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    Post subject: does it seem like kamen only has like 2 moves  PostPosted: Mar 05, 2008 - 05:51 PM PST
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    the spin and the lil hook thats all he does WE Need some Changes here FAST cuz i looks like we are turning into the same old clipps
     
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    Post subject:   PostPosted: Mar 05, 2008 - 06:13 PM PST
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    I agree. Very oftern the Clips have a boring offense. All one-on-one on the outside or pound it into CK. If I wasn't already a Clips fan, I would not be able to watch more than 5 minutes.

    However, they might be boring because they haven't worked on execution as a team. The team they are playing now is not the team they ran in practice with during the summer. In the summer, Kaman in the post and Thronton isolation were not the main options (pick&roll with EBG probably was). So they have not had a chance to develop a coherent game plan around the players they've got. And anything they have developed is constantly sabotaged by guys missing games. When they do execute a play (such as Magette's curl) they make something happen. I'd like to give them an opportunity to develop as a team this summer, and then actually PLAY WITH THAT SAME GROUP OF GUYS.
     
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    ether wrote:
    I agree. Very oftern the Clips have a boring offense. All one-on-one on the outside or pound it into CK. If I wasn't already a Clips fan, I would not be able to watch more than 5 minutes.

    However, they might be boring because they haven't worked on execution as a team. The team they are playing now is not the team they ran in practice with during the summer. In the summer, Kaman in the post and Thronton isolation were not the main options (pick&roll with EBG probably was). So they have not had a chance to develop a coherent game plan around the players they've got. And anything they have developed is constantly sabotaged by guys missing games. When they do execute a play (such as Magette's curl) they make something happen. I'd like to give them an opportunity to develop as a team this summer, and then actually PLAY WITH THAT SAME GROUP OF GUYS.

    Good post!

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    EB will allow Kaman to advance his game. Right now he's using what he knows he can do. Right now Kaman is the only legit inside player and he doesnt have time to be creative. He's just trying to get the job done. And when our outside shooting isnt ON, they just double him and double him anyways.

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    One of the reasons you see only 2 moves is that the defensive player"S" are on him like flies on a sugar cube. His passing and his ability to deal with a double team have improved markedly and with few TO's. He actually backed someone down tonight. His spin move is becoming really FAST. If Chris developed a good jumper he'd be almost unguardable. If we had good perimeter shooters .... BTW he slammed one tonight
     
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    2 moves? I think he's got more moves than most centers in the league. Sometimes he makes too many moves, but he's getting better as toohip said in being more efficient.

    Ether & JLemm are right- we just don't have all the weapons back yet to take less pressure off of Kaman. It'd be exciting to see once everyone's back- hopefully we'll get a sneak peak with about 5 games left!
     
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    Kaman is still maturing as a player...His metamorphose hasn't still finished. He can be still better. He should try to work more on his outside shoot near the basket. And about Kaman's moves is obvious that, as the mates say, he has more moves than most centers in the league. Ask for moves to players like Chandler, Dwight Howard, Dalembert and other centers and I'm sure Kaman could school them
     
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    Exactly Miquel...

    And remember Rik Smits, Vlade Divac?? Pretty good centers on champ. caliber teams. They werent athletic, they just got their shots to fall. They may have been predictable, but they made what they knew work. Kaman could be so much more than them because he can move around better and he's still young. I like your thinking Miquel, he definitely has room to improve, and when the Clippers team actually starts playing well (which probably will be next year), he'll start getting mentioned among the top centers in the league.

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