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puddnhead83
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Vinny del Negro has earned another season to show he can make this team a championship team. With all the injuries that have happen he took this team to the second round of the playoffs so far and defeating a Grizzly team that was expected to go far in the playoffs. Last season Phil Jackson got sweep by the Mavericks.

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What kind of game plan does JVG have? Put 5 shooters on the court and beg the most dominate big man in the game to save you when you miss.. his scheme is to play outside-in. When it should be vise versa at a minimum.

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McMillian I agree with. Trading DJ I also agree with, but not BG. Everyone always says all he can do is dunk.. well if all he can do is dunk then there must be 31 stupid teams in the league. Why lay it up when you can dunk. Why shoot a jumper when you can dunk. You have to also remember he is only in his second year!!! How many two year big mean can you say were better (coming straight outta high school or 2 years or less of College in the last 15 years) I bet you cant name 10. Not Kevin Love he was 14ppg/11 rpg his second year; Kevin Garnett 17/8rpg; Aldridge 18/8 - BG 21/11. ANY MORE QUESTIONS?

Clippersfan86
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I got Mike D'Antoni.

Voyeur
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Yeah, and as I've said before, I live near Orlando. Despite some definite positives, I don't like DH's lack of effort. I don't like that he's not more aggressive. Sure, he's instant defense and rebounding...and that's huge...but he disappears all too often.

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Since we have two coaching threads (one got bumped) I'll post this here too. Little more detailed feedback on coaches.

Stan Van Gundy- Been to the finals, conference finals twice, semi finals twice and even in his worst seasons got to the playoffs and had great regular seasons. Remember he was only with the Heat 2 full seasons before resigning in beginning of 3rd and in those two seasons he made the semis and conference finals. Grade- B+. Coaching style: Motivator.

Jerry Sloan- Been to the finals twice, was considered the 2nd best coach in the NBA after Phil for a decade. His resume is too massive to list. Had the guy not had to meet with the Bulls dynasty at their peak he would have rings no doubt. All time win percentage of better than 60%, which is amazing. Grade- A-. Coaching style: Strategist. Fundamental.

Phil Jackson- 11 time NBA champion. Greatest coach in NBA history. Has said nobody has called but he wants back. He would consider the Clippers due to the controversy and challenge of leading the Clippers of all teams to the promise land. Question is will Sterling want him after he's bagged on him few times. Grade- A+. Coaching style: Motivator, Stategist.

Nate McMillan- Never had a deep playoff run and his success has been average. The reason people want him is due to FIT. He's a defense first, no nonsense coach that has no problem benching a lazy player. He's still a young coach but his structure may be what a team like the Clippers need. Grade- B-. Coaching style: Hustle, Defensive.

Mike D'Antoni- People seem to want to judge this man solely by his Knicks experiment gone wrong but he is a legend in the coaching game and was one of the best in the NBA for a handful of years. Guy has 4 titles in the time he coached in Italy. At the NBA level he was considered the top offensive coach in the NBA for multiple consecutive years according to the GM poll. People falsely argue than Mike D'Antoni teams don't play defense... yet the Knicks had a top 5 defense all year and the Suns of the decade were actually middle of the pack defensively or slightly better. The idea that D'Antoni teams literally CAN'T play defense is a completely false one. The Clippers defense this year was worse than the defense of the Suns teams.

4 straight 54+ win seasons (including a 62 and 61 win season) while running the best offense in NBA history. Two trips to conference finals, one trip to semis and 2 first round exits. Take away the Knicks experiment and he has a great coaching resume. Knicks are very talented but Mike was a terrible fit. Grade- B Coaching style: Strategist, offensive.

Paul Silas- His coaching history in comparison with these others is more sketchy but I feel that's due to circumstances for the most part. The guy has always been considered by peers to be a good coach. He coached the really nice Hornets teams from 99-03. He's known as a players coach just like Vinny but the difference is he has more of a game plan. Grade- C+ Coaching style: Players coach.

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This is the best post in here Ive seen. Nate.. hungry great choice.. Brian Shaw is a young understudy of arguably the best coach ever (Phil), Sam Cassell was really the head coach when he was with us last time he lead us to the playoffs. Patrick Ewing may be a stretch.

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I love Patrick Ewing. He was my favorite player of his time. Not sure if he'd make that great a coach. However, I'd love the idea of him coaching BG and the other big guys. Ewing wasn't the quickest player in the center position (Hakeem and Robinson were more so). Nor was he the strongest (that would certainly go to Shaq). But Ewing got to where he was from hard work, developing a reliable jumper, solid post moves with good foot work and just throwing it all out there on the court.

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Maybe it's not just Vinny. What about our assistant coaches?

