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MeOhMy23
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like Orlando and Hou did with Yao and Dwight.Lakers with Bynum. Someone needs to teach Blake how to dominate.

Just add them to the current staff. This isnt a fire Vinny thread.

McHale would've been perfect. Is Moses Malone available?

Voyeur
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Yeah, Blake's doing fine, but any young star could use a mentor. He doesn't need to learn the Dreamshake or anything like that. Just polish some basic low post moves and good defense. He's improving already, but he also needs someone to help with setting picks. David Robinson wasn't really one of my favorite players while he was in the league, but he might be a decent choice for both Blake and DJ due to his athleticism.

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Hire Karl Malone! He's got nothing to do in Utah anyway.

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Was watching Game 6 of the 98 NBA Finals with the Jazz and Bulls yesterday. Malone is a beast! He is unstoppable and with Stockton, they formed a formidable duo. I want to see that from CP and BG. If we can get Malone, that would be great.

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Hello, what about Kenyon Martin?

MeOhMy23
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Kenyon never developed anything outside of catching lobs and dunking. You do not want Blake to mimic KMart's career.

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kenyon can shoot a bit, which is what he does now since his athleticism has diminished from what it once was. i think he could teach blake how to use his body to defend people in the post. karl malone could be a good mentor so he can teach blake to use his elbows to impose his will on opponents who try to play dirty against him

3pc
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Malone can teach him how to set screens and run pick and roll.

ClipperSam
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Either Malone of Hakeem would be great for both DJ and Blake!!!

slestack11
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How about Shaq...so he can call Blake "The Big Superman" instead of Howard.

Voyeur
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Hakeem was lousy at setting picks on a regular basis. Ewing and Malone were excellent. Robinson was pretty good. I can't remember, but I think Alonzo Mourning was also decent at it also.

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Not a bad choice. He actually seems to understand what Blake's strengths should be.

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Voyeur wrote:
slestack11 wrote:
How about Shaq...so he can call Blake "The Big Superman" instead of Howard.

Not a bad choice. He actually seems to understand what Blake's strengths should be.

He's the same guy who said Blake doesn't need a jumpshot. Shaq would shorten Blake's career.

No thanks.

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Grillinnap wrote:
Voyeur wrote:
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How about Shaq...so he can call Blake "The Big Superman" instead of Howard.

Not a bad choice. He actually seems to understand what Blake's strengths should be.

He's the same guy who said Blake doesn't need a jumpshot. Shaq would shorten Blake's career.

No thanks.

I agree the jump shot helps. But trust me...we don't want Blake to be a jump-shooter. His game should primarily be in the post. VDN should view lots and lots of tape of Karl Malone.

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blake is ultimately a different type of player than shaq and malone. shaq could teach him to work in the post, but blake can actually hit a jumper. so malone would most resemble bg. malone would make sense but hes a country boy, so idk how he would adjust in la. didnt look very happy in la when he was with the flakers.

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Is this thread for real or a bad joke?

MeOhMy23
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Blake has no O when teams slow the game down and defend the rim

Ghost_of_Eric_Piatkowski
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If you want the quintessential coach to teach a big man proper footwork, and back to the basket moves it would be Hakeem Olajuwon. Blake needs that 'Dream Shake' seeing how he likes to spin to the basket. If Blake can perfect the 'dream shake' ( stop mid spin and reverse to a fadeaway jumper) he would be insanely difficult to guard. Hakeem is still regarded to having the best footwork in the game, hence why Kobe hired him as a coach few summers ago.

Blake doesn't need significant help in any other areas besides his footwork. Other issues will fix via practice and time. Blake has no back to the basket skills, too one dimensional at this point. Back, Back, Spin, holds ball, no look to the basket so he passes, reset the post, and repeat.

Once he develops that jump shot... everything else will come easy.

ClipperSam
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I think BG is improving. But he defiently could use the assitance of Hakeem or Malone...

MeOhMy23
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My goodness. If people can't see he's regressing, they're blind. His offense is seriously lacking.

3pc
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last year Griffin had better moves and he actually used the glass on his jump shot..this year he sucks.

Hire blake a shooting coach...erase his shooting form now, it's ugly

Clipperfn4lf
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his form is fine it is all mental for him

ClipsGForce
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Blake is fine right now. Its still in work in progess. Like someone say hire "the Dream" to teach some basic post move. He also need to perfect his jumpshot so he would be able to drive in the basket. The free throw, however, is a different story.

