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clipper*joe
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chris palmer ‏@ESPNChrisPalmer

Phone is buzzing. Nick Young a Lakers possibility, I'm told.

https://twitter.com/#!/ESPNChrisPalmer

How?

LotsoHope
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I think they'd have to amnesty Ron Ron to make that happen... aren't they well over the cap? Theoretically if they had the cap space, they can offer Young more than we can, but not sure what their salary situation looks like right now with regards to exceptions and such.

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I read his tweets. This guy is just pulling crap out of his ***!

He wrote James Harden to Lakers in 2013? Come on.

Nick Young will want the most money. Lakers are way over the cap and SG is not their priority. I believe Nick Young will either stay with us or he follows the money.

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Nick Young had spurts...but he did not have as huge as impact i expected him to...eh

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It's really hard to make an impact on the bench. VDN didn't even play him in the second half of Game 4 and played Foye instead.

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I don't think they can. They can trade Gasol for free and still be over the cap. That means they only have a mini MLE which is 2.5 million to spend.

They will have a 9 man roster with 83 million in committed salaries.

Maybe Nick takes the 2.5 million?

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Lakers mini MLE $2.5M vs our MLE $5M... does Young want to be a purple and piss THAT badly? I think his agent would talk him out of it.

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Way to go, Jimbo... Spend MORE money on the one position you actually have covered?

Not gonna happen.

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The Lakers just HAVE to snipe someone from us,,then they can brag about how even though we are on the edge of glory and they are on the precipice of despair,,,our players desert to become one of them.

NICK DON'T DO IT, don't fall for their crapola.

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................that is unless of course you, Nick,,want to be one of Kobe's new whipping boys because after all,,he needs multiple players to point fingers at.

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Can they snipe Ryan gomes from us? I wouldn't mind them bragging

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This sounds like BS to me. The Lakers season has barely been over for less than 12 hours. I doubt they've even had exit interviews yet. I can't imagine that they'd immediately target Nick Young, considering how much work that team needs, contract situations, etc. There's no doubt in my mind they're going to shot for a complete overhaul of that team this offseason, so it would make a lot more sense to see what washes out in a Gasol and/or Bynum trade before they start picking up random FAs.

And I'm not sure Nick would want to play for the Lakers if he got a decent contract offer from us.

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Play behind Kobe, coming off bench with lots of nobody having to find a way to create your shot, less money & less playing time

or

Play w/ CP3 who will get you the ball everytime, chance 2 be starter next year, more $$$ & playing time compare to Lakers...

Hmmm...

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If he signs for the 2.5 mil, the Lakers are good. If he asks for more, then it will cost the Lakers double because of the tax. They are so far into the luxury tax they are bleeding money. They need to get an upgrade at the 3 and yes, another upgrade at PG. So with the little resources they have avialable, they have bigger needs than a back up 2. Not that they don't need shooters coming off the bench, they are just going to have a hard time signing players. A blockbuster trade involving Gasol is more likely. Ok, thats it, we can sign and trade Nick Young, toss in Gomes, and Mo, for Gasol. Nah.......

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Lakers can't offer more than 2.5 million even if they were willing endure the luxury tax for him. If he was looking at a new contract from them, meaning he was due for an up, then they could. Young is just a FA so they can only offer the MLE...That's it.

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young would never leave the clippers for the lakers. he's having fun with all these young jokesters on this team why would he go play behind ballhog kobe?

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sounds like a flaker fan is coming up with this scenario. might be the same person who said bynum would be traded for howard straight up. lol. the flakers dont have any financial flexibility to acquire good players, i mean that is why they made the huge signings of troy murphy and josh mcroberts during the last offseason lmao. just with kobe, bynum and gasol they are at 57 million. add blake, methhead and they are at 70 million. that is why they have to sign sh***y players.

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Bynum probably not staying long term in Laker-Land.

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Any rumor we here now is a joke. Nobody is even allowed to contact players.

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clipper*joe wrote:
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If he signs for the 2.5 mil, the Lakers are good. If he asks for more, then it will cost the Lakers double because of the tax. They are so far into the luxury tax they are bleeding money. They need to get an upgrade at the 3 and yes, another upgrade at PG. So with the little resources they have avialable, they have bigger needs than a back up 2. Not that they don't need shooters coming off the bench, they are just going to have a hard time signing players. A blockbuster trade involving Gasol is more likely. Ok, thats it, we can sign and trade Nick Young, toss in Gomes, and Mo, for Gasol. Nah.......

Lakers can't offer more than 2.5 million even if they were willing endure the luxury tax for him. If he was looking at a new contract from them, meaning he was due for an up, then they could. Young is just a FA so they can only offer the MLE...That's it.

Thanks for the update Clipper Joe. With all the CBA changes I can hardly keep track of whats going on regarding contracts without asking EP, or somebody more knowledgeable.......like Clipper Joe.

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not gonna happen flaker nation

gemfow
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Nick Young is inconsistent. The Lakers have enough inconsistent players.

