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AustinLakePirate
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Here's my first post here. I've been trolling around on your site for the last week.

First off I gotta say I have a lot of respect for you Clipper fans. You guys are a gritty hardcore bunch. Anyone who Lives in LA and isn't a Laker fan is okay in my book. Spurs fans have no love for the Lakers. The Lakers were a brick wall between us and the Finals for I can't remember how many years.

It's a great time to be a Spurs fan it's true, but it took a long time to get here. I've been a Spurs fan since 1984. Back then the Spurs sucked. We lost to everyone. My dad took me to the games to see Bird, Magic,Jordan and all the greats of the time. We didn't have any expectation of winning. It was all about the love of the game. I think Clippers fans can relate to this.

As a lower tier small market team San Antonio didn't have muchleverage. To compete on the championship level it took a lot of hard work and luck.

A smart front office got us David Robinson. Holt put Popovich in charge in 94 . We got lucky and scored Tim Duncan in the '97 draft add an excellent supporting cast and the rest is history. In 1999 we won our first NBA championship.

I'm not trying to give a history lesson. I think that the Clippers now are very much like the Spurs from 1995-1997. You have a great core,

but the Clippers are not a complete team yet. Paul is awesome and Griffin has a bright future, Bledsoe looks like a great aquisition, DJ is tough on D, you've got a lot to build on, but it takes time to find the right personnel combination and team chemistry to become a truly great team.

I see alot of you dogging on Vinny Del Negro for bad coaching but I have to come to his defense. If you think that this Clipper team is ready for a title run you're delusional. Even if the Clippers were 100% healthy No coach in the league could make that happen. The Clippers just don't have the organizational depth and talent.... Yet

I remember back in the early parts of Popovich's career. Half of San Antonio was calling for his resignation But team owner Peter Holt stood by him and allowed him to build his organizaion. Turns out half of San Antonio was wrong. There's 4 championship banners hanging from the rafters of the AT&T center to prove it.

Vinny Del Negro was a Spur when Pop took over. A great hard nosed player. He knows exactly what it takes to get a program going in the right direction. This was a very impressive regular season for the Clippers and I think VDN did did a pretty solid job against The Grizzlies. It's not VDNs fault the Clippers had to play the best Spurs team in franchise history in round 2. I'd give him time to build the team.

If I was a Clipper fan I would be very proud of my teams accomplishments this year. And very hopeful about the bright future that lays ahead. You have years to build on your strengths and address your weaknesses. You're only about a year away from being the best team in Los Angeles. Be patient. You're building a championship caliber team.

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Good luck the rest of the way. Not like you need it. wink

Yeah, I'll be rooting for you guys the rest of the way.

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Thanks AustinLakePirate for your kind words! I've been extremely impressed by the intelligence and demeanor of the Spurs fans who have signed up and posted here. Very classy (unlike those Memphis fans). Good luck the rest of the playoffs- your team is the epitome of team basketball. Just an amazing top job by the front office, the coaching staff, and the players. WOW.

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I didn't read. Maybe I will eventually. But thanks.

Griffinforpresident
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Thanks for the props for our team.

However, I would not give Del Negro another chance to coach this team. If we were a rebuilding team, then maybe. The moment we acquired Paul expectations were high. Plus, the Clippers owe it to Paul and Griffin to have the best services the organization could offer. Del Negro does deserve to be a coach but not for this team.

Best of luck against the Thunder.

NaTeDaGrEaT310
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Thanks for this post read it and it made me feel better and hopeful for this team the spurs are just really dominant right now and i can't wait to see the spurs vs okc series that is gonna be something to look forward too! I just wish people thought like you did im not gonna lie VDN isn't the best coach but you can't just expect him to be amazing when he is fairly new to coaching he needs time to learn and grow just like the clippers do i would be okay to give him another shot of running the team and I guarantee if Chauncey never got injured this series would be much different

AustinLakePirate
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Thanks, Thunder Spurs will be a tough series.

The Clippers definitely need a strong leader. Del Negro may not be that guy but at some point you have to put your faith in a head coach and give them a few years to build a team.

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Thanks Austin. Much respect to you and your team... they're definitely playing championship ball. Good luck for the rest of your run.

AustinLakePirate
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No doubt his experience would have had a major impact. It's frustrating as a fan when your team is banged up and you're missing a key players like Billups.