Clippersfan86
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Assistants need to be right as well. As I said.. Mike D'Antoni+defensive guru as assistant (like McMillan maybe) and a great bigman coach would do wonders for us. Sloan+his team would do great as well.

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Maybe if the Lakers fire Mike Brown, we can bring him in as our defensive coach. He's great at defending the 3. But that depends on him willing to accept a smaller role.

Clippersfan86
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Nate McMillan interviewing in Charlotte.

http://tracking.si.com/2012/05/21/repor ... ching-job/

I DO NOT want a repeat of Clippers history where we are always a step late. Neil needs to be on phones with Sloan+PJ+Mike D'Antoni+McMillan RIGHT NOW. Make a final decision later but at least build a relationship and interview these guys.

Clippersfan86
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Stan Van Gundy fired! Adds another good coach to the crop.

Darkserpent
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Lol .... Sloan, would be awesome...but he is 70 and may be done..one can dream tough.....next logical step would be to hire a fresh face like Shaw or one of Popovich's assistants...or pry away Monty Williams from the Hornets, CP3 seems to really like him... *wasnt VDN a Popovich assistant?

HanselTop
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I'm actually a big fan of Stan Van Gundy. I'd like to see that now that he's available

hoopfanjd31
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I don't think VDN was. He played for Pop, but I don't think he ever coached under him.

Clippersfan86
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Stan would be a great fit in terms of his actual coaching. His abrasiveness though would be a problem if our young guys don't toughen up. Sloan is a hardass but he won't make fun of you or rip you in the media like SVG will.

Darkserpent
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SVG is a real good coach.. seeing what he did w/o Howard vs Indiana showed that....but i just dont his occasinal meltdowns.... The Bulls got a gem in T.T, we need to look for a gem of our own..

hoopfanjd31
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I'm with you. I'd like the team to give a thorough look at assistants from other good teams. For pretty much the entire time I've been following the team, they've filled coaching vacancies with relatively well-know, but retread guys (Bob Weiss, Bill Fitch, Dun, the list goes on). The time has come to go in a different direction. . . .unless Phil Jackson decided to come out of retirement for us and DTS decides to meet his $12 million/per asking price.

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No Van Gundy!

He likes to blame players for his shortcomings. He's bad news.

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hoopfanjd31 wrote:
Darkserpent wrote:
Lol .... Sloan, would be awesome...but he is 70 and may be done..one can dream tough.....next logical step would be to hire a fresh face like Shaw or one of Popovich's assistants...or pry away Monty Williams from the Hornets, CP3 seems to really like him... *wasnt VDN a Popovich assistant?

I don't think VDN was. He played for Pop, but I don't think he ever coached under him.

He didn't. VDN got his Bulls job without any experience.

clippermitch
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Stan or Jeff Van Gundy would be awesome!

Clippersfan86
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I asked a diehard Magic fan for their opinion of how Stan would fit with the Clippers.

"I don't ever think the Magic got see the whole side of Van Gundy. The way Otis built this team is with shooters and not many players that can penetrate and kick out. I think sometimes he makes really bad decisions with his rotations. But he's also a no-nonsense coach which is why he and Dwight clashed a little bit.

I think the Clippers will make huge strides offensively and defensively if they were to pick him up. I mean, we defended Indiana pretty well with 6'9 Glen Davis as the center. I think Stan could make Deandre an elite defensive player tbh. It depends on if Blake CP3's attitudes to tell the truth, but I definitely KNOW they will respect him more as a coach then they do Vinny."

So basically some more bad rotations BUT much better coaching is what this guy is saying. No nonsense coach is exactly what the undisciplined Clippers need.

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co-sign

whoever says yes first Ya winkles

LotsoHope
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I'll take any of the available coaches in the market right now over Vinny. Sloan, McMillan, and D'Antoni are on the top of my list.

Better to find a coach first and then start addressing roster changes in the off-season, that way you have the new coach's input on acquisitions. With all the free agents we'll be having, there's a lot of roster changes possible this summer.

ekker3
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No coaches with three-letter abbreviations.

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I'm starting to warm up to the idea because this team needs discipline... however, I'm a little bothered that he was voted as the coach that NBA players least want to play for. (Got 21% of vote, followed by Scott Skiles, Byron Scott, & Flip Saunders).

I think CP3 and BG would be fine, but does DJ have the mental fortitude and maturity to take the criticisms of SVG, and turn into a real defensive presence?

Anyways, SVG is a good coach who I think was a little hamstrung in ORL, having a roster with one dominant big man and a ton of shooters. On the Clips team, I'd be excited in what he could do w/ CP3 and BG, and other solid pieces.

germommah
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McMillan McMillan McMillan. NO brainer.

