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Post subject: Al Thorton is our leading scorer next season with 24 PPG?
 Posted: Mar 20, 2008 - 01:30 AM PST
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| Only 24 points and 13 rebounds tonight. If he gets minutes, he gets points. Over 20 per game if he gets 30 minutes, every time. And he is only a rookie. So if Maggette is gone, and Brand comes back and becomes a 20 and 10 guy again, does that make Al Thorton the heir apparent to be our leading scorer. I think so. What about you? If not Al, then who? |
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Post subject: RE: Is Al Thorton our leading scorer next season?
Posted: Mar 20, 2008 - 01:33 AM PST
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| I would definitely say if Maggette leaves and Al takes over his starting position and continues to develop he should be getting 20+ every night |
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Post subject: RE: Is Al Thorton our leading scorer next season?
Posted: Mar 20, 2008 - 01:36 AM PST
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| I'd have to go with Brand. But if Al can improve his free throw shooting and shot selection he would have a solid chance. |
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Post subject: Re: RE: Is Al Thorton our leading scorer next season?
Posted: Mar 20, 2008 - 02:07 AM PST
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david wrote:
I'd have to go with Brand. But if Al can improve his free throw shooting and shot selection he would have a solid chance.
...agree. Brand is solidified while Thornton is still rough around the edges. Lets not mistake consistency with excitement just yet. |
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Post subject: Re: RE: Is Al Thorton our leading scorer next season?
Posted: Mar 20, 2008 - 02:36 AM PST
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clipper*joe wrote:
david wrote:
I'd have to go with Brand. But if Al can improve his free throw shooting and shot selection he would have a solid chance.
...agree. Brand is solidified while Thornton is still rough around the edges. Lets not mistake consistency with excitement just yet.
Yes true he is not completely consistent but he is getting there. In the month of February he was in double digits 13 out of 14 games. This month he's only 7 out of 11 but he's scored 18 and above those 7 times. So I'd say he's getting there. |
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Posted: Mar 20, 2008 - 02:54 AM PST
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| Hmmm... assuming Al takes over the starting 3 position and gets minutes, if he doesn't lead the team in scoring it won't be for lack of trying. Looks like if there's one thing Al WILL do, it's shoot. A lot. Dude definitely gets his shots. On the plus side, in addition to the normal "open" shots, a number of them are of the OMG athletic offensive rebound or slash to the cup variety, but so far there has unfortunately also been a healthy dose of drives into double coverage, and either contested or "too soon" threes thrown in as well. As Al's offensive game matures, if he's going to become an elite scorer in the league, David's observation about shot selection and clipper*joe's about consistency are a "next phase" for him as a potentially all-star type player. He's got the talent. His offensive repertoire is already more varied than most. Once he better learns how and when to use it the Clippers will have a very special player. |
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Posted: Mar 20, 2008 - 03:01 AM PST
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| You're right dwb Al's got big time talent, and he'll learn and be molded into a more efficient player. He's going to get to the line a lot, and I hope he can raise his FT % to over around 80% next season. Once the big guns are back he will be faced with fewer double teams which will make him even more dangerous. |
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Posted: Mar 20, 2008 - 03:09 AM PST
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| I'd have to go with EB. First I agree with the most astute observations about Al. Now they're benching Corey and letting Al loose as a 1st option. With EB there Al won't get all the touches. He'll still score well as will CK but Big Daddy will be the man. WHEN Al improves his FT's over the summer watch out. BTW if Corey goes who will be our back up SF? |
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Posted: Mar 20, 2008 - 11:50 AM PST
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| If Thornton starts at SF the possibilities for backup are wide open. One option obviously would be the draft, and with such a deep one this year, we could get lucky and snag a keeper even in the second round. We're talking about some pretty good players who should still be available. The really nice thing is that we'll be able to check out how some of the most likely choices do under pressure, as they'll be on display in the coming March Madness. I'm referring to Sam Young of Pitt, Earl Clark from Louisville, Davon Jefferson from USC and West Virginia's Joe Alexander. All excellent small forwards, but slated, at least for now, to be in the over 30 range draft-wise. We could go another way to fill the position, but if it's through the draft, the tournament gives us a nice opportunity to evaluate talent. |
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Posted: Mar 20, 2008 - 05:28 PM PST
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Brand and Thornton would probably average around the same (20 points per game).
