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Post subject: Agent Zero--Clippers to Pursue According to Report
 Posted: Mar 17, 2008 - 06:28 PM
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By Sam Amico
ProBasketballNews.com
A high-ranking Western Conference executive with knowledge of the situation has told Pro Basketball News that both the Los Angeles Lakers and Los Angeles Clippers plan to "strongly pursue" Washington Wizards guard Gilbert Arenas this summer. Arenas is signed through 2009, but has said he will exercise the early termination option in his contract and become a free agent.
Arenas missed the end of last year and has played
in just eight games this season following two knee
operations.
While the Wizards would be able to sign him to a
longer deal than any other team (seven years
compared to five), the source told PBN they may
be hesitant to offer him the maximum contract
-- mostly because they've managed to stay in the playoff race without him.
"They value (Caron) Butler and Antawn Jamison
at least as much, probably more at this point," the source said. "They want to build the team around them."
The source added, "That doesn't mean the Wizards will let Arenas walk for nothing. But if the Lakers and Clippers push for him as much as expected, it's likely to result in a sign-and-trade."
If that's the case, the Lakers may be willing to part with forward Lamar Odom and guard Derek Fisher, and/or a few bench players, according to the source (Odom's contract expires at the end of next season).
Meanwhile, the Clippers have reportedly been trying to deal forward Corey Maggette and "would be willing to trade the entire team if it meant pairing Arenas with Elton Brand (also out for the year with a knee injury)
," the source said.
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I would like to point out that the chance of the Lakers getting Gilbert is 0 to none, unless, he signs for no money, or they trade either Gasol, or Bryant for him.
The Clippers might just be able to work something else. We shall see, we shall see. |
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Post subject: RE: Agent Zero--Clippers to Pursue According to Report
Posted: Mar 17, 2008 - 08:18 PM
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| Interesting- though I wouldn't overpay for Arenas. I don't think he's a max player simply because of his injury problems.... |
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Post subject: RE: Agent Zero--Clippers to Pursue According to Report
Posted: Mar 17, 2008 - 08:20 PM
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| So does that mean that they would even try to trade Kaman, & Thorton to get this guy? Doesn't seem logical |
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Post subject: RE: Agent Zero--Clippers to Pursue According to Report
Posted: Mar 17, 2008 - 10:05 PM
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The article suggests that needing to be done to get him (clipperfan714)...but I'm sorry its not worth it.
The lineup of Kaman, Brand and Thornton is pretty scary. All we need is someone who can shoot from the outside and distribute the ball and we're fine. |
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Post subject: Re: RE: Agent Zero--Clippers to Pursue According to Report
Posted: Mar 17, 2008 - 11:47 PM
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jlemmen43 wrote:
The article suggests that needing to be done to get him (clipperfan714)...but I'm sorry its not worth it.
The lineup of Kaman, Brand and Thornton is pretty scary. All we need is someone who can shoot from the outside and distribute the ball and we're fine.
I agree. Arenas needs his touches and sharing them with Brand, Kaman, Thornton is not something I wanna see. I like him but I just don't think he will fit here. If that is the case then I want Maggette to stay. His shooting has been lights out as of late and I see Maggette playing better defense. All we need is a good shooting PG and a young shooting SG to come off the bench.
Here is the core I would start next season if we go with my plan:
1. PG - ????? FA or Livingston
2. SG- maggette ( only if we keep him)
3. C- Kaman
4. SF- Thornton
5. PF- Brand
Keep:
Ross
Mobley
Davis
Thomas (maybe but would rather trade him)
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Post subject: Re: RE: Agent Zero--Clippers to Pursue According to Report
Posted: Mar 18, 2008 - 12:57 AM
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clipper*joe wrote:
jlemmen43 wrote:
The article suggests that needing to be done to get him (clipperfan714)...but I'm sorry its not worth it.
The lineup of Kaman, Brand and Thornton is pretty scary. All we need is someone who can shoot from the outside and distribute the ball and we're fine.
