Last year we had two scoring options... Gordon and Griffin... Anyone else was a distant third. That's why we weren't successful... This year's team has four guys who can get you 20 on a given night... Expect the scoring to be more balanced this year...

Blake Griffin's scoring numbers will likely go down a bit... The win total, however, will go up. Griffin will be a better player this year, but it likely won't be reflected in his scoring average.

Wins and losses are the only stat that matters. Billups knows that... If teams back off him as the Lakers did last night, he'll score...If they play him straight, he'll make others better. He's all about winning.

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Good call. Nothing about 8 attempts screams volume shooter at all. Danny Granger and Rudy Gay would've had that many attempts midway through the 1st quarter.

Clippersfan86
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Fair enough. 8 attempts is definitely within the norm and what we expect from him. Not his fault Lakers were stupid enough to foul so much.

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Guys we won on pure talent last night

We need more Practice time before we

Can expect to see the type of team we are

And all lakers did was try to stop Blake even

The refs were lol

JamFan
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The offense went just the way coach planned it. The defense sagged a lot leaving outside shooters open. The only to make them honest is to hit open shots. On the other hand, the scouting report says Blake does not perform as well against tall defenders, so teams will put a 7 footer on him if possible. In the low post, with a 7' player behind him, he is not as good. The way to adjust is to step back and hit the jump shot. But he didn't have that shot last night. So we went with what was working. Nothing went wrong last night. It was almost perfect.

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This is a roster full of talented players that can both put the ball in the basket and also spread it around to the rest of their teammates.

The Clippers don't need to be predicated on one individual carrying the load offensively.

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I'm more concerned watching Butler and Mo. Butler looked slow and on his heels defensively all game, and mo has a chip on his shoulder and jacks up nasty shots off the dribble. Even the few that he made last night were low percentage shots..

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