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Clipperfn4lf wrote:
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last year Griffin had better moves and he actually used the glass on his jump shot..this year he sucks.

Hire blake a shooting coach...erase his shooting form now, it's ugly

his form is fine it is all mental for him

I disagree. It's too robotic. Reminds me of a Cal QB. It doesn't look natural or comfortable to him. You can tell someone coached him to shoot fundamentally and he tries to do it, but it's just not natural. He might need to change something, becuz his mid range game is horrible.

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You're saying that a guy who is top 10 in the league in scoring, rebounding and FG% sucks?

Shows what you know.

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cleepers wrote:
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last year Griffin had better moves and he actually used the glass on his jump shot..this year he sucks.

Hire blake a shooting coach...erase his shooting form now, it's ugly

You're saying that a guy who is top 10 in the league in scoring, rebounding and FG% sucks?

Shows what you know.

so you don't want to acknowledge his flaws? just hide it under the rug eh?

He needs to improve badly if he wants to be the best and not just known as a great dunker.

Offseason for Griffin...take kobe work ethics, 1000 shots a day or something...refined his post up game with some new moves. Work on his DAMN SCREEN, cause we all know he doesn't know how to set a screen

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^ It's widely known that his work ethic is impeccable.

As much as you're hugging Kobe's nuts, it's worth remembering that he's been in the league for 15½ seasons compared to Blake's 1½.

Kobe wasn't anything close to the player that Blake already is until his 4th season.

I'm not trying to sweep anything under the rug. I've never yet seen an interview with Blake where he doesn't say there's room for improvement in his game, but saying he 'sucks' is rubbish. He is, at the very least, a top 20 player in the world and nobody his age is even close.

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Griffin has his flaws but so does every player in the league...Even Kobe has flaws. Just ask his wife on his marital work ethic.

On a serious note. Kobe is driven by ego that is detrimental to his team. He's always been that way. Bigs are not known to be the greatest FT shooters so I think he deserves time to grow in that department.

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thanks for pointing that out. BG is improving. for one, his defense has gotten better. hes blocking shots now. 3pc seems to be forgetting that for all the shots that kobe has hit in the clutch, hes only a 43 percent career shooter from the field. and that includes the years he played with shaq. means he has taken a lot of ill advised shots his entire career. and i hope you dont bring up the titles he has, he has most of them cuz of shaq and playing with phil. BG works extremely hard. anyone who can retain their athleticism from a career altering injury doesnt just sit on their ass and not put in work. trust me BG will be a top 10 player sooner than later.

ClipperPlanet
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BG is an exceptional player. I think he has improved in some areas and regressed in other areas.

I think truly think what has changed is his confidence. He doesnt have the same confidence he had last year. Last year the team didnt have all this talent. I also think Barron Davis was looking for Blake alot more than CP3. Dont get me wrong I like CP3. But for some reason. I havnt seen CP3 run on the break as much as BD. There alot of time where I would see BG spin to the basket and CP3 is looking the other way. I havnt really understood why as great as CP3 is why at times he looks like he doesnt want to give BG the ball.

I honestly think that part of BG not being able to have those 35+ point games like he did last year. Is that CP3 doesnt get him the ball as much..

IMO it is taking longer than I expected for those 2 mesh as well as I had hoped.

For the Most part BD and BG were more Lob City...

Than BG and CP3 - I hope that changes...

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^ I don't give a rat's rectum about "Lob City". In 26 games last year, we were 5-21... This year we are 17-9.

Blake is not having 35 point games because we now have a TEAM!!!

ClipperPlanet
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Bro why you always seem so angry bro. You need to chill... I got yes were winning and I would rather have the wins. So I agree with you there. Hey I would still like to see CP3 do a better job of getting him the ball. I am hoping CP3 can run the Fast break a little more. Get him the ball in better spots. I just think the Barron was able to do that in a much better fashin. That doesn't mean I would rather have BD over CP3. I just thnk BD is a much more crafty passer. CP3 is defenitely the better Player. I would like to see CP3 push the ball and get BG in his spots. I would love to see BG go off for 50 and break his Career high if 44. He got in his Rookie year...

