Trey Thompkins Should Take Ryan Gomes Minutes.

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Travis Leslie
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Eric Bledsoe
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ClipperSam
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With what going on in New York. The whole Jeremy Lin. Lin, Lin, LIn. Here is a player that was basically going to be cut and is turning the NY franchise around. Another game winning shot in Toronto tonight.

I was thinking why not let Trey Thompkins play Gomes minutes and lets see what the kid can do. He seem to hustle, get rebounds and make 3pters. He seem like he can play from the inside and out. Hes probably no J-Lin. But I think he can be a top rookie in this league and he can play. Since Gomes has shown us nothing the past 2 years. I dont understand why trey cant at least play gomes mins 5-18 Mins a game would be nice. I also would like to see Travis Leslie he actually seems like he has some talent 2. I think Bledsoe will take some time recovering from his injury b4 he starts to shine a little.

What do the Clipper fans think?

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Should Trey take Gomes minutes? No, don't think we need another power forward getting a SFs minutes. Sure you can rotate him in more and give him some of Blake and Kenyons time so they rest more but not gomes..

I would actually love to see Travis Leslie get more minutes, at the sacrifice of Gomes's minutes. Leslie is athletic he is decent sized and i believe he can be a nice defender out there if given the chance.. Hopefully he doesn't become the next Willie Warren.

ClipperSam
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Trey is 6'10" but look like he can play the SF position. His body kind of reminds me of a Kevin Durant type pysique. He can post and shoot from the outside. But, I wouldnt mind seeing Travis Leslie getting a chance as well so we can see what he can do. I think Vinny needs to put them with the Starters a little bit and see how they can perform with the Starters. Next game would be the perfect time. If we get a nice lead. I would like to see them with the starter a little..

ClipperSam
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Hey also there is Player vote up top. Please select the player who should play more. Let see what the Clip fans think...

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I don't think so. Trey Thompkins hasn't shown much positives in the time he's played. He doesn't seem to have enough height/athleticism/strength to play inside/battle for boards, nor does he have the quickness to guard small forwards. He's supposed to be a good shooter, but most of the time I see him miss open jumpers. I'd rather Travis Leslie play more minutes instead- he looks like he can at least play good defense.

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I like both Trey and Leslie and would like to see them both Play.. But Trey is 6'10" thats pretty tall... Travis Leslie might have more potential but from the games I have seen them play. I have noticed that Trey has a lot of confidence more than what I have seen from leslie. But 2 me there both better than Gomes.

Trey Thompkins

L.A. Clippers

Position: Forward

Height: 6-10 Weight: 245

College: Georgia

Player file | Team stats

2011-12 Statistics

PPG

3.5

RPG

1.8

APG

0.3

SPG

0.2

BPG

0.2

FG%

0.364

FT%

0.714

3P%

0.200

MPG

7.9

Travis Leslie

L.A. Clippers

Position: Guard

Height: 6-4 Weight: 205

College: Georgia

Player file | Team stats

2011-12 Statistics

PPG

1.7

RPG

1.1

APG

0.6

SPG

0.1

BPG

0.3

FG%

0.385

FT%

0.400

3P%

0.000

MPG

5.3

clipsfansincebirth
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What world do you live in? Trey Tompkins is the tallest player on the entire team! Yes he is also strong and athletic.

Also please tell me how a player is supposed to produce when he never plays? I mean Jeremy Lin is proving that right now. He played just as many minutes last year with golden state as travis leslie and Trey thompkins plays now. Also Trey Thomkins would have been a first round pick if he stayed in school another year.

Please back stuff up with facts people!

david
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I must warn you about personal attacks- it's not welcome here nor are the people who make them.

As far as Trey Thompkins- it's my opinion and I'm sticking with it. Based on what I've seen so far, he should not be taking Ryan Gome's minutes.

