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Post subject: Sign & trade: Corey Maggette for Kirk Hinrich?
 Posted: Mar 31, 2008 - 02:40 PM PST
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...Just read this article about The Bulls wanting to trade someone from the front court due to overcrowding. The best value they have is Kirk. I can see and sign and trade happening with Maggette on this since they need some front court help and we need a point. What say you?
Here is some info.:
Bulls' poor season means Paxson will be dealing
http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/ba ... 6259.story
Kirk Hinrich
Salary status: Four years, $36.5 million remaining
2007-08 strengths: Improved his on-court leadership skills.
2007-08 weaknesses: Regressed at defensive end, where he seemed to lose a step after making second-team All-Defense last season. Shooting percentage dipped to his career mark of 41 percent.
Crystal ball outlook: Despite his substandard season, Hinrich still has value. Bulls will move him as part of larger package to settle point-guard position.
I think he could be a great asset for us. His shooting has been off this year but considering the distractions this season, I give him a pass. I like this scenario. The price is not bad if you consider his yearly salary. |
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Post subject: RE: Sign & trade: Corey Maggette for Kirk Hinrich?
Posted: Mar 31, 2008 - 03:16 PM PST
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"they want to trade someone from the front court due to overcrowding" meaning they want to get RID of forwards, right?
They have too many players who play similar role to corey, including Deng, Nocioni, Sebolosha, Hughes, and even Thomas to an extent......i highly doubt they would want maggette, despite him being a chi-town guy |
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Post subject: Re: RE: Sign & trade: Corey Maggette for Kirk Hinri
Posted: Mar 31, 2008 - 03:30 PM PST
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clipnasty wrote:
"they want to trade someone from the front court due to overcrowding" meaning they want to get RID of forwards, right?
They have too many players who play similar role to corey, including Deng, Nocioni, Sebolosha, Hughes, and even Thomas to an extent......i highly doubt they would want maggette, despite him being a chi-town guy
I meant backcourt. They have too many guards since the addition of Larry Hughes. They lack a good front court. Thanks for pointing that out. By the way, Deng is a perimeter shooter who can't drive as well as he shoots. Maggette can fill that spot. The bulls have too many perimeter players and not enough inside presence. Maggette can fill a lot of holes they have. Kirk is also what we need. A good shooter, leader and veteran. |
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Post subject: RE: Sign & trade: Corey Maggette for Kirk Hinri
Posted: Mar 31, 2008 - 03:33 PM PST
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What I see is that we need a PG as the water we drink...We cannot start the season neither with Livi nor Knight. We need something better. Mainly one player who could hit from the outside.
Hinrich would be OK: he's "veteran", can dish the ball, is a good defender, and can hit 3's... so he has my vote if we can't find something else better
Getting a PG in the draft who could play as starter next year is difficult. Often the PGs need some time before they play in NBA at their real level. There are only 2 PG's in the top ten of the next draft: Rose and Westbrook. (Bayless has decided to remain in the university). Rose will be chosen before we could pick so it seems the only real option would be Westbrook who plays in UCLA and I supose that playing in LA, more than person in the forum has seen him playing. So...What's your opinion about Westbrook? |
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Post subject: RE: Sign & trade: Corey Maggette for Kirk H
Posted: Mar 31, 2008 - 03:44 PM PST
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| miguel, do you mean collinson? |
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Post subject: RE: Sign & trade: Corey Maggette for Ki
Posted: Mar 31, 2008 - 05:43 PM PST
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| Westbrook is quicker than Collison, but Collison is very crafty and intelligent. I like his style of play. I'd love to get a PG who can shoot it, but if we can find a SG who can shoot well, I think Collison could really run this offense. He plays defense and rarely turns it over at the college level. Can that translate to the NBA? I hope so. Only thing is I think Collison will get drafted below our projected spot. No higher than the middle of the draft I think. He may even be around in the 2nd round. Westbrook I dont know as much about. I know he filled in nicely for Collison when he was hurt, but I'm thinking he's got better offensive skills but reduced PG skills. Correct me if I'm wrong though, I've only seen him play a few times. |
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Post subject: RE: Sign & trade: Corey Maggette fo
Posted: Apr 01, 2008 - 12:01 AM PST
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| what about dj augustine? he's a top point... i think we need a good slasher and shooter like s ginobli... what i hear about the Ganillo or however you spell it from italy is great... i read his interview on DraftExpress.com... sounds like he has good work ethic and wants to strive to improve himself... thats what we need... we should also try and sign navarro and let him run the point along with livingston... i know they are two euro aquisitions, but they would help our team imensely i think... i see OJ Mayo not distributing and just flat out would be a bust for the clippers... he'd fit in with other teams but i don't think he has the patience to be on the clips... our offense is a bit slower, and more team ball, not like have one guy shoot 20+ shots a night... OJ needs the ball and i rhink would hinder all the other players on our team... go with these two euros and bring the big dude from greece over... and some more players that can hit the long ball... sign Q to a multi year contract... not a lot of money but like a 3 year contract... and make sure we give M. Williams a shot the rest of the year to see what he's got.... and GET RID of SMUSH.... i HATE him!... he takes the worst shots... makes poor decisions.... and rarely does he hit the shots he takes.... get rid of him! |
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Post subject: RE: Sign & trade: Corey Maggett
Posted: Apr 01, 2008 - 01:27 AM PST
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^^He's a good floor general but after watching how he got completely outplayed by Derek Rose I just don't know. Maybe a 2nd rounder because he just not tall enough and he's not a good enough shooter.