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^ I'm not angry, I'm just a typical Clippers fan.

For those of us who have spent years (some, even decades) following this team, it is vindication of our loyalty to suddenly see our team near the top of the standings. It is sweet music to our ears to hear the the words 'Clippers' and 'elite' uttered in the same sentence. It is unbelievably gratifying to watch the tip-off and EXPECT to win the game.

Year after year, we've waited for this, and during that time we've always had our highlights. Aberrational statistics for one game in points, assists, rebounds, blocks, steals... but those highlight clips almost always ended with the commentator saying "Clips end up losing this one", "Clippers came up short" or some variation thereof.

I was astounded at Blake's dunk over Mozgov in his 39-point baptism game, but you know what? We lost that game. Just another among 50 losses last season... 50 times I watched my team lose in less than 6 months!

This is what I've been watching for the last 8 years. The same old movie... everyone's favorite underdog getting beaten down. I saw it again in the '10-'11 season but still I dutifully cheered for the hero the same as every other year. This year, I'm ready for the sequel... "Rocky II"... the one where he doesn't just 'put up a good fight', but he actually wins.

So forgive me if at this point, I'm more passionate about the Clippers winning games than Blake being on top of the 'dunk ladder', or prefer having home court in the playoffs to leading the league in lobs. In some ways, I envy the fact that you can be so detached from the fortunes of the franchise, but mostly I pity you that you would think youtube hits would be more meaningful than an NBA championship. I guess it's a generational thing.

Chris Paul doesn't need to "push the ball and get BG in his spots", Blake Griffin doesn't need to "go off for 50" and I don't need to "chill". Everyone just needs to keep doing what they're doing... winning!

ClipperSam
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ClipperPlanet has a point I think you need to lay back and take a cold one. I belive you too are practically saying the same thing. It seems to me like you both want the Clippers to win. So, if you calm down a little maybe you'll understand what people are trying to say.

I think that was the best post you put up. but you need to relax.

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^ I have no respect for anything you have to say. You have been banned from this site once, and it's a sure bet that you will be again. Don't presume to tell me what I 'need' to do.

ClipperSam
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Hey I am not the only one that thinks you need to cool it. I am not looking for your respect and I think you've been warned quite a few times. If you keep it up. I am not going to be the person on my way out. So I will u let you sizzle a little bit. Hey bro your the one that needs to watch it not me...

ClipperPlanet
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Hey I am new to this blog but Cleepers your a little out of hand. I think someone needs to report u.

cleepers
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Go for it, guys... or should I say 'guy'.

You do know there's medication available for multiple personality disorder, right?

ClipperSam
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Wow!!! Rather than respond. I will take care of this....The Right way!!!

cleepers
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^ At no point have you even questioned that everyone here thinks 'ClipperSam' and 'ClipperPlanet' are the same person. Many of the the topbuzz faithful have suggested it, so tell us... do you have multiple personalities? Are you just supporting and agreeing with yourself?

Why don't you ask a moderator to cross check the IP's for these two accounts?

I dare you... and If I'm wrong, I'll absolutely admit it.

ClipperSam
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I would welcome it. You really have no idea what you are talking about do you? I agree with many individuals. You constantly are just putting down anyone who does not understand your perspective. I have agreed with many individuals on this website. I only was allowed back on this site as of a few hours ago. So, I really have no idea what you are talking about. Anyways, I will go through the proper Channels. Enough Said!!!

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^ Just let me know if the results of your IP 'checkup' check out. I have to say, I'm a little concerned for you.

I'd say your use of the word 'many' when talking about people agreeing with you might be overstating your support (especially if you're counting yourself as one of the 'many'), but to say I have 'no idea what I'm talking about' could constitute a ban, so you might want to tone that stuff down.

Good luck with your crusade... and I'm glad you're 'going through proper channels'. It makes me feel a lot more comfortable than you running around pursuing 'improper channels'.

ClipperSam
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ok- LOL.

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^ I have to get some sleep now. I hope I dream of the Clippers hoisting the Larry O'Brien trophy and I hope you dream of Vinny hoisting a pink-slip.

How's that for me being conciliatory?

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Second!

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They shouldn't waste time and money. They should get one coach for both DJ and Blake Immedietlly. Most of the names on this post would do the job....

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