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LobCityTrick
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Obviously I respect magic for what's he's done for the sport. I actually love watching him on ESPN's pregame and halftime shows...until he gets to talking about the Lakers and Clippers. His unwavering bias towards the Lakers has gotten to the point where I wanna sock him. I get it, he's a former Laker, he's gonna stand for his team, but constantly TRYING to slyly bash the Clippers, or not giving them their props when they're way past due has gotten old. If any of you watch ESPN, which I'm sure you do, you know exactly what I"m talking about.

BenjaSands
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I dislike him for the reason you mentioned but also because he talks like this and it is a bad example to set to minorities everywhere that speaking like him is acceptable in the mainstream.

Example: (Made this up but to give you an idea )

"Well what The Lakers should have did sis the begginin was show dem boys n da bench how ta play. Naaw we owl know dey should have did dat trade for Cp but is ok Stern is ok!. Now da Clippaz, dey a good team, but they be lackin dat leadership of Chauncey Billups. What he would have did and been fa dem in the playoffs wudda been hushe!"

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Darkserpent
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Plz correct me if im wrong but that way ^^^ of talking is sorta normal in a big chunk of the country ( the south, midwest etc) ... I dont see anything incorrect with it, people in the U.S speak differently in different areas. Has anyone ever met someone from Boston or Chicago??.

LobCityTrick
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I just took dudes post as a racist troll, which is why I didn't even respond to it.

ekker3
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what do you expect from Mr. Laker?

but LA rivalry aside, ive got TONS of respect for magic both as a player and person. dude's done a lot of positive for this world.

LobCityTrick
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He does. I agree with you. I can't take anything away from him, I wouldn't even try to. But listening to him CONSTNATLY downplay the Clippers and talk up the Lakers, regardless of how good or bad either team is doing is old. At least TRY to be unbiased. Stop with the jabs at the Clippers, and if you are gonna take some shots at us, be a man and say it straight out. So tired of him trying to be coy about it.

lacsmoove
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Whatever. Maybe he is maybe he's not. But I love Majic. Period. I grew up in LA. You gotta love Majic. Even if you were a Celtics fan.

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LobCityTrick wrote:
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Plz correct me if im wrong but that way ^^^ of talking is sorta normal in a big chunk of the country ( the south, midwest etc) ... I dont see anything incorrect with it, people in the U.S speak differently in different areas. Has anyone ever met someone from Boston or Chicago??.

I just took dudes post as a racist troll, which is why I didn't even respond to it.

I hear ya.. COol.

BTW This is one negative draw back from having Magic own part of the Dodgers..it makes Laker fans feel like DOdger Stadium is their second home...Ill make sure to wear my Clippers gear to every Dodger game i attend this season Razz

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In the defense of Magic, at the beginning of the season, he had us higher than the Lakers. It's pretty safe to say that he's going with the obvious pick right now.

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I usually flip the channel when he is on regardless of whether he is talking about the Clippers or not. He emphasizes every damn word that comes out of his mouth and its annoying! He just sounds a bit too fake.

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who cares what he says. hes a flaker homer for the obvious reason that he was a flaker. all this hate people are giving us is out of fear. they know we are the better team. when we get the 3rd seed then they will cry, bitch and moan even more. lol. i also hate how people say "magic owns the dodgers" he doesnt. its the guggenheim group's financial backing that allowed that to happen. magic alone couldnt buy the dodgers. all magic is a minority stake owner.

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Im kool with magic. he and his team got the dodgers out of franks hands. you watched abc? They are partners w espn. everything lakers they love. anything clippers, its the other teams shortcommings. Im ok. they know we comming. they are afraid. let him talk us dow. heck michael cooper had done it. Lets just wait for the playoffs and for the clippers to PROVE EM WRONG

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Even tho Magic is with the enemy. but he's done alot for los angeles in the urban community. he's an excellent businessman. 24hrs fitness, movie theatres, burger king. tgi fridays, fatburgers & more i cant think of at the moment. He is involve with AEG to help bring NFL team to LA. do you prefer McCourt own LAD? This group couldnt get the LAD without Magic Johnson name. in the end, this is guy is dealing with HIV. When in reality he suppose to dead years agos. Great job E.M.J.! Maybe some remarks do us good. LAC players hear them & play even better. Smile

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Man, Cooper's laker homerism makes Magic sound like Mike Smith! Lisa Leslie pisses me off, too. Their post-game on channel 9 is abysmal, but I guess they're playing to their audience.

