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BringMcadooBackado
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I was watching the Lakers game tonight and heard Marv Albert (at least, I think it was him) and Reggie Miller discussing the Lakers. They brought up how the Lakers tried to trade for CP3 and how different the outlook for the Lakers "could've been." There was the implication that the trade was taken away from the Lakers and that it wasn't their fault that they're "bad" this year.

It seems like I'm hearing this nightly from analysts on both Lakers and Clippers games.

Truth. The Lakers would be way better if they had CP3 instead of Pau Gasol. I have no doubt that, even with a crappy bench, they would still be easy favorites for the title.

But guess what? This didn't happen for a reason, and that reason has nothing to do with Dan Gilbert, Mark Cuban or some made-up grudge that David Stern has for all big-city teams.

David Stern, the acting owner of the New Orleans Hornets (at the time) vetoed the trade because his team was about to take on the overpriced contracts of Lamar Odom, Kevin Martin and Luis Scola. They would be a middling team that probably wouldn't make the playoffs, and would have to spend even more time losing over the next few years before they could rebuild and give their abused fans some hope.

Instead, they got a bunch of salary dumps, Eric Gordon (bust, agreed, but they played well when he was healthy, and they can retain him) and some really decent draft picks. They have a future now.

The financial flexibility allowed the NBA to sell the team without having to make Tom Benson take on a couple of old, overpaid players' contracts.

It's not David Stern's fault that this trade fell through. He's a savvy businessman who has been working for the NBA for longer than I can remember. If I saw that I was losing Chris Paul for Lamar Odom and Luis Scola, I'd veto that nonsense too.

This trade fell through because Mitch Kupchak tried to take advantage of Dell Demps, and almost succeeded.

Sorry for the rant. But I'm just so tired of the media belittling the Clippers because "CP3 was supposed to go to the Lakers."

No, he wasn't.

Clipperfn4lf
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*f*** the haters

clipperstown
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I can't explain this enough to laker fans, they just don't get it. Their trade sucked, ours was good. their trade would put the hornets in the worst possible position. not good enough for playoffs but not bad enough for a good draft pick. it gave them a bunch of 30 year olds with bad contracts. ours gave them expirings, young players, and draft picks. the team got sold because of that. our trade was better so that's why our trade was taken.

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Remember LAF fans are not bright. Low IQs. lol.Very Happy

Voyeur
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Didn't the commentators say that yesterday during the Clippers game too? Talked about how awesome it would have been if Paul was dishing to Kobe and Bynum.

I was thinking, so freakin' what? I didn't freakin' happen. Instead, he joined the Clippers and turned the franchise around. That's a hell of a lot better than being just another Laker!

ClipsGForce
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God Damn! Get over it Lakers! Its done and move on! Geez, why no one talks about how Lakers stole Pau Gasol from Memphis. Except its might be little more even now with Marc Gasol.

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idk about gordon being a bust. the clips package of kaman, aminu, gordon and the minny first was better than the flakers trade. now it is even better since the twolves are in the lottery. the hornets may have 2 top 5 picks. they basically will have cheap talent instead of overpriced talent. trust me, the hornets will be in the playoffs next year. the flakers are just mad cuz our team will be the better team for many years to come. f*** the haters. the biggest f*** you to the flakers will be when cp3 extends with the clips. i hope it happens soon.

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allbeast32 wrote:
clipperstown wrote:
I can't explain this enough to laker fans, they just don't get it. Their trade sucked, ours was good. their trade would put the hornets in the worst possible position. not good enough for playoffs but not bad enough for a good draft pick. it gave them a bunch of 30 year olds with bad contracts. ours gave them expirings, young players, and draft picks. the team got sold because of that. our trade was better so that's why our trade was taken.
Remember LAF fans are not bright. Low IQs. lol.Very Happy

I concur! They're the sheep that follow the herd.

slestack11
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I actually think the Lakers are better with Pau Gasol and Ramon Sessions than if they did that CP3 deal. CP3 is better off with the Clippers because he's assumed the role of closer for our team. With Kobe, they share that role which makes for an awkward situation. Much like Lebron and DWade, I think it is a waste of both their talents. As a fan of both the Lakers and Clippers, I'm glad CP3 ended up as a Clipper so he can pair with Blake Griffin who serves as a 100% compliment. I mean, nobody is going to mistake Blake Griffin as a 4th quarter closer at this point.