I agree. Arenas needs his touches and sharing them with Brand, Kaman, Thornton is not something I wanna see. I like him but I just don't think he will fit here. If that is the case then I want Maggette to stay. His shooting has been lights out as of late and I see Maggette playing better defense. All we need is a good shooting PG and a young shooting SG to come off the bench.
Here is the core I would start next season if we go with my plan:
1. PG - ????? FA or Livingston
2. SG- maggette ( only if we keep him)
3. C- Kaman
4. SF- Thornton
5. PF- Brand
Keep:
Ross
Mobley
Davis
Thomas (maybe but would rather trade him)
Find all other players
Two problems with your plan;
1) Maggette doesn't quite suit the SG position. Maggette should stay at SF and Thornton should provide back up. Mobley needs to improve and shoudl take the SG position. And where's the depth?
2) The PG. Livingston is not a reliable point guard. We have to use our draft pick and get lucky like we did this year, or just sign a talented PG. |
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Post subject: Re: RE: Agent Zero--Clippers to Pursue According to Report
Posted: Mar 18, 2008 - 01:47 AM
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laclippers wrote:
clipper*joe wrote:
jlemmen43 wrote:
The article suggests that needing to be done to get him (clipperfan714)...but I'm sorry its not worth it.
The lineup of Kaman, Brand and Thornton is pretty scary. All we need is someone who can shoot from the outside and distribute the ball and we're fine.
I agree. Arenas needs his touches and sharing them with Brand, Kaman, Thornton is not something I wanna see. I like him but I just don't think he will fit here. If that is the case then I want Maggette to stay. His shooting has been lights out as of late and I see Maggette playing better defense. All we need is a good shooting PG and a young shooting SG to come off the bench.
Here is the core I would start next season if we go with my plan:
1. PG - ????? FA or Livingston
2. SG- maggette ( only if we keep him)
3. C- Kaman
4. SF- Thornton
5. PF- Brand
Keep:
Ross
Mobley
Davis
Thomas (maybe but would rather trade him)
Find all other players
Two problems with your plan;
1) Maggette doesn't quite suit the SG position. Maggette should stay at SF and Thornton should provide back up. Mobley needs to improve and shoudl take the SG position. And where's the depth?
2) The PG. Livingston is not a reliable point guard. We have to use our draft pick and get lucky like we did this year, or just sign a talented PG.
1) No problem there, Maggette plays both positions and will provide close defense from opposing players out in the perimeter. This opens up the post with either Brand , Kaman or Thornton who can score from the outside as well as driving the lane. If I remember correctly , didn't Maggette and Mobley split the time at SG last season? The depth? I wasn't including the depth cause....we don't have it and it is something we need to take care of in the off -season. This was only a list of core players that should be untouchable if Maggette decides to stay with us.
2) Livingston has had his problems but I am not giving up on the kid just yet. I also included FA on the list just for good measure and security. I agree we should go after a PG in the draft but I also think we could get cheap veteran if we can somehow let go of Brevin Knight. I like the guy but I don't see him working out next season. I would rather go get a bit younger PG if possible.
I know the subject kind of changed from talking about Arenas to our new line up but I just wanted to make it clear I would rather have Maggette than Arenas on our squad. If we can make it happen I am sure we could compete with the Elite come next season. |
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Posted: Mar 18, 2008 - 01:53 AM
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Corey gives me heartburn. Why can't he always be a pain in the arse so getting rid of him would be easy. The rub is that the whole team's never played together and Corey and Cat aren't leaders. How will the new & improved CK play whith EB. Corey is much less the Butterfingered Bull in a China Shoppe. Corey will stay if we pay him. If he leaves we'll be thin at SF (Lamar's available  ). Ben Gordon and Cat are good @ SG. Davis was doing well and so is Powell and are cheap. Thornton's cheap. Thomas is expendable (his 3's aren't there) but for some strange reason he's been kickin'. If Livingston is back he should come off the bench. We can't depend on his health. It sounds sh**ty but maybe we should sign him as a free agent if possible (cheap) Does Calderon have enough firepower? Areanas ain't the man.
