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Id love to have a thread to talk about the Roster of the new season, for this season is set already, so I started one.

Where do we need to improve & what do you think for pieces do we need to even build a championship Roster?

So my guess is:

PG: CP3 & EB ->is set (together at least $19.5M on salary).

Eb could only be traded for a young and highly perspective player with kind of a rookie contract. Id do this only for bigger SF (Justin Lamb would be a perfect example to give you an idea).

PF: BG -> set (at least $7.3M a year).

Kmart Id only sign for around $3M per year. Because if it is more, well have ( big) problem with the luxury tax line (ill get to that later). So there might be an open spot on the roster.

C: DJ -> set ( $ 10.5M) for the start of the season, if no other in that category and for that price comes along, which I highly doubt. Reggie or some other big in that price category should be signed ($ 1.3M a year).

Now the categories are coming where the biggest changes need to be made, if we want to get to championship like roster.

SG: Chauncey should be set, if he can be signed around $2.5 a year (luxury! - find my summary to that at the end). For we cant be sure hell last the season because of his age & injury Randy Foye (with a salary of $4.5M a year) should be set too. I like his price and effort combined and in that he could be the perfect substitution for Chauncey when beeing injured during he season.

N.Young: Though not overwhelmed by his effort, do we need a big forward and given the chance we can sign him for around $5 with the home bonus, i think hes set. If he wants more another alternative needs to be found.

Gomes: Needs to be traded or amnestied with his $4M salary, which brings us again to the luxury line. The 1st of option is for sure the better one.

SF:There is CB and Mo. EACH of them will earn at least $8.2M a year. (Guess now you know why well have problems with the luxury line).

One of them at least has to go. Mo is gone sure for me, because we need size - either via trade if he opts in or he opts out.

With getting him & Gomes of the rooster there is even space maybe to sign a big SF & keep Randy Foye (or if needed pay NY or Kmart or Chauncey a little more).

CB - I think we might could do better because of his price & age but as long there is no option -> he should be set.

This roster would leave us approx. $6M in salaries for a big forward.

With Mo and a couple of fillers like Bobby and Thompkins we would be around $72M where we cross the luxury tax line and with Gomes even by far more.

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There is a chance we could make it to and win the NBA Finals this year dude, what would we need to improve on if we did? Too early to be talking about this, I know in the past our teams have pretty much been crap but the times are changing and with it, we need to change as well.

Let's hold off on future roster moves / free agent / draft talk until we end the season. It's easier to say that now with like 9 games left and the playoffs than it is with 45 games left and maybe no playoffs. Hold off until then, bookmark the page and bump it once we win or were out.

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I really hope we can win this title this year I've never been more excited about this teams future though and such a young team winning the whole thing would really be amazing(With VDN as our coach though doubt it<and the main reason I say next year)

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Dude, let us win the championship! but there is no automatic that the next roster will have the quality. Maybe an admin can change the perhaps to even...or leave out the championship.

Other than that there is no sense in this not beeing allowed to talk about a new roster in a thread, when the actual is set till the end of season and and even the end of season is so near.

I want to talk about and as it seems ... I am not the only one. So if you dont like it you dont need to post in it and leave it for I am also not posting in every other thread.

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dumb thread wait till the offseason. Also how many times is APOSTLE GOING TO COPY AND PASTE THE SAME POST.

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Hoop wrote:
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Let's hold off on future roster moves / free agent / draft talk until we end the season. It's easier to say that now with like 9 games left and the playoffs than it is with 45 games left and maybe no playoffs. Hold off until then, bookmark the page and bump it once we win or were out.

Dude, let us win the championship! but there is no automatic that the next roster will have the quality. Maybe an admin can change the perhaps to even...or leave out the championship.

Other than that there is no sense in this not beeing allowed to talk about a new roster in a thread, when the actual is set till the end of season and and even the end of season is so near.

I want to talk about and as it seems ... I am not the only one. So if you dont like it you dont need to post in it and leave it for I am also not posting in every other thread.