The assistant defensive coach worked under him prior to the Clippers. He would fit in. He has a good history with Reggie Evans... He did great things in Portland. Not his fault all the stars got injured.

ekker3
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McMillan works best with solid scorers at the 2 or 3 and relies on natural defenders. We have neither.

Head coaches pick their own asst coaches anyways.

hoopfanjd31
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Does MDSr count in that category?

Turtle
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it will be Phil Jackson, Jerry Sloan or Monty Williams.

In that order.

Good bye vinny.

BoomRizzle
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SVG is easily a top 3 coach in the league. We'd be crazy to not try to get him here. The only downside is how his brash nature would work with sterling. I would like to assume it would go better with CP and BG than it did with Dwight because our two guys seem like such more serious competitors than Howard.

BoomRizzle
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so since we're making a wish list...

Phil Jackson >> Stan Van Gundy >>>> Jerry Sloan >>>>>>>> Nate McMullin > Monty Williams

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svg for the win!

jarca
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wait wait svg got fired right? that means, he's gonna come cheap. with that said, i think he'll be our next coach

gman
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coach k!.

cleepers
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Mike Clown will be available.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAA!!!

jarca
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if you ask fans around the league about their team's coach, they'll most likely point out the bad rotations. just like yr, spurs fans hated popavich's rotation.

Clippers_FTW
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Phil.. or no deal

smittywerb
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  1. Sloan

  2. Phil

  3. McMillan

  4. SVG

No reason why we should not grab one of these guys. We need to break the bank on a coach if we plan on going further than this year.

tense2
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Than it's a 95% probability that it's a no deal.

LobCityTrick
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With SVG officially gone from Orlando, I hope we're smart enough to snatch him up. I been saying since earlier this season when there were rumors he was gonna be fired, he would be such a good fit for our team. PLEASSSSEEE make this happen

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Exactly. SVG wouldn't allow lazy playing or excuses. He would MAKE the squad play, and if you didn't, have fun sitting on the bench the rest of the game. He might take the loss, but bet you're gonna step it up and play for him next game. It would be a shock to teams system after having a babysitter coach like VDN, but damn, he would turn our team into something serious.

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We need a coach who will be able to build a team that can win without Chris Paul or Blake Griffin. Somebody who knows how to make the very best out of the cards that he's dealt no matter how bad it may seem.

The first person that comes to mind is Nate McMillan. He's a no nonsense, defense minded, coach with a fiery personality that I think would work well with CP3's competitive spirit. He's dealt with devastating injuries in the past and still led his teams to the playoffs. At the age of 47, he has 12 years of Head Coaching experience under his belt, while still being a young enough coach that he'd be able to grow with the team.

I'd take him over just about any coach available aside from Jerry Sloan. I might even take him over Sloan just because you don't know how long Sloan would be willing to stick around. At least with Nate, you know he has the youth to stick around for a while.

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I noticed SVG gave the Clippers a lot of credit when we beat Orlando on the road. He actually pointed out good D by Blake, in fact. I don't know if Pat Ewing is going to be a head coach next season, but he doesn't go that route, it would be great to see SVG come here with Ewing to mentor our bigs.

Clippersfan86
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Jerry Sloan today. Wants to get back this year.

"If somebody calls me, I will listen.''

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Conference call w/ Olshey & CP3, now! Very Happy

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LobCityTrick wrote:
Clippersfan86 wrote:
No nonsense coach is exactly what the undisciplined Clippers need.

Exactly. SVG wouldn't allow lazy playing or excuses. He would MAKE the squad play, and if you didn't, have fun sitting on the bench the rest of the game. He might take the loss, but bet you're gonna step it up and play for him next game. It would be a shock to teams system after having a babysitter coach like VDN, but damn, he would turn our team into something serious.

Yeah, I thought VDN did too much babying. The result is players like KMart & DJ not respecting him at times. I could see CP3 and BG buying into SVG's system, and the rest of the guys following suit. Also, SVG really knows how to utilize his guys' talents and turn them into quality role players. They put up a decent fight against Indy w/o their superstar.

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ohMEohMy! wrote:
Clippersfan86 wrote:
Jerry Sloan today. Wants to get back this year.

"If somebody calls me, I will listen.''

Conference call w/ Olshey & CP3, now! Very Happy

& Blake:)

we gotta make this happen asap!!!

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MIKE BUDENHOLZER!!!!!!!!!!

This dude has been Gregg Popovich's right-hand man for almost two decades, and he's in his early 40s. His entire life has been spent soaking up knowledge and good wine from Pop!

or

Sam I Am Cassell,,, probably not but he'll be hilirious one... lol

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