BringMcadooBackado
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I agree, Slestack, that CP3 is a better fit for the Clippers, but, I don't think that the Lakers are better with Pau.

He has been a shadow of his former self this year. Even if Kobe and CP3 split time bringing the ball up the court, they'd still be better off with the best point guard in the league.

Regardless, it wasn't to be, and I'm just saying that I wish the pundits would shut up about it already.

prokreation
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Agree with everything except Eric Gordon is NOT a bust. He was injured this year. He is a future all star.

But we got CP3!!!!!!!!

FightOnRon
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I think it all has to do with the fact that the Lakers are the Yankees of basketball and they always get whomever and whatever they want. They are just cry babies because they didnt get thier way for once and no one in America can believe the almighty Lakers got shafted,,in thier eyes.

Screw 'em

marten81
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Aminu seemed like a horrible player at the first half of the season, but in the end they played him lots, and he apears to be a great defender, if i saw it right.. Pretty sure they noticed there too as he got starter minutes/role the last 10 or so games..

So yeh they got a good deal and fakers cant complain about the owner of a team veto'ing a trade >.> Team got sold to a loyal owner.. who is really old though.. nobody dares to say it.. but yeh.. what if he dies... anyway they will resign gordon for 10 ish mil this year, as no one will pay him a lot more as injury prone as he is, and than hell score 24 per game next year and lead them to the playoffs with the 2 new rookies :p

xldicelx
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Just tired of hearing anything about the lakers and seeing lakers jerseys at clippers games (even when the lakers are not playing) you love the lakers good shut up abotu what could have been and taking your beating like a MAN.... the CP3 trade is a huge talk because the lakers did get what they wanted (spoiled brats) with 17 championships this is the attitude and class they show, Magic Johnson talking out of his a$$ all the time........... I loved magic until he became a "SPORTS ANAL-List" super annoying (excuse my language) but you can read about my frustration.... if lakers fans are reading this take this from my paragraph

"SHUT UP AND TAKING YOU BEATING LIKE A MAN."

smittywerb
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I think LAL fans keep talking about the trade because without that trade going down, their future looks grim. I mean think about it, when Kobe retires, the LAL will have only Bynum in his prime and an over-the-hill gasol. Now compare that to a prime Bynum and CP3, it is possible to build around those two and compete. I feel that when this trade was vetoed, LAL not only felt they have been cheated, but also lost hope for the future. If the LAL do not find a way to put more talent around Bynum or acquire youth, this team will be on the downfall after Kobe retires.

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Hahaha, I seem to remember when Laker fans were ready to talk about getting Kevin Durant as a replacement when Kobe retires.

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As I have said before,,we always play the,,"find the idiot in the Kobe Jersey" at our Clippers games. Last gmae though I saw a lot of Arest jerseys,,,that shows some class to wear a jersy with that thug -scumbags name upon it.

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Great observation, but I dont think Lakers fans would agree with you.

Grillinnap
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Laker fans should just get over it. It's about time THEY'RE the ones that get fu***d over.

Also, didn't they start saying how Ramon Sessions is a better fit than CP3? LOL. They also said that they don't want CP3 on their team because he's a flopper.

LotsoHope
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Guess what, you'll just have to get used to it. The vetoed CP3 trade will continue to be a topic in their minds for years to come. Didn't you know Laker fans live in the past? Why do you think they keep talking about their championships from the past decade and further?

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In the grand scheme of things yes, they have always been the benefactor of lop sided trades, and for once they didnt get what they wanted. They got a huge bit of magic and luck with the Pau Gasol trade, and many in the league viewed that as one of the biggest heists of the decade.

Still, perception is always different in the eyes of many, and I talk to many lakers fans and they still believe that the Gasol trade benefitted Memphis equally.

I for one think the CP3 trade was both good and bad for the Clippers. It was good because we got the best point guard in the league, and a definite franchise changer.

The bad news is that we risked our future for Paul, and if we dont win with him it may be a gamble that may prove to have been unwise. Time will tell.

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Exactly, a team that is losing their franchise player will best be helped by rebuilding. That entails getting expiring contracts, young talent, and draft picks..all which were part of the Clippers' package. Even Gordon being hurt may have been good news for the Hornets because if they manage to resign Gordon he will be paire with two high draft picks that can be instant franchise changers..something that may not have ben possible if he was healthy (their record would have been better and their order in the draft lower). I only hope Gordon stays and that franchise does better.