Plus it irks me that every name is attached to the Lakers when the world knows the Lakers are over the salary cap, ESPN is like TMZ.

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gemfow, i know that u would be happy for nick young ending up as a laker. even if u say hes inconsistent, hes much better than all of the players the lakers have outside of their 3 core players in kobe, bynum and gasol. but u are right, the lakers cant get him since they are over the salary cap.

ClipsRoDman
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chris palmer is a moron, he also thinks blake griffin + CP3 to lakers is a possibility right now

bullterrierclipsfan1349
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^lmao. i knew this would come sooner or later. mentioned it in the eric bledsoe getting love thread. wow most of flaker nation and those who identify with them are dumbasses. smh.

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They are dumbasses. Lol. They want lamar odom back. Smile

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I mentioned this as well to laker fans. nick young is not gonna be a game changer. he's a player the caliber of matt barnes and steve blake. young is very similar to these 2 players. why would the lakers tie themselves up with more bench players when the source of the problem is their starters. Pau gasol has underachieved, kobe is aging, bynum had a disastrous game 5 and continues to say things that let the front office know he doesn't care about being a laker. ron artests is 1 elbow way from suspension and ramon sessions is exactly what many felt he was... b level player. from the laker standpoint their biggest problem appears to be the starters so why would they look at adding more bench players when is their starters that appear to be declining. I'm not saying the lakers arent gonna try to make a run at nick but if they did it would not be addressing what really needs to be addressed... their starters

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Nick would do well being our starting 2.

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Who in their right mind would want to play with Kobe? And get yelled at for doing your job and/or passing the ball to someone else?

Kobe's need to be the star and close out games by himself was why that team under achieved. They should have been an inside out power team, but Kobe's ego wouldn't let that happen.

If that's where Nick Young want to go so he can get yelled at too, that's his problem.

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Could we each do a sign and trade, Young for Barnes?

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^Or maybe for their three first round pick and a place for a Ralph Lawler statue.

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I think Nick wants to come back here and will

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Good suggestion Wink

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That may be true, but Young did have his bird rights waived in the trade to come here, which means we can't flat out match a contract that someone offers him.

If someone like Charlotte, Indiana etc etc any team in the NBA offers him a nice, fat deal... he'll take it. I think he wants 7+ mill a year easily, and for a guy that can get to the line, and score 17+ a night that's not unreasonable to ask. Considering he's still got room to grow, he could be "worth" the investment to certain teams. Problem is he's 1 dimensional, he won't give you good defense and he won't pass the ball.

I could see Phoenix going balls out for Young. I would welcome Young back if he took less money to stay here, but I think his contributions during the playoffs helped his stock and he may be too expensive for us.

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Players we acquired via midseason trade that end up going to the Lakers the following season seem to be a trend now. First, it was Vlad Radmanovic. Then it was Steve Blake. Nick Young?

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Lol thing is, if Young goes to the Lakers.... does he start? Do they bring him off the bench? How long before Kobe flips out when Young puts up a 3-20 shooting night and costs them games? I could care less if he went to the Lakers I think he'd do more harm than good there. Young is more than welcome to stay here because I think CP3 puts him in his place, but 2 volume shooters on 1 team is just set up for disaster, considering 1 isn't really that great and 1 is listed as a top 10 player of all time on most lists.

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young stays period !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

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id keep young. i think he would take less money to stay with us. id love to have him back. with a full training camp, better coach and possibly a deeper team than the one we had this season, young can flourish here. hes still a young player who has room to improve.

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Why would you want such trash? He talks big for one of the worst basketball players currently.

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True, Nick is better than any of our ancillary players, however I'm tired of them getting players as free agents. We have a few young guys who need some time to develop. Goudelock is a really good shooter, has a nice floater in the lane and needs some burn to develop. Young guys need time to develop and signing free agents doesn't allow for that. I'm actually ready for the lakers to rebuild, I guess that's why I feel this way.

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the thing with goudelock is that he cant defend. if the lakers did want to rebuild, they would trade gasol for draft picks. i mean u guys had two first rd picks in a deep draft and traded them for hill and sessions. that was a bad move. now you guys only have the last pick of this years draft.

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^^^Goudelock may not be like Shumpert from NY, but he's not a terrible defender. A lot of rookies coming to the L have things to learn, he's not exempt rom that, but he did show me that he can be a decent 8-10 point scorer off the bench with enough minutes who will provide spacing.

Well, the Lakers didn't have much choice in trying to trade draft picks since they wanted to contend now since Kobe may have two good years left so that's understandable. I actually like Hill, most teams can use a big man who likes to do the dirty work, those guys are invaluable IMO. I'm hoping they can retain Hill. Sessions is okay, he needs a left hand and they are using him wrong, he's an open court pg. there aren't too many points in this league who can play in the open court and half court and when they can, they're usually the upper echelon guards, sort of like your pg, #3. So trading those draft picks was a bad move for someone like me because I want them to rebuild, well actually retool.