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Posted: Mar 18, 2008 - 11:36 AM
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| But clipper*joe (I don't want to quote because it'oll be really long:D) last season wasn't to great with Maggette playing SG. I suppose it may work, but what would be your depth chart for next year if the Clips followed your plan? |
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laclippers wrote:
But clipper*joe (I don't want to quote because it'oll be really long:D) last season wasn't to great with Maggette playing SG. I suppose it may work, but what would be your depth chart for next year if the Clips followed your plan?
Maggette actually played "smart" when he started in the final stretch of last year's season. His ability to drive and get fouled is more suited for a SG then a SF IMHO. I rather use him in that position to not only spread the floor but to make our team bigger and compete with the Elite teams that have adapted to using bigger players ( Lakers, Suns etc.). Not only would we have the big players to compete but we would have the speed in all positions.
Livingston 6-7"
Maggette 6-6"
Thornton 6-8"
Brand 6-8"
Kaman 7-0"
That is a great line up if ever I saw one. Tall, fast and one of the best front courts in the league. Now, Livingston is a big "?" but I think he will recover well.
Now the depth is a difficult situation and is too early to say what can and can't be done but if I was the GM, I would start thinking about bringing in some vets (cheap and vetted) and fill out the roster with draft picks.
I would include another veteran PG and a PG from the draft. Livingston isn't going anywhere so I would let go of Brevin and Dickau and grab a veteran with passing and shooting skills. We don't need both of them with Livingston coming back so grabbing a vet and a pg from the draft will solidify that position. I would have kept Patterson to back Thornton and maybe another PF for Brand. I'm not sold on Davis so I would see what I can get in replacement for him. Most deep benches have veterans that can
maintain a lead while the starters are on the bench (Spurs, Mavs) and I don't see anyone like that on our bench other than Mobley. We need depth
and a shooting PG. The missing pieces are not out of reach... |
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| Clips are never ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever everrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr gonna get that fagg0t arenas |
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I just heard the LAKERS are going after him......
http://probasketballnews.com/pbn_arenas031708.html
A high-ranking Western Conference executive with knowledge of the
situation has told Pro Basketball News that both the Los Angeles Lakers
and Los Angeles Clippers plan to "strongly pursue" Washington Wizards
guard Gilbert Arenas this summer. Arenas is signed through 2009, but
has said he will exercise the early termination option in his contract
and become a free agent.
Arenas missed the end of last year and has played
in just eight games this season following two knee
operations.
While the Wizards would be able to sign him to a
longer deal than any other team (seven years
compared to five), the source told PBN they may
be hesitant to offer him the maximum contract
-- mostly because they've managed to stay in the playoff race without him.
"They value (Caron) Butler and Antawn Jamison
at least as much, probably more at this point," the source said. "They want to build the team around them."
The source added, "That doesn't mean the Wizards will let Arenas walk
for nothing. But if the Lakers and Clippers push for him as much as
expected, it's likely to result in a sign-and-trade."
If that's the case, the Lakers may be willing to part with forward
Lamar Odom and guard Derek Fisher, and/or a few bench players,
according to the source (Odom's contract expires at the end of next
season).
Meanwhile, the Clippers have reportedly been trying to deal forward
Corey Maggette and "would be willing to trade the entire team if it
meant pairing Arenas with Elton Brand (also out for the year with a
knee injury)," the source said.
According to the Washington Post, the most the Wizards could offer
Arenas this summer is a three-year extension worth no more than $70
million. But any deal wouldn't begin until his original contract
expires in 2009. "Once he opts out, Arenas would be eligible to sign a
maximum contract covering six years and worth between $90 and $100
million, depending on the salary cap," the Post wrote. |
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Clips are never ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever everrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr gonna get that fagg0t arenas
Glad to know you have 8 words in your vocabulary. I know it's hard for you to write a complete sentence and I understand you need to repeat words over and over just to fill a post but c'mon, isn't it a bit extreme? How long did it take you? Did you need help in spelling? Did you have to write it on paper first? Did someone proof read it for you before you typed it?