Roster next year for sure is going to consist of Blake, CP3, DJ, Bledsoe, Butler as our returning players. And unless Gomes and Mo get moved, both will be back next season. Making up the majority of the team we currently have, returning for next year.

Given the fact that we'll have more time in between games I'd put money on the fact we probably won't have a serious injury like we did to Billups, and general injuries themselves will all go down around the league.

Expect nearly the same team next year ( at least the starters ) and Ok/quality bench help like we have had this year, potentially a mix of the same guys.

We've got 1 pick in the up coming draft and it's a late 2nd rounder so that guy probably won't make the roster or he could be a foreign player we stash away. Thread ended.

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Dumb post, theres nothing more to say to that.

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I gotta agree that we definitely have a chance to win it all this year. Chauncey Billups was just on ESPN arguing with the other guys that the Clips will win it all this year.

If we go deep in the playoff most of our roster should stay. We just need to possibly address back up center and the log jam at the guard spots.

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CK, EJ and AFA have a new owner, Tom Benson, so contracts on Clippers Heads will be coming soon.

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I gotta agree that we definitely have a chance to win it all this year. Chauncey Billups was just on ESPN arguing with the other guys that the Clips will win it all this year. If we go deep in the playoff most of our roster should stay. We just need to possibly address back up center and the log jam at the guard spots.
I also agree that we have a chance of winning it all in a couple of weeks, but either way it goes, I am even not sure if the starting 5 will or should stay the....

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Hoop wrote:
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dumb thread wait till the offseason. ....

Dumb post, theres nothing more to say to that.

Actually, he's totally correct. How do we know WHAT we need to change until we've played at least one playoff series?

I've had too many years of looking to the future. This seems like a good time to enjoy the present. There'll be 5 months of offseason in which to have this discussion.

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Dont worry about it that THIS IS APOSTLE's LAST POST .

I'll root for the clippers while you guys continue to bash our players and knock everyone elses ideas .

GO CLIPPERS!!!

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cleepers wrote:
Hoop wrote:
GhostShip wrote:
dumb thread wait till the offseason. ....

Dumb post, theres nothing more to say to that.

Actually, he's totally correct. How do we know WHAT we need to change until we've played at least one playoff series?

I've had too many years of looking to the future. This seems like a good time to enjoy the present. There'll be 5 months of offseason in which to have this discussion.

Cleepers, its not about the ...wait til next season. It is about that before and if offense constitues a mighty right argument for you- lets say it mild - you live in your own world of correctness.

This thread is not for making you creating thoughts/ ideas about the roster, if you have none. If you dont know what youd like to change, you dont know BUT what hinders you in enjoying the present? I am enjoying the present and I am happy with looking into the future of the team, too.

So why dont you do it, with whatever your favorite is, too?

There is nothing wrong in having thoughts to the subject (as long as they are put in thought and not utopical), too.

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^ I have no idea what you're trying to say, hope.

Honestly... I tried to read it twice and, although I recognize the words, what their arrangement is trying to convey is a mystery to me.

Anyway, you go ahead and speculate on offseason moves... It's your right. Personally, it makes as much sense to me as discussing who we should draft in 2020.

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Funny as hell Cleepers. lol Really though, we are having one of the best years in our history and doing it with young stars. I don't think any other team's fans with a similar record are talking about firing the coach and player changes. It's these type of threads that make me realize how lousy our history is. Guys don't know what to talk about or do with themselves.

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^ agreed. suggesting we move EB for a draft pick like jeremy lamb. lol. hes a legit backup pg. i think if anyone gets moved is mo, depending on how we do in the playoffs and how far we get. and he mentions that we will have 10 million to sign josh smith? how? smith is not even a FA. the only way we get smith is via trade, which wont happen since hes atlanta's young star. but lets not get into what might happen. we have to focus on the present. like cleepers said, the fo will have 3-4 months to see what moves can be made.

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trade mo and gomes to bobcats 4 maggette and his ending contract.

he is a scorer and a could be a great 6th man, with young starting at the 2, with bledsoe and foye as a back up at 1 and 2.

let billups go, re-sign kmart, evans and possibly sign a 5.we will be set.