Speaking of which, in defense of BenjaSands, I've never taken anything he's written here as being racist. I think/hope his point is that Magic kind of hams up the country-boy talk to be quaint and maintain his popularity among his fans. But considering he's a billionaire businessman who's spent most of his life in a major coastal city, I'd have to agree.

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You know I feel the same way about him, Michael Thompson, John Ireland, Steve Mason, and all the ESPN guys. They do take a lot of personal jabs, but in reality who do we have to blame about that?

This season we started off hot, at times we were as high as the second best seed in the west, but Chauncey went down and we all know the rest of the story.

Still, despite that we have enough talent on this squad to be at the minimum the third best team in the west, and we should have beat the Lakers to take the rivalry, but we didn't.

Playoff appearance is a good development, but lets be honest we lost out on an opportunity to take the hearts and minds of los angelinos. We did nothing to show L.A. that we are out of the shadow of the Lakers, and by losing the series against them and trailing in the standings we deserve the ridicule.

I watched the last game against the Lakers and one thing was obvious. The lakers wanted that game, and the clippers didnt. For the first year in a very long time the Lakers were at risk of losing their hold on the city and the people within it. They played well and hit every shot you could think of.

In contrast, you would think that being the Chloe Kardashian (ugly sister for some of you folks who dont know who she is) of Los Angeles basketball would be enough motivation for our guys to go out there and beat that team. But it wasnt. Chris Paul has been eliminated from the playoff by the Lakers before, so has Kenyon Martin, and Blake had to watch the Lakers players bash him for his so called "flopping."

Our guys should have understood the importance of that game and the series in general, but they didnt go out there to win, and because of that we are back to being in the same predicament, being ridiculed.

The problem is that these players need to take it personally. they need to have that intensity and hunger to beat the Lakers. But instead we are content with ally oops and the lob city hip hop songs.

Thats the difference. The lakers players took it personally and used that jealousy and hatred to will them through a win, where was our fire?

So do I hate hearing Magic and all these guys talk trash, yes. But the blame is on our guys. Until they realize the importance of winning that rivalry and the importance of getting out of the shadow of the Lakers then maybe we will win and take the city. But until then we truly have done nothing to take off the "little brother" label off of ourselves

LobCityTrick
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In our defense we did play pretty hard during the April 4th game. We game back in the 4th and only lost by 5. To say we played like we didn't wanna win is kind of unfair.

Kind of in the same vein of this thread, why does First Take NEVER discuss the clippers? They'll discuss Lakers after every game they have. Yesterday it was "did the Spurs find a way to beat the Lakers in the playoff" after they beat them. Today it was "has Kobe learned anything from watching the team on the bench". And I swear they've discussed them almost every other day this week. Why not discuss the 13-2 run Clippers are on? Why not discuss us stepping up or offense or making it to the playoffs for the first time in 6 years? How much our team gets ignored, irritates the hell out of me. Lakers lose to the Spurs, they get a 15 minute debate, Clippers win against OKC, AGAIN, and not a single mention.

BringKamanBack
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HIV positive...

Evil or Very Mad eh that was terrible, my bad.

hoopfanjd31
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This. And besides, isn't Magic still a part owner of the Lakers? Considering that, and that he won 5 championships for the team, it would be pretty impossible for him not to be biased. I guess the trick is not to look as him as an "objective" NBA analyst. He pretty much can't be that.

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LobCityTrick wrote:
In our defense we did play pretty hard during the April 4th game. We game back in the 4th and only lost by 5. To say we played like we didn't wanna win is kind of unfair.
Ok, for the sake of argument lets say I was a little harsh on our guys. They didnt get blown out, but a loss is a loss. We lost 2/3 agains them and there are no moral victories in that, at least in my opnion.

LobCityTrick wrote:
]Kind of in the same vein of this thread, why does First Take NEVER discuss the clippers?