But as the Spurs have proven - No one man makes a team. We can sit our best 3 players and still beat most teams in the league with guys you've never heard of. That's organizational depth

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AustinLakePirate wrote:
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Thanks for the props for our team.

However, I would not give Del Negro another chance to coach this team. If we were a rebuilding team, then maybe. The moment we acquired Paul expectations were high. Plus, the Clippers owe it to Paul and Griffin to have the best services the organization could offer. Del Negro does deserve to be a coach but not for this team.

Best of luck against the Thunder.

Thanks, Thunder Spurs will be a tough series.

The Clippers definitely need a strong leader. Del Negro may not be that guy but at some point you have to put your faith in a head coach and give them a few years to build a team.

I see what you're saying, and I personally have flip-flopped on Vinny all year. He got the team playing great ball for long stretches this season, but he also struggled mightily with a bunch of things--substitution patterns, managing minutes, or running a simple play(or any kind of an offense).

I think he's a decent coach, and if there aren't any other coaches who want to come here, it wouldn't be so terrible to keep him. But watching the way the Clippers fell apart in the last couple minutes, unable to run any semblance of an offense and running the most horrid plays out of timeouts, I'm really not so sure how much faith we can put into this guy. It's amazing the Clippers were as good as they were, considering they had no offensive OR defensive gameplan. Maybe Vinny just needs a full offseason with the team, I don't know. But there's a reason a lot of fans don't want to believe in him.

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AustinLakePirate wrote:
NaTeDaGrEaT310 wrote:
I guarantee if Chauncey never got injured this series would be much different

No doubt his experience would have had a major impact. It's frustrating as a fan when your team is banged up and you're missing a key players like Billups.

But as the Spurs have proven - No one man makes a team. We can sit our best 3 players and still beat most teams in the league with guys you've never heard of. That's organizational depth

Agreed. Chauncey would have probably helped win us a game or two(*cough*tonight*cough*) but that's it. Ultimately the Spurs are the better team.

ClipsGForce
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Thanks for the respect bro.

I think we just need a new coach that actually have a plays and COUNTERS if plan A, B, and C doesn't work. Also an efficient system that keep the players movement instead of settling around three point line. But overall, its still looking good.

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Appreciate the respect, Austin. The Spurs have looked like the team to beat this year. They play a brand of team basketball that is far and away at the top of the league. Here's hoping the Clippers can use this series against the Spurs as a template for becoming a better team, themselves. Best of luck on your championship run!

Clippersfan86
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Thanks for the kind words. I think the general sentiment around here is that if there is one team we are "okay" with losing to it's the Spurs. The organization and players from top to bottom are pure class. Duncan after the game grabbing the depressed Griffin and giving him words of encouragement says it all. The better team won PERIOD. Pop is putting on a coaching display for the ages and quite frankly made Vinny look like a straight up chimp. I'll be hoping for the Spurs to close out the year with the 2012 NBA championship. Please beat the snot out of the arrogant, douchy Thunder.

AustinLakePirate
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I don't know. At the timeout with 10 second left it looked like Vinny was drawing up a play. Paul gets the ball has open guys but he decides to dribble into triple coverage to take a garbage shot and lose the game. The coach can only draw up a play he can't make his players execute it.

Clippers aren't really playing as a team. They don't trust each other.

AustinLakePirate
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Thanks. Spurs fans have been humbled more often that we've won. The Playoffs are finicky. Most spurs fans have a lot of respect for the game.

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well austin, thanks for the words of encouragement. i know i will root for u guys now that we are out of the playoffs. i know the finals will be spurs vs celtics. good luck the rest of the way.

ekker3
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Respect.

Go Spurs Go!

yimful
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I really have a lot of respect for the Spurs. They are so intelligent and always seem to keep their composure. Even though I love my Clippers, it was obvious that the Clippers seemed to get carried away at times while the Spurs were mature and kept going with their game plan. Also, I loved how Tony Parker talked about after the game how he does not care about being the top 5 point guard in the league and all he cares about is doing what his coach wants him to do... that shows me a lot about his character. Also, you guys always seem to bring the right players in.. I've never even heard of splitter, leonard, green, and neal before they came into the league..

clippermitch
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Spurs are an excellent organization and are very well coached. You guys handled us well.