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There's a couple of problems going after Maggette 1) He represents the old Clippers (this is a new squad) 2) He's really old and injury prone (didn't he play Grant Hill and Laettner JK) 3) We'll be stuck listening to Mike Smith and Lawler talk about how great his body is (I'm not Homophobic, but its like listening to a conversation in a Greek bath house, "Timmy, do like Gladiator movies")

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^ Funny stuff!

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There's a reason why most teams and our team doesn't bring back former players. Sh1t didnt work out the first time so they are going a different direction.

Odom was a head case when he was here and would probably "welcome" the idea of playing for us if someone started a rumor, but guess what! he ruined his chance to continue to play here years ago. Maggette constantly clashed with Dunleavy because he didn't want to be a 6th man and Maggs thought he was the best scorer in the entire league.

Maggs makes way too much money and does nothing but score at a high cost to a teams defense and ability to win. Thanks but no thanks.

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If you're thinking championship this year you're thinking with your heart more than your head. There are just too many holes for the clippers one of the biggest one being coaching. I just don't see Vinny leading this team very far. This team is also not very big upfront or at the 2 position and that will hurt us in the playoffs. Offseason moves i would like to see are sign ray allen, delonte west, and marcus camby. Let foye walk, trade mo, and keep either reggie or martin.

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^id keep martin over reggie. idk how we would be able to get camby, since he was not very happy when he got traded from here. i doubt he would come back. ray would be great if billups doesnt resign but i think he will resign. delonte west is not a better player than foye. so idk how that would improve us. the only real plausible move is to trade mo for a legit 5 to back up DJ. the only issue we might have is that his contract is kind of big at 9 million per year.

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Thought the same MC contract is simply too big and I dont think hed be willing to sacrifice the most of his actual salary.

If the Pistons amnesty Greg Monroe or Dallas Haywood they might become interesting candidates.

Delonte does not give us size which we need especially and thus would be only interesting if we have to substitute someone small. If CB signs with us as it looks like there is no room for him.

Ray is always interesting even with CB signing because we have to give up no asset and get a quality big Sg. But with him its unclear if hell be on the market cause Doc is saying if he signs, hell sign with them.

Does anybody know till what date Mo has to decide if he will opt in by contract?

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Why noobies should not post ........nuff saidddd

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I have an idea !!! Let's trade VDN and Gomz for a real coach Next yr ( Larry brown )

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Why on God's green earth would Detroit amnesty Monroe?

He's their best asset.

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cleepers wrote:
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If the Pistons amnesty Greg Monroe or Dallas Haywood they might become interesting candidates.

Why on God's green earth would Detroit amnesty Monroe?

He's their best asset.

Smh Hoop, do you know who Greg Monroe is!?!?!? You amnesty ppl with bad contract... Monroe really??? Dude is 21 years old and averaging 15 points 10 rebounds and he is one of the most talented young center in the NBA. Lol, why would you even amnesty him when he is on his Rookie contract, makes no sense.

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i hope u are being sarcastic when suggesting larry brown. if you want to run cp3 out of town, then hire brown. hes a pg killer. his attitude wears thin on his point guards, and that included chauncey billups. @hoop, smh. haywood might get amnestied, but monroe, really???? did u just bring up a random name of a young stud who can ball and is the building block for the pistons? i know the pistons are struggling, but come on they wouldnt even make that move in a video game. thanks man, i needed the laugh.

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@Clipper_richard and bull: Yeah, you are both right. I just read about that hes eligible for the clause and wrote therefore as a suggestion, he might be an option, but looking at his contract it makes no sense at all.

I am glad that I was able to light up your day a bit, bull Smile.

In general beeing a best asset alone is no argument for me not giving it a thought, because if a player wants to leave e.g. like Josh Smith he might get available, if the right right constellation comes along. In most cases the drama with a player wanting to leave is non profitable for the club + on the players perfomance.

E.g.: Nobody of us here knew that we would get N.Young for Brian Cook (though under different circumstances).