Sam Young!! Alright!!! I'd be biased for drafting him, but I'm not sure what kind of NBA player he could be. Pitt just blew out Old Dominion in the tourneys (yeah!!!!) |
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Posted: Mar 20, 2008 - 11:36 PM PST
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Mmm, EB 20 ppg for next year
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Posted: Mar 21, 2008 - 02:46 AM PST
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laclippers wrote:
Mmm, EB 20 ppg for next year
I think Thornton will be around 13ish
...agree. Kaman & EB should get most of the touches. I believe in seniority.  |
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Posted: Mar 21, 2008 - 10:43 AM PST
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| I think you guys are all wrong. Before this season I said there will be no stopping Al Thorton. Next season, there will be no stopping Al Thorton. If he starts, he will be one of the top ten scorers in the NBA. Kaman and Brand will get there usual numbers. Thorton, if he plays 35 minutes, will average 24 points per game. Guys, lets hope I'm right. Al actually has a lot of Kobe in him. Determination..........stop me if you can.......I'm going to the hoop, better get out of my way..........Having other scoring options around him only makes his job easier. It's only a matter of time. Let's hope I'm right. Because Kaman and Brand will not be enough. |
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Posted: Mar 21, 2008 - 12:53 PM PST
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| I gotta go with JamFan on this one... Al starts and gets the minutes, if he doesn't average over twenty it will only be because he shoots less than 40 percent, so let's all hope that doesn't happen. 24? Hmmm... that might be a shade high, so let's see, if there's a "what will Al average" pool, put me down for say... 21. Yeah. I like that number. Throw in 7 boards too. JamFan is spot on about Al's "stop me if you can" attitude, and his trancendent athleticism will always get him shots. In fact, if Corey goes, and depending on who we bring in via the draft, trade or free agency, Al may well be the best on the team at getting his own shot. And he'll only get better as he gains experience! What we'll all be looking for is his improving his shot selection, but doubtless he'll still be putting 'em up. So I'm guessing 21ppg. Didn't Dunleavy himself say that Al had the talent to eventually be a 25ppg guy? |
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Posted: Mar 21, 2008 - 01:14 PM PST
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JamFan wrote:
I think you guys are all wrong. Before this season I said there will be no stopping Al Thorton. Next season, there will be no stopping Al Thorton. If he starts, he will be one of the top ten scorers in the NBA. Kaman and Brand will get there usual numbers. Thorton, if he plays 35 minutes, will average 24 points per game. Guys, lets hope I'm right. Al actually has a lot of Kobe in him. Determination..........stop me if you can.......I'm going to the hoop, better get out of my way..........Having other scoring options around him only makes his job easier. It's only a matter of time. Let's hope I'm right. Because Kaman and Brand will not be enough.
I agree Al is capable but you also have to remember that along with being Kobe like, it brings other qualities that have kept the Lakers from flourishing as a team. Look at Kobe now? Taking less shots and passing more has actually been a blessing for them. Look at Lakers now? They are a team that looks to pass and get everyone involved...Thats what I want.
Thornton is the real deal don't get me wrong but 24 pts is a lot of touches and the last thing I want is for a second year guy averaging more than our
2 top players...right now. Averaging 24 points is great and there is no doubt he can do that but we also have to look at how that has worked out for us with Maggette this year...right? They both can score at will on a good night but it doesn't equate to much wins. Al is scoring a lot mostly due in part for lack of offensive threats. That will change next season if we get all the pieces that we need. I see EB as our main scorer and go to guy with Thornton / maggette ( if he stays) / Kaman as a second threat depending on what team we play. I would also like to see our starting PG get in the mix as well. All elite teams have a scoring PG and I would like to see us get a real young veteran come here and run the show like Cassell did. I think that is the key to success. |
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Posted: Mar 21, 2008 - 02:19 PM PST
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| Yeah Kobe is making more passes, and its because he believes in who he's passing to. CREDIT PHIL JACKSON for the Lakers success. He saw the talent, got rid of those who werent gonna work in his system (Smush, Kwame), and found ways to utilize that talent. In consequence, the players around Kobe are on the same page and Kobe has confidence in passing to them and using them to get wins. He doesnt have to be the one launching up every shot he gets his hands on. You have to have a team willing to work with a superstar like Kobe, and you can see that happening with the other LA team this year. Dont be surprised if their success continues after this year. |
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Posted: Mar 21, 2008 - 03:15 PM PST
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| Let's face, Al Thornton is going to be a superstar in this league. IT just isn't going to happen in the next year. I give him three years to average 0 points per game. The Lakers owe it all to Phil Jackson Kobe started passing, and as much as I hate to admit it, they are a solid team this year. Knowing Dunleavy, Al Thornton WILL NOT start next season unless corey leaves, and they ahve no replacement, and quinton ross leaves too. Otherwise, Al would be the backup. |
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Posted: Mar 21, 2008 - 11:26 PM PST
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| Hey guys when I dream, I dream Big! |
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Posted: Mar 22, 2008 - 01:00 AM PST
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JamFan wrote:
Hey guys when I dream, I dream Big!
...can't hate on that. |
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Posted: Mar 24, 2008 - 06:22 PM PST
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noooooooooooo...
i dont like him...first...he scores 30 points.,.then 5 ...then-..20...
and he have 10 ppg...
he has games with 40 minutes and 5 points!!!! |
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Posted: Mar 24, 2008 - 07:41 PM PST
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tomo-cro wrote:
noooooooooooo...
i dont like him...first...he scores 30 points.,.then 5 ...then-..20...
and he have 10 ppg...
he has games with 40 minutes and 5 points!!!!
....just what a rookie is supposed to do. |
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