ClipperSam
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Hey David

I am not much of a Gomes Fan. But, I think you don't go wrong with either Trey or Travis. I was just wondering though. I understand your point of view on athleticism & strength is debatable (plus we have to see the guy play a little more to dt). But what about the Height. I am not attacking just wondering. Whats your thoughts on that? Its interesting to me...

david
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I'm surprised to hear that he is 6'10" because he sure plays smaller than that. Maybe it's because his arms seem kind of short? But I see him lose the battle all the time inside for rebounds.

ClipperSam
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I think your right about playing small. Thats why I think he could play the 3. Like KD plays small too. But the guy can shoot the threes. Just a thought.. look at these collge videos of Trey and Travis,,,,,,,,,,

david
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^^That's what I keep hearing- he can shoot 3's. But every time I see him shoot a 3- he misses- like 90% of the time. Then I see him allow easy layups without fouling, gets his shots blocked easily around the rim, lose battles for rebounds versus smaller guys, and just doesn't seem to be quick to the ball. And this is all happening playing against the second unit of the other teams.

I mean I'm pulling for him but I just haven't seen anything from him yet.

delacious
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I would love to give Trey some of Gomes' minutes at least. Gomes has shown nothing at all, and I don't mean the fact that he just can't make a bucket, I'm talking about the hustle. There's no hustle at all from his part anymore. And that's kinda sad. I liked him. I thought he would step up this year at the 3 behind Caron. But that ain't happening, so yeah, give Trey some of his minutes. Trey may not be a 3, but neither is Gomes so. Let's see what he can do.

ClipperSam
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here 2 more

Reports prior to the Draft was that Travis

the Best Athlete in the 2011 in the draft but not the #1 player but should go in the 1st round.

Reports on Trey were that he had shades of a Tim Duncan at the 4

with a nice 3 point shot from the outside and should go in the 1st round

They both dropped to the Clips in the 2nd.....

ClipperSam
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Trey Thompkins College Stats

College Statistics

College

Year

GP

MIN

FG%

3FG%

FT%

RPG

APG

SPG

BPG

PPG

Georgia Bulldogs

2008-09

28

26.0

.434

.384

.726

7.4

0.8

1.0

1.1

12.6

Georgia Bulldogs

2009-10

31

31.0

.483

.377

.762

8.3

1.9

1.0

1.2

17.7

Georgia Bulldogs

2010-11

30

31.2

.481

.311

.689

7.6

1.4

1.1

1.7

16.4

Career

89

29.5

.469

.357

.729

7.8

1.4

1.0

1.3

15.7

VS

Travis Leslie College Stats

Year

G-GS

Min-Avg.

FG-FGA

Pct.

3FG-3FGA

Pct.

FT-FTA

Pct.

Reb.-Avg.

A

TO

BL

ST

PF-DQ

Pts-Avg.

2009

26-4

411-15.8

71-159

.447

0-3

.000

23-40

.575

40+62=102-3.9

16

27

13

21

31-0

165-6.3

2010

31-31

913-29.5

169-347

.487

6-11

.545

114-155

.735

96+116=212-6.8

78

82

30

40

65-0

458-14.8

2011

33-33

1062-32.2

177-360

.492

13-43

.302

109-136

.801

106+131=237-7.2

97

71

20

40

63-1

476-14.4

TOTALS

90-68

2386-26.5

417-866

.482

19-57

.333

246-331

.743

242+309=551-6.1

191

180

63

101

159-1

1099-12.2

ClipperSam
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Trey Thompkins has 7'1" Wingspan just read it in his Bio and a Leaping Vertical of 32"

Travis Leslie has 6'10" Wingspan and has a Leaping vertical of 41" Wow

Trey Career college stats

Sophomore 17 points and 12 rebounds 1.7 Blocks a game

Travis

Career 14.4 Pts and 8 Rebounds 2 assist

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i think the problem with both of these guys not getting many minutes is that our coaching staff has the attitude that if we play them first, as the second team starters, the older vets....