However, I lost respect for Popovich this series. Fouling Reggie in the first quarter? Seriously? Hack a Reggie when you're up 12 in the 4th quarter of game 3?

You can say it's great coaching and strategy but I say it's cowardly and it diminishes the game! I hated this when Dunleavy did it and I hate it even more now. Spurs are too good to resort to this ploy.

For this reason and the fact that Westbrook is a Bruin, that I'm rooting for OKC!

AustinLakePirate
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Awwww , Sorry Pop hurt your feelings. The Spurs came to L.A. to win not to make friends. They will exploit any weaknesses and employ any legal strategies to do so.

Hack a Shack is legal in thee NBA. Lobby to have the ruling changed, but don't expect an opponent to not use it.

Wouldn't be an issue if Reggie could hit his free throws. What's up with that?

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AustinLakePirate wrote:
clippermitch wrote:
Spurs are an excellent organization and are very well coached. You guys handled us well.

However, I lost respect for Popovich this series. Fouling Reggie in the first quarter? Seriously? Hack a Reggie when you're up 12 in the 4th quarter of game 3?

Awwww , Sorry Pop hurt your feelings. The Spurs came to L.A. to win not to make friends. They will exploit any weaknesses and employ any legal strategies to do so.

Hack a Shack is legal in thee NBA. Lobby to have the ruling changed, but don't expect an opponent to not use it.

Wouldn't be an issue if Reggie could hit his free throws. What's up with that?

Don't get it twisted. Feelings are not hurt at all. You guys would have beat us even if you didn't hack Reggie. That's all my point.

Yes it's a legal play and yes our coach is a dumbass for leaving him in. Karma will be a Bitch though when OKC hacks a Splitter and rubs it in your face!

AustinLakePirate
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I don't know that still sounds a little emotional to me.

You're right, next opponent will hack Splitter and it'll piss me off. But really It's Splitter's fault for not executing at the charity stripe. I don't understand how any pro can be less than 50% at an uncontested squared up 15 footer.

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Hey Austin.....

I am a Clipper fan from CA and I live in Austin now. I went to game 2....and I just want to say that the SPURS fans are very classy.

As I walked in the arena looking for my section....I got the looks, but nobody taunted me, talked trash, yelled out any profanities.

As I sat in my row everybody was to the left and right of us were super nice. We were able to hold conversations about the game and each team and in the end they did give me a hard time out of fun, but they still has respect.

PS.....they couldn't stop talking about how much they HATE Laker fans!!! I couldn't agree more.

Best of luck to your team down the road. Hopefully it's either San Antonio or OKC that wins the championship

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Well,,the Spurs are obviously the top tier right now and there is no way around it. I was a bit ticked at pop for playing hack-a-Reggie because you guys should be,,and are,,good enough to win without resorting to the tactic a coach from a worse team would do in desperation. Seems like something the Spurs would never ever do. Seems like a Memphis tactic.

but on the reverse,,I don't know how many saw this yesterday if it was on TV or not,,but Blake got hit real hard in front of the Spurs bench yesterday (maybe the hit that gave him the stitches?) and he was lying on the ground rolling in pain,,but everyone else ran to the other side as play continued. Pop got off the bench and went down on his own and checked to see if Blake was okay,,Blake got up and Pop gave him a pat as he ran back into the scrum. Any other coach I don't think would have done that,,heck Memphis would have kicked him in the head to make sure he was out.

I am curious though,,with the brutal way Memphis fights with occasionally tossing in some basketball how SA would have fared against that. Are they tough enough of fight or would they just use a lot of outside shooting to stay out of the fracas?

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Thanks Austin and much respect! But you best believe we'll be back with a vengeance next year. Thanks to that beat down, we now know what we have to do to get us over the hump. It's now up to our FO to get us there. Clipper Nation RISEN!!

AustinLakePirate
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Memphis is a tough team. I think they knew that the only chance they had to beat the Clippers was with extremely aggressive physical play.

Memphis really capitalized on our injuries last year. I can't say that I was looking forward to having to deal with the Griz in this post season. Not because I thought the Spurs would lose the series but because I knew our boys would get beat up pretty bad -affect the rest of the playoff run.

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AustinLakePirate wrote:
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Don't get it twisted. Feelings are not hurt at all. You guys would have beat us even if you didn't hack Reggie. That's all my point.