When we were sitting at the second seed I remember the ESPN crew talked non stop about the CLippers: This was the same 710 ESPN that is the Lakers home station, but as soon as we began that losing skid we lost that radio spot light.

Currently, the Lakers are ahead of usd in the standings and they have taken 2/3 games against us: they earned that spotlight and we have no one to blame but ourselves. Had we taken care of business against the lakers and maintained the 3rd seed we would be the ones talked about. Thats why I feel winning the rivalry and being ahead of them is of pinnacle importance: win more than them and beat them and you earn the crowd.

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BringKamanBack wrote:
ekker3 wrote:
what do you expect from Mr. Laker?

but LA rivalry aside, ive got TONS of respect for magic both as a player and person. dude's done a lot of positive for this world.

HIV positive...

Evil or Very Mad eh that was terrible, my bad.

Lmfao, well played

LobCityTrick
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C4, so you're saying that being on a 14-2 run, and being in the playoffs for the first time in 6 years holds zero merit because we lost to the Lakers and are below the Lakers in division standings?

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The way you're talking about the clippers you're acting like we've done nothing this season. Who cares if the Lakers are half a game ahead of us in standings, who cares if Lakers beat us in the season series, that has nothing to do with anything. We've been playing NASTY basketball since March 24th, and getting no love for it.

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My apologies. We have made the playoffs for only the 8th time in our history, so its a big deal to us. The problem is that we live in the same city with a team that wins championships on a yearly basis. Of course we have we've been playing great, but we get no love because our cross town rival is simply doing better, and has historically done so. Getting into the playoff is great for our franchise, but your surprise at the lack of coverage really shouldnt be expected.

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LobCityTrick wrote:
Darkserpent wrote:
Plz correct me if im wrong but that way ^^^ of talking is sorta normal in a big chunk of the country ( the south, midwest etc) ... I dont see anything incorrect with it, people in the U.S speak differently in different areas. Has anyone ever met someone from Boston or Chicago??.

I just took dudes post as a racist troll, which is why I didn't even respond to it.

Why is it racist? Cause I am calling out the way he talks?

Are you one of those over sensitive people who are afraid to voice your opinion on anything related to black people because you are afraid you are going to be called racist?

I have an opinion based on what I see on television, dont ignore it because some of us actually have the balls to point something out without fear of being called a "Racist" by someone like you.

And I have spoken to many people from the South, and other parts of the country, I live in the hood, and some people here sound eloquent compared to him. All I am saying is it amazes me everyone just accepts it cause he is a gazillionaire.

LobCityTrick
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lol, my mom is black, and dad is mexican, brosuf. I just refuse to give feedback on something that I think is racist. If you weren't being racist, coo'. But reading your post, you sure came off as it, it's whatever though. Really don't care either way.

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I think it was just a personal attack on magic, mot meant to be racist

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hoopfanjd31 wrote:
ekker3 wrote:
what do you expect from Mr. Laker?

but LA rivalry aside, ive got TONS of respect for magic both as a player and person. dude's done a lot of positive for this world.

This. And besides, isn't Magic still a part owner of the Lakers? Considering that, and that he won 5 championships for the team, it would be pretty impossible for him not to be biased. I guess the trick is not to look as him as an "objective" NBA analyst. He pretty much can't be that.

I remember the year we got the first pick in the draft and magic shook his head and said "lets see how they screw this one up" in a condescending manner . Magic can be a real prick

Worldbthree
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Magic has done many great things, but I grew tired of him long ago. When he came back from his time off because of his illness he called out another team (think it was Isiah Thomas not sure) for bumping an official, he went on and on about how it was wrong and touching an official is really bad. Then fast forward a game or two, he then does the same thing, doesn't apologize or say he was wrong for doing the same thing. Its the time he became Tragic Johnson. His hypocrisy since then has never stopped.

vanakin23
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Um, claiming incorrect english is a regional dialect is ridiculous. It's not regional, it's stupid. Just like emmitt smith and Barkley. It's like it's OK to use words incorrectly because others do it. Lame

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It's not racist. He's attacking one person's unprofessionalism when speaking on national tv. He is not speaking a dialect of English. He is speaking ungrammatical and incorrect English... ON NATIONAL TV!!