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Haha too funny. Yes lets have a 4th string PF play SF. U guys need to give up on clowning on Gomes. Yes his offense has been horrible but truth is he's our 2nd best SF on the team. Even though it doesn't show on the stats, he still does a decent job on defense for the minutes he receives. It's not always about pts. If Butler gets tired, there's no one on the team that I want besides Gomes to guard the elite SF's like Durant, Lebron, Granger, Pierce, AI, Gay, etc. Kenyon Martin is capable but u don't play 2 PF's and a C at once cus ur going to clog the paint on offense.

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Jeremy Lin is a once every ten years revelation... Perhaps Willie Warren should have been given big minutes last year in hopes that he would have become our Jeremy Lin... The coaches see these guys in practice. I coach high school basketball. In all the years I've been doing it, I have never seen one kid who wasn't able to earn his minutes in practice, but suddenly lit it up the second I put him in a game. It just doesn't happen... For every one Jeremy Lin there are 10,000 Willie Warrens, guys who didn't get their opportunity because they weren't talented enough to earn it.

Lin was in Golden State playing behind very good guards. He had no opportunity... In New York, he had no opportunity playing behind Shumpert, who was doing well. But he was a good practice player and when Shumpert got hurt, he got his moment and was ready to seize it...

Hey, if Wally Pipp hadn't gotten injured maybe Lou Gehrig would be a totally unfamiliar name. Guys who don't come into the league high profile have to find a way to get attention. The best way is dominate in practice and force the coach to give you time. I suspect Lin did exactly that... Trey Thompkins I suspect isn't.

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You say that because you are a coach. I have been on teams were the bench guys get no run can dominate the kids that play. Sometimes politics comes into who will play or not. You have more invested in certain players so they will give them a better chance. Plus if you look at Lins game he is not super fast he can not jump real high. and he also doesn't look that quick. Lin is a extremely smart player that just has a knack and great feel for the game. You cant always see that when your are at practice. His skill set shines in games and I could imagine he doesnt stand out in practice.

Every coach sees something different in players. The team you coach SamMays I be willing to bet if another person came to your team to coach they would see your players in a different light. Some players that werent getting the minutes may get a more because they see something different. Doesn't make him a better coach its just he believed in some one else.

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Gomes hasn't done one thing right since he arrived in L.A. Trey is definitely not a SF coming into the league but for 10 spot minutes I'd take a guy who can spot up, rebound, and slash to hole.

He might be terrible in a real competitive situation instead of garbage time...but we won't know unless he gets a chance. It's definitely not ideal but I don't see how we can do any worse. If the guy performs, we just filled a gaping hole in our rotations and we control this dude for 3 years for no money. Top heavy teams like ours has become need to find cheap guys to contribute. Vinny should just give him a chance and see what happens. There's nothing to lose.

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I'd be fine with trying out Leslie too but at 6'4" he gives up a lot of size to SFs. Whatever it is, just try something that doesn't include continuing to run Gomes out there night in and night out. I don't care that we're paying him 4mil. He does not deserve to get minutes on a winning team.

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clipsfansincebirth wrote:
david wrote:
I don't think so. Trey Thompkins hasn't shown much positives in the time he's played. He doesn't seem to have enough height/athleticism/strength to play inside/battle for boards, nor does he have the quickness to guard small forwards. He's supposed to be a good shooter, but most of the time I see him miss open jumpers. I'd rather Travis Leslie play more minutes instead- he looks like he can at least play good defense.

What world do you live in? Trey Tompkins is the tallest player on the entire team! Yes he is also strong and athletic.

Also please tell me how a player is supposed to produce when he never plays? I mean Jeremy Lin is proving that right now. He played just as many minutes last year with golden state as travis leslie and Trey thompkins plays now. Also Trey Thomkins would have been a first round pick if he stayed in school another year.

Please back stuff up with facts people!

ERRRRRR wrong, DeAndre Jordan is the tallest playing on the entire team.