Yes it's a legal play and yes our coach is a dumbass for leaving him in. Karma will be a Bitch though when OKC hacks a Splitter and rubs it in your face!

I don't know that still sounds a little emotional to me.

You're right, next opponent will hack Splitter and it'll piss me off. But really It's Splitter's fault for not executing at the charity stripe. I don't understand how any pro can be less than 50% at an uncontested squared up 15 footer.

Dude, hell yes I'm emotional! WTF I've followed this team since 1990 and I've endured many years of losing. When we are good like this year, of course I will be emotional!

Yes, I agree professional basketball players should hit their free throws. We know this all too well.

My beef with Popovich is not that they beat us, it's the way he went about it. You obviously disagree with it but it's the way I see it. You are up 12 with 3 minutes left and you are pretty much scoring at will. Resorting to hack a Reggie is a ***** move!

AustinLakePirate
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I can see where you are coming from. I'm sure Pop just didn't want to risk extending the series. The way you guys can score 12 pts really isn't a comfortable lead. He probably saw the momentum shift and did the most effective thing at his disposal.

I'm not proud of it, but I can't criticize the decision either. The playoffs are war and you have to be prepared to do anything and everything to get the 'W'.

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AustinLakePirate wrote:
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You are up 12 with 3 minutes left and you are pretty much scoring at will. Resorting to hack a Reggie is a ***** move!

I can see where you are coming from. I'm sure Pop just didn't want to risk extending the series. The way you guys can score 12 pts really isn't a comfortable lead. He probably saw the momentum shift and did the most effective thing at his disposal.

I'm not proud of it, but I can't criticize the decision either. The playoffs are war and you have to be prepared to do anything and everything to get the 'W'.

I was at that game. I'm the most loyal Clipper fan and I even called the comeback vs Memphis in Game 1. I can tell you right now, we weren't going to come back from that deficit. We couldn't stop you guys from scoring and we struggled just to get open looks.

Our coach needs to get fired asap! You exploited Reggie's biggest weakness but he never utilized his biggest strength. He should have played Duncan/Diaw/Splitter tougher like he did to Gasol/Randolph. But since he didn't, he had no business being on the floor.

Like I said earlier, your team is excellent. You guys play tough D and your offense is near unstoppable. You've won like 18 games in a row and haven't lost since March 12 or something crazy like that. It's clear Popovich is doing everything right and no one in their right mind would second guess his decision.

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What Pop did only upset me because I feel like he was rubbing salt in the wounds and embarrassing the Clippers further when they had complete control. I understand his bottom line is to be cutthroat and win though.

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One more thing though,,,,,Pop poed us with his hack-a-Reggie and his hack-a- Deej,,,,,,,,,,but the obvious solution at the time would have been VDN to quickly put in Trey or anyone,,,but he didn't.

ekker3
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Neutralize the hack a Reggie with hard basketball fouls on their stars. That's legal too right? Maybe that makes them think twice as to whether or not it's worth it.

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^ yet our so called tough players ( im looking at u kmart and reggie, either committed stupid fouls(kmart) or thought they were indispensible and moved out of the way on D (reggie). i agree ekker, hard fouls would have worked but vdn was a b***h and bowed down to his master...eh i mean mentor lol.

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ekker3 wrote:
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One more thing though,,,,,Pop poed us with his hack-a-Reggie and his hack-a- Deej,,,,,,,,,,but the obvious solution at the time would have been VDN to quickly put in Trey or anyone,,,but he didn't.

Neutralize the hack a Reggie with hard basketball fouls on their stars. That's legal too right? Maybe that makes them think twice as to whether or not it's worth it.

Going to the game I told my wife we should try giving them the Memphis approach as what were doing wasn't working. they didn't but had they...................

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If I was Pop, I would've hacked Reggie too. That's just taking advantage of your enemy's disadvantage. It's boring and frustrating, but I would be upset if the roles were flipped and the Clippers didn't take advantage of a less than 50% foul shooter. Is it cheap? Sure, maybe. Is it cheating? Until they change the rules, definitely not. Props to Pop, the best coach in the league.

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To the OP, I hope you're still here. I have a question. Why did Pop lose his trust in DeJuan Blair? I don't think he played significant minutes at all in the series. He isn't even injured last I checked.

But if anyone elee can answer, I'll appreciate it.

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