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Page, sure we're a game behind the Lakers in the conference and division and they've beaten us 2 out of 3 games, but that doesn't explain why Memphis are getting their grizzly arses kissed by everyone in basketball when they're 2 games behind us and were already a playoff team last year, before Rudy Gay came back.

We've lost a finals MVP to injury and we're still in the hunt for the 3rd best record in the West... no love. When we take out the Memphis darlings, they'll all be eating crow and I for one am going to enjoy every minute of these 'analysts' squirming and attempting to reposition themselves as Clipper-lovers. Something tells me that CP3 will be calling some f*ckers out over this.

vanakin23
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Yeah, you don't care because you don't make sense. He didn't come off as racist, unless you are dumb. Which you seem to be. People like you make this world worse, and it already sucked.

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This will get quoted on clublakers, lakersground or whatever purple-infested website there is.

LobCityTrick
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vanakin23 wrote:
LobCityTrick wrote:
lol, my mom is black, and dad is mexican, brosuf. I just refuse to give feedback on something that I think is racist. If you weren't being racist, coo'. But reading your post, you sure came off as it, it's whatever though. Really don't care either way.

Yeah, you don't care because you don't make sense. He didn't come off as racist, unless you are dumb. Which you seem to be. People like you make this world worse, and it already sucked.

No, I don't care because this thead isn't about racisim or how someone speaks. I make the world worse because I choose to ignore something I deem racist? Makes alot of sense. roll

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Not sure how you can blame Magic and all the rest of the so-called experts when you look at our infamous history. This stuff isn't going to end until we continue to win consistently and get to the finals and at least win 1.

1 or 2 good season won't do it and if you think it will, your just fooling yourself. Their all just waiting/hoping for us to get bumped in the 1st round so they can say....see it's just the Clippers.

Just ignore it and hope this is just the beginning of the new Clipper history.

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LobCityTrick wrote:
vanakin23 wrote:
LobCityTrick wrote:
lol, my mom is black, and dad is mexican, brosuf. I just refuse to give feedback on something that I think is racist. If you weren't being racist, coo'. But reading your post, you sure came off as it, it's whatever though. Really don't care either way.

Yeah, you don't care because you don't make sense. He didn't come off as racist, unless you are dumb. Which you seem to be. People like you make this world worse, and it already sucked.

No, I don't care because this thead isn't about racisim or how someone speaks. I make the world worse because I choose to ignore something I deem racist? Makes alot of sense. roll

No, it's because you are deeming something racist when it's not. And that is a problem, almost as bad as actually being racist. Calling someone racist is serious **** in this country, bro.

LobCityTrick
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STFU already, man. Okay, I called him racist, get over it and focus on the thread. It's a internet forum it's not that serious

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vanakin23 wrote:
Darkserpent wrote:
Plz correct me if im wrong but that way ^^^ of talking is sorta normal in a big chunk of the country ( the south, midwest etc) ... I dont see anything incorrect with it, people in the U.S speak differently in different areas. Has anyone ever met someone from Boston or Chicago??.

Um, claiming incorrect english is a regional dialect is ridiculous. It's not regional, it's stupid. Just like emmitt smith and Barkley. It's like it's OK to use words incorrectly because others do it. Lame

Well, to be fair we all have our own take or opinion on these matters.... I was just speaking from a point of view of someone who has traveled all over the country and has heard from people from other states that "we" in L.A or California talk funny or incorrect. So who is anyone to say that Magic speaks incorrectly, i think most of the country speaks "incorrect" english..we arent from England lol. anyhow, back to the thread..

Magic is a Laker homer, what do you expect? ..he's a Laker fo' life. BTW The Clippers have received a lot of press on ESPN and other networks this season which is AMAZING!! Who woulda thought that?....anyhow, they (ESPN ) like to cater to the big teams because they have more fans thus produce more ratings..all this current Kobe talk is all made up to spark conversations, there is no real news there.

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So your mad that an Ex-Laker who played his entire career as a Laker is favoring the Lakers? Get right outta town.

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