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This is ridiculous LOL. Gomes is a better player than Thompkins by a mile. If Mo Williams were struggling there'd be a thread to ship him off or amnesty him. Thompkins is too slow and not athletic enough to play the 3 at all. Unless were just going to have a USELESs player out there playing a spot he's not supposed to be playing, letting the other team know that HEY, were not going to pass to that guy, don't worry he won't post up on you so feel free to let YOUR sf play more help defense and pressure our other shooters on the offensive end, and oh yeah start running screens with your SF and use his quickness and skill out match Thompkins on the other end!

Thompkins was drafted to be a deep bench player in case we have an oh crap situation and one of our bigs gets hurt. Honestly, anyone here that doesn't wanna play Gomes has 0 clue how to evaluate talent, has no clue how to coach and 0 clue how basketball works. There's a REASON Thompkins gets garbage minutes folks, he's not that talented. There's a reason he doesn't get minutes at the 3, he can't play there. There's a reason we don't give him more minutes and it's because we have a healthy team in the front court and were WINNING.

First Gomes, now there's a thread to start K-Mart over Jordan, whose next? Start Mo over CP3? Bledsoe over CP3 or Foye? Were not trying to develop talent here outside of the two guys we have playing PF and C that start, and the combo guard we have on the bench named Bledsoe. Were a winning club and Gomes already had his minutes reduced last game against Dallas in which he went 1-2 with a foul in 6 minutes and change.

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^ No need to call out people's basketball knowledge just because they don't like Gomes. The fact is he's overpaid and underproducing. I welcome any suggestions that keep him off the wood even if I don't agree with them.

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Short answer,,,no. And i voted to let young Eric get more minutes when he can. Face it,,,our roatation is set with this shortened season. We may get a JR or may not,,but our team is set,,I am pretty sure anyhow.

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I voted for Eric to get more minutes which means a smaller lineup ( just wanted to say that first )

Gomes is overpaid, however he started for us last year and was given that money based on the fact he would start and we literally, had 0 people to play the SF position. Nobody would come here, we couldn't sign anyone that was better than Gomes. He chose to come here, he didn't have to but he DID.

Gomes needs feel good minutes right now folks, plain and simple. When were blowing out Washington tonight as I expect we will, he should get playing time. Washington has probably the worst defense in the league and the most unselfish players in the NBA.

I hope we do blow out Washington tonight and Gomes gets to play with Bledsoe and we run and gun and he gets a few buckets. I'm not a super big fan of Gomes but let's face facts guys hes going to get minutes for our team, he's going to play almost every night. He needs something to get him outta this slump.

Maybe his wife should take away sex or give him more, I have no idea but we need him to do SOMETHING off the bench for us. He could be a big contributor off the bench for us in the playoffs hitting a 3pter here and there and grabbing a key rebound or two. I do not wanna see a Vlad Rad 2.0 on the bench whose sposed to hit 3pters for us and give us decent scoring off the bench and he sucks.

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its funny that gomes seems to make a jumper a game, even when he plays garbage time, yet thompkins in 5 min can score several baskets and look like hes happy to be playing. even brian cook comes in with energy. gomes on the other looks very lackadaiscal out there and even fears shooting the ball, even in garbage time. i agree bledsoe needs to play more, hes a pure pg not a shooter and thats what we need, a true backup pg.

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Amnesty_David_Stern wrote:
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^ No need to call out people's basketball knowledge just because they don't like Gomes. The fact is he's overpaid and underproducing. I welcome any suggestions that keep him off the wood even if I don't agree with them.

I voted for Eric to get more minutes which means a smaller lineup ( just wanted to say that first )

Gomes is overpaid, however he started for us last year and was given that money based on the fact he would start and we literally, had 0 people to play the SF position. Nobody would come here, we couldn't sign anyone that was better than Gomes. He chose to come here, he didn't have to but he DID.

Gomes needs feel good minutes right now folks, plain and simple. When were blowing out Washington tonight as I expect we will, he should get playing time. Washington has probably the worst defense in the league and the most unselfish players in the NBA.

I hope we do blow out Washington tonight and Gomes gets to play with Bledsoe and we run and gun and he gets a few buckets. I'm not a super big fan of Gomes but let's face facts guys hes going to get minutes for our team, he's going to play almost every night. He needs something to get him outta this slump.