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We should be patient and just wait till the Thunder amnesty Durant , I think he might be a good fit with this squad. That is only if he develops the right mindset, if not then we should go after Monroe or even Lamarcus Aldridge another amnesty candidate who's game would fit well with Blake Griffin.

Not sure if the Magic would amnesty Dwight Howard but if they do we should seriously consider getting him.

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If he didn't want to play there anymore, they would TRADE him, not AMNESTY him. In trade, they would get far more than we could or would ever offer them.

The only valuable piece we have for trade is Mo (if he opts in), and most of that value will come from his expiring contract. They're not going to give up a cheap stud center who they have locked up for another 3 years (WITH Bird rights) for an expensive shooter who will be gone in a year.

So you might want to learn a little more about how the trade market works before you start telling me I have "no argument". It's YOUR asinine suggestion that people are mocking, not my argument against it.

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Bingoooo wrote:
Hoop wrote:

If the Pistons amnesty Greg Monroe or Dallas Haywood they might become interesting candidates.

We should be patient and just wait till the Thunder amnesty Durant , I think he might be a good fit with this squad. That is only if he develops the right mindset, if not then we should go after Monroe or even Lamarcus Aldridge another amnesty candidate who's game would fit well with Blake Griffin.

Not sure if the Magic would amnesty Dwight Howard but if they do we should seriously consider getting him.

We might have to amnesty Blake and CP3 to make room for a couple of those guys.

Amnesty... amnesty... amnesty...

New words are fun!

Amnesty!

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cleepers wrote:
Bingoooo wrote:
Hoop wrote:

If the Pistons amnesty Greg Monroe or Dallas Haywood they might become interesting candidates.

We should be patient and just wait till the Thunder amnesty Durant , I think he might be a good fit with this squad. That is only if he develops the right mindset, if not then we should go after Monroe or even Lamarcus Aldridge another amnesty candidate who's game would fit well with Blake Griffin.

Not sure if the Magic would amnesty Dwight Howard but if they do we should seriously consider getting him.

We might have to amnesty Blake and CP3 to make room for a couple of those guys.

Amnesty... amnesty... amnesty...

New words are fun!

Amnesty!

lmfao people learn a new word and suddenly they think they know ball, or that they can use the word in any sentence and it suddenly enhances it lol

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I am sorry but why on earth would the Pistons amnesty Greg Monroe whose getting what, 16 and 10 in his 2nd year? Let's amnesty a great up and coming C and continue to stink.

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cleepers wrote:
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In general beeing a best asset alone is no argument for me not giving it a thought, because if a player wants to leave e.g. like Josh Smith he might get available, if the right right constellation comes along.

If he didn't want to play there anymore, they would TRADE him, not AMNESTY him. In trade, they would get far more than we could or would ever offer them.

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You should start READING and UNDERSTANDING which will help you LEARN that I did never write anything about amnestying Josh Smith, before you answer to a passage of my post made out of your head.

There is nothing more to say to the rest of yours for you did not understand the rest of mine anyways, so I wont even answer to that.

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lol what?

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Can we amnesty this thread?

It's worse than a Ryan Gomes inbound pass.

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cleepers wrote:
Bingoooo wrote:
Hoop wrote:

If the Pistons amnesty Greg Monroe or Dallas Haywood they might become interesting candidates.

We should be patient and just wait till the Thunder amnesty Durant , I think he might be a good fit with this squad. That is only if he develops the right mindset, if not then we should go after Monroe or even Lamarcus Aldridge another amnesty candidate who's game would fit well with Blake Griffin.

Not sure if the Magic would amnesty Dwight Howard but if they do we should seriously consider getting him.

We might have to amnesty Blake and CP3 to make room for a couple of those guys.

Amnesty... amnesty... amnesty...

New words are fun!

Amnesty!

No I think we should only amnesty Blake if were sure that the Magic are going to amnesty Dwight.Then both teams could amnesty them at the same time and exchange both amnestied players with lowered cap-space burden because of the ...wait for it .........................amnesty clause.

lol

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^ I totally amnesty. Couldn't have amnestied it better myself.

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