As for Smush- I agree that he needs to shoot less- I don't mind if he shoots open shots but not some of those contested silly ones he puts up pretty often. And sometimes he just makes lazy passes. But he does show flashes of very good play.
Going back to the main subject- I'm not sure if I'd do that trade- yet. Let's see who we get in the draft first. But a straight up Maggette for Hindrich is not a fair trade for the Clippers IMHO. |
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Post subject: RE: Sign & trade: Corey Mag
Posted: Apr 01, 2008 - 01:57 AM PST
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Great points RussDaddy. Repped.
Also, in dealing with a sign-and-trade...it would be great to use Corey in a S-A-T to move up and pick Derrick Rose. I think both Miami & Seattle have their SF situation settled (provided Marion stays with the Heat), so i doubt either of them would make a trade like that. Who's left: Memphis, Minnesota...both of them might be interested, but if you get lucky and get the #1 pick, wouldnt you keep it?? I would think so, but who knows. It will be interesting and we'll all be crossing our fingers for the balls to bounce our way. As far as trading for Hinrich, I dont see how that solves our problems. We need youth at the guard positions. We already have Knight and Mobley. |
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Post subject: Re: RE: Sign & trade: Corey
Posted: Apr 01, 2008 - 11:46 AM PST
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jlemmen43 wrote:
Great points RussDaddy. Repped.
Also, in dealing with a sign-and-trade...it would be great to use Corey in a S-A-T to move up and pick Derrick Rose. I think both Miami & Seattle have their SF situation settled (provided Marion stays with the Heat), so i doubt either of them would make a trade like that. Who's left: Memphis, Minnesota...both of them might be interested, but if you get lucky and get the #1 pick, wouldnt you keep it?? I would think so, but who knows. It will be interesting and we'll all be crossing our fingers for the balls to bounce our way. As far as trading for Hinrich, I dont see how that solves our problems. We need youth at the guard positions. We already have Knight and Mobley.
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I dont see how that solves our problems. We need youth at the guard positions. We already have Knight and Mobley.
it solves the problem in 2 ways. One, we need a PG that can make an impact right from the start. Derrick Rose will be gone before we bat a eye so he is out. What other PG is out there other then Rose that can make an impact right from the start in the top 10? We need leadership at that position not a young draft pick to run the team. You can take a combo guard in the draft or take a big for either Kaman or Brand to help out.
Two, with the core we have now (young group already- CK, EB, AT) we need leadership more than we need youth. We are a young and ripe team now ready to make a move. Kirk is a young veteran that can move the ball and shoot...isn't that our biggest problem?
Best way to explain it? Cassell , Cassell, Cassell. He was a little too old but what a difference his leadership made when it counted. A rookie PG ain't gonna give you that especially considering where we might place in the draft. Derrick Rose is the only true point out there in the top 10 and he will not be around. I don't want to wait another few years before a PG pick ripens. if you don't have leadership at that position, we are back where we started. You can't catch a bolt of lightening in a bottle twice. Al Thornton was ours and the NBA gods will not allow it. Chances are we will get a great player in the top 10 that will mature with time. |
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Post subject: Re: RE: Sign & trade: Corey Maggette for Ki
Posted: Apr 01, 2008 - 12:29 PM PST
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clipnasty wrote:
miguel, do you mean collinson?
Men. I just checked nbadraft.net and they put Westbrook over Collison so this is why only asked about the first one.
Anyways I see reading your comments that you don't like neither of whom so maybe getting a PG via trade is the right option |
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Post subject: RE: Re: RE: Sign & trade: Corey Maggett
Posted: Apr 01, 2008 - 07:45 PM PST
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| No way, Hinrich is kind of inconsistent, and is so incomparable to Corey Maggette. |
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