Maybe his wife should take away sex or give him more, I have no idea but we need him to do SOMETHING off the bench for us. He could be a big contributor off the bench for us in the playoffs hitting a 3pter here and there and grabbing a key rebound or two. I do not wanna see a Vlad Rad 2.0 on the bench whose sposed to hit 3pters for us and give us decent scoring off the bench and he sucks.

Shhh! Don't mention his wife, dude. She'll go all scary on your a$$ on Twitter! Yellow_Flash_Colorz_PDT_45

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ala doug christie's wife lol

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I was happy to see Eric get some Quality minutes today. I had hoped he play just a little more with the Starters. But I saw one sign of his quickness that surprised me one play. When he blew by the entire team. Hopefully he can get a few more quality minutes a game. I would also like Vinny to try it with Trey or Leslie out there as well. I was especially excited that Gomes basically didn't get anyminutes out there. I was also glad to see Cook hit his first shot out there. Like I have been saying I think even Cook is a better player then Gomes. Good game for the Clips...

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To again quote Don Nelson

"No rookies on the wood"

First you're more likely to find a straight hairdresser than a Jeremy Linn. There are exceptions. I'm ecxtatic (sp) that we found him for two reasons. First because he is intelligent, doesn't carry a gun and can conjugate a verb. He like BG will help our reputation as a sport.

Second: Baron will get hemmorhoids from sitting on the bench

During the PO's VDN will get a lot of flack from the squad for playing a rook over a tested Vet. No rookie will play "instead" of Gomes.

Bledsoe fouled out faster than the Republicans change frontrunners. I've seen nothing at all from him except a few missed layups. No kudos yet but he needs a lot more time. He should be able to slash and collapse the defense

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i want to see more of Thompkins. alot less of Cook/Gomes.

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And we'll start losing or blowing leads.

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No Smith so we need a new plan B I'm back on board for Thompkins at the 3.

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bledsoe is barely getting his feet under him. thats why he missed layups in which he normally would have dunked on. hes probably at 60 percent right now. he just needs to get back into playing shape. and even then, hes doing much more than gomes who is in game shape. tells you how much gomes has been struggling.

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We still should see more Trey IMO!

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agreed. he can do no worse than gomes. give him a real shot. who knows, we can have our version of linsanity here lol. but in all seriousness give him a shot.

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TreySanity... LOL

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i agree. the politics in question for the clips would be if the clips veterans dont get upset by sitting a vet in favor of a rookie. but i feel since billups, cp3, butler, BG want to win they would come around when they see thompkins helping the clips win. the kid has a knack of knowing where to be to grab the loose ball and score. plus he can probably make the 3 better than gomes. the point give him some time. maybe rotate gomes and thompkins on a game by game basis. whoever ends up producing, then keep him as the primary sf backup.

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trey would be worth a go, can't get any worst than gomes at the moment right

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Playing Trey = leads lost which means games lost. There's a reason why him and Leslie don't play folks, get over yourselves this isn't a video game.

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^^^^Playing Ryan Gomes= Games Lost. This is proven. What happens when Trey takes his minutes is not proven. Don't act like you have any clue whatsoever what would happen if Trey got Gomes's minutes. You don't know any better than anyone else because it's never happened.

The only thing that is a fact is that Gomes is capable of singlehandedly losing games. This takes a special level of suck that I have seen very rarely in the NBA...Yet you inexplicably continue to support him getting minutes? Strange to say the least.

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I dont know with Ryan Gomes anymore. I try to support the guy and give him a chance thinking he will turn it around but he keeps giving me reasons to despise him

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calm down bro. not everyone mentions that we should play trey without facts. the facts right now are that gomes is not producing. we dont have anyone else to play backup sf, closest thing to that is thompkins. and you are right this is not a video game because in the video game, gomes is given too much credit in the player ratings when compared to real life. if the ratings were real life ratings, then gomes would never be hated because he would actually produce. just saying

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