LotsoHope
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If you look at where Memphis is now, I'd say the Gasol trade eventually benefited them. The Lakers were able to squeeze 2 championships out of that trade though... can't really say Memphis is a championship caliber team but they're certainly better than where they would've been if they held onto Pau.

And for those whiny lil b*tches screaming bloody murder on the CP3 vetoed trade, if the Hornets produce a solid playoff team in 2-3 years, then we'd feel as justified over the league nixing the CP3 trade as Faker fans feel about how Memphis eventually benefited from the Pau trade.

Ultimately, I don't care if justification ever comes. Faker fans can put as many asterisks as they want on our team's success - end of the day, they're on their way to getting embarrassed by OKC and then scrapping the bottom of the barrel for the next several years, I'll be laughing at their team's demise, and I won't feel an ounce of remorse for how we got CP3.

realbull17
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when i lasted listened 25 mins ago. 710 ESPN radio was talking about the CP3 trade. they just can't let it go. Sad

ClipsGForce
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Let it go Lakers, CP3 is with us now. You can't change the past, just live with the future that you guys will suck!!

pageC4
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Pau was on his way out, but they could have gotten a better deal by trading with someone else. If you look at the pieces that Memphis got in return Kwame Brown, Crittenton, and the rest of the package the only thing they got of value was Marc Gasol. In all it was a swap Marc For PAu, and sorry but PAu is light years ahead of Marc.

Memphis' success has been due to Conley, Mayo, Gay, Randolph, and Marc Gasol. only one of those pieces was part of the Pau trade (Marc).

Memphis would have been better served by tradng with a team that could give them higher draft picks

Amnesty_David_Stern
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Lakers would have given up way too much to get Chris Paul and would be crippled. It'd be a 2 man team, Kobe & CP3. Sorry but you don't win rings with a PG & a SG.

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The problem is that people never think about how bad of a state NOH would've been with Odom, Scola and Kevin Martin. Imagine how Odom would've sulked! One shortened season later, they can resign budding superstar Gordon, have two high draft picks in a talented draft class, and have lots of cap flexibility. But nooo, everyone wants to point out what the Lakers "could've had" when ignoring the fact the NOH dodged a bullet and are in a much better shape to rebuild right now.

tense2
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CP3 trade is not only good for this organization which is a understatement IMO, but one of the best things to happen to the Clippers ever.

We've always played the future card with year after year lotto picks and where did that get this franchise...waiting again for the future.

We made a historical trade for a future HOF'r (still have to pinch myself sometimes)...the future is now and time has already spoken this year with the best winning % in the teams history.

The gamble has already paid off...and the best is yet to come.


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lacsmoove
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There's no gamble when you get the best PG in the league.

bullterrierclipsfan1349
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they would have still kept bynum. gotten financial flexibility that they dont have now. with the flexibility they could have added better players than mcroberts and troy murphy. imagine cp3+kobe+bynum plus someone off the bench like al harrington and jamal crawford (who they would have gotten with financial flexibility) and thats a pretty deep team. maybe they could have added carl landry with the money saved. look at this lineup

cp3 bench: al harrington, jamal crawford, barnes, blake,

kobe

artest

landry

bynum

thats a talented and deep team.

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bullterrierclipsfan1349 wrote:
Amnesty_David_Stern wrote:
Lakers would have given up way too much to get Chris Paul and would be crippled. It'd be a 2 man team, Kobe & CP3. Sorry but you don't win rings with a PG & a SG.

they would have still kept bynum. gotten financial flexibility that they dont have now. with the flexibility they could have added better players than mcroberts and troy murphy. imagine cp3+kobe+bynum plus someone off the bench like al harrington and jamal crawford (who they would have gotten with financial flexibility) and thats a pretty deep team. maybe they could have added carl landry with the money saved. look at this lineup

cp3 bench: al harrington, jamal crawford, barnes, blake,

kobe

artest

landry

bynum

thats a talented and deep team.

But it wont happen. Thank God!Very Happy lol

bullterrierclipsfan1349
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allbeast, i was explaining to ads that the flakers would have been a contender if cp3 had gone to them without having to give up a huge number of players lol. but u are right, thank goodness that didnt happen.

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This whole trade thing is stupid CP would never sign an extension. He and Kobe have monster egos and CP3 would never suck hind t*t. Remember Shaq and Kobe could have had a dynasty but Kobe had to have "His Team"

CP has the chance of winning a ring in 3 years here with the right additions.

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