What a chump, you went through the process of registering on this site for a
post that intelligent and insightful? Next time proof read your 8 words before hitting submit. You can't even spell or capitalize. Whats even more funny is how you can't even spell expletives correctly. You use letters and not numbers ...you fool. |
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clipperfan714 wrote:
I just heard the LAKERS are going after him......
http://probasketballnews.com/pbn_arenas031708.html
A high-ranking Western Conference executive with knowledge of the
situation has told Pro Basketball News that both the Los Angeles Lakers
and Los Angeles Clippers plan to "strongly pursue" Washington Wizards
guard Gilbert Arenas this summer. Arenas is signed through 2009, but
has said he will exercise the early termination option in his contract
and become a free agent.
Arenas missed the end of last year and has played
in just eight games this season following two knee
operations.
While the Wizards would be able to sign him to a
longer deal than any other team (seven years
compared to five), the source told PBN they may
be hesitant to offer him the maximum contract
-- mostly because they've managed to stay in the playoff race without him.
"They value (Caron) Butler and Antawn Jamison
at least as much, probably more at this point," the source said. "They want to build the team around them."
The source added, "That doesn't mean the Wizards will let Arenas walk
for nothing. But if the Lakers and Clippers push for him as much as
expected, it's likely to result in a sign-and-trade."
If that's the case, the Lakers may be willing to part with forward
Lamar Odom and guard Derek Fisher, and/or a few bench players,
according to the source (Odom's contract expires at the end of next
season).
Meanwhile, the Clippers have reportedly been trying to deal forward
Corey Maggette and "would be willing to trade the entire team if it
meant pairing Arenas with Elton Brand (also out for the year with a
knee injury)," the source said.
According to the Washington Post, the most the Wizards could offer
Arenas this summer is a three-year extension worth no more than $70
million. But any deal wouldn't begin until his original contract
expires in 2009. "Once he opts out, Arenas would be eligible to sign a
maximum contract covering six years and worth between $90 and $100
million, depending on the salary cap," the Post wrote.
That would be great if he signs with the Lakers. I can see Kobe and Arenas fighting over touches and then Gasol & Bynum going at it as well. This would never work and I would luv to see it happen. 2 SG's of that caliber will never work out...nuff said. |
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yeah, that wad the same article  , lakers hav no room amd like clipper joe said theyd fight like crazy. and to "clipperssuck" how bored are you? you took the 10 minutes to register and waste time just to make ur self look stupid? |
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| Sorry, JamFan, but I truly believe the Clippers will be "fine" with Brand, Kaman, Thornton and a backcourt. And by "fine" I mean good enough to compete for a playoff spot. You cannot buy wins, you have to get the talent and then get the most out of it. Bottom line is if Brand and Livingston were playing from the beginning, our outcome would be different this year. |
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1st, there is not enough ball to go around for both Kobe and Gilbert
The LAKERS would not give KOBE away, but they have more depth to trade away to pursue Gilbert or at least involve another team to make a 3 way trade.
The CLIPPERS NEED both a PG and SG, and the verdict is still out on Livingston as far as I'm concerned.
Gilbert would be a good, but not great fit, for the fact that.....
1) our offense would compliment him,
2) he would be playing in a major market,
3) he can try and steal the lime light away from the LAKERS,
4) he is a native of Southern California which would further entice him to come home
5) and we have the money to pay him for a 5 year deal
He's not the 1st bite I would chew on being that there are others (Baron Davis, Mike Miller, Ben Gordon, Jose Calderon etc)
But if we can't get who we want, than we need to get some type of solidified star in the backcourt. |
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