The lakers have some of the worst one-dimensional role players, and it shows. If we had guys like Foye, Young and Butler then we would still be battling OKC most likely. Mo Williams is talented but he seems to think the season ends in April, it seemed to happen each year in Cleveland, but maybe Brown's isolation heavy offense was the problem.

Speaking of isolation heavy offense, that seems to be what Del Negro is running as well along with pick and roll play with Paul. I'm not big on that because you guys have one pick and roll guard in Paul so he has way too much on his shoulders. OKC uses three guys, MIami uses two so it eases the burden.

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Your assesment of Goudelock is spot on. I am a die hard clipper fan, but i do watch the LAkers games when i can and Goudelock has impressed me. He has the potential to be a good three point threat. Also, i do agree that the team is built for the next two years, so i dont forsee the Lakers changing what has gotten them 16 championships and going young...not gonna happen. They will make a run for free agents, and theres always a team looking to give away free agents to shed salary..good post gemfow

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^^^ thanks for the compliment. Goudelock impressed me as well and it was mind-boggling to me why Brown just sit him down and kept him on the bench. The lakers lack shooting and he can shoot, I hope his confidence stays high.

Well, Kobe's contract is a killer, so the lakers are really in a bad situation. They aren't good enough to win now and then they'll have to rebuild so I personally believe Kobe will retire as a five time champion. The only way they can win another ring is if Gasol is moved and they make a great acquisition or acquisitions for depth. Kupcake is no Jerry West, so the window is almost closed.

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i like darius morris. i was hoping to see him develope but that didn't happen. he barely even played. maybe next season.

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Kuptchak is amazing. He did what he could with what he had. If Stern hadnt nixed the CP3 deal, he would have gone down as one of the best GM's in Lakers history. And thats saying alot because theres some steep competition.

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goudelock can shoot, no doubt about that, but he defends as well as mo williams. actually goudelock is a mirror image of mo. good shooter, below average defender. undersized for the 2, and not a true pg. he can score, but there is a reason why brown sat him down. however, based on how difficult the lakers had it to spread the floor throughout the playoffs, goudelock could have helped them. gemfow, u are actually one of the few laker fans who acknowledge that the draft picks you guys traded was a bad move. most laker fans say "those were late first rd picks" but in a deep draft the lakers could have gotten 2 solid players on the cheap instead of overpaying for people like blake, artest and several others.

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Page C4: well, I look at Mitch's total body of work as a GM. He has a bad habit of giving long term deals to marginal players and then LA is stuck with a player that no team in the league really wants unless that deal is about to expire. Mitch also is quick to sign over the hill vets who come in and just use the practice facility for treatment and we get to see what types of suits they wear nightly. Yes, he traded for Gasol, but what GM wouldn't make a move for Gasol while dropping Kwame Brown? The move I give him credit for is the Ariza trade and we didn't have him for long since his agent thought he was worth 9M per season which was a joke. Maybe I was spoiled by West but I believe a team has to bring in different role players every six years depending on age. Kupchak will hold on to guys way too long until they become an albatross around a team's neck. He could be handcuffed by Jim Buss as well who is not his dad.

Bullterrierclipsfan: Mo and Goudelock are good comparisons even though I feel Mo is a better ball handler and passer so he will look a little more decent playing some pg. I use to really like Mo but one thing I don't like out of players is when they vanish in the playoffs. He just seems to somewhat pull a Houdini each post season whether it's some sort of hangnail or a scratch he suffered on his wrist, time to man up. Early in the season Mo looked absolutely scary, looked like he found his niche with the Clippers then bam he was gone.

I can understand the Lakers trading one of the picks, but both I just don't agree with. Essentially Sessions and Hill are the Lakers late round picks and they actually play like late round picks. Those trades will possibly come back to haunt them because they went all in and fell short and if any team needs to get younger it's the Lakers.

Truthfully, I haven't liked this Laker team for about three years now. They're old and boring to watch and they have too many agendas. Kobe still wants to prove he's one of the best, but to avg 27.9 points he avg'd 23 shots a game. Gasol and Bynum can not coexist, Gasol is so much more than a stretch 4 and Bynum needs to grow up, the two bigs would be able to coexist if Kobe wasn't taking any shot he wanted to take and they're bad shots at that. I'm just looking forward to them rebuilding and I want to see a young team grow together.

This is what you guys have with the Clippers a young team that can grow together and do good things. I think someone needs to light a fire under Jordan's @ss. For the life of me I don't understand how a guy as athletic as Howard and Javele McGee is not averaging at least ten and ten. He has to develop something,a jump hook,jump shot or something. Maybe if he did that he could do Hyundai commercials since Blake has Kia on lock.

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Clippers need to sign one of the following: Courtney Lee, Jamal Crawford, or maayyyyyyyybe JR smith. What other moves do they make?

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lmao. that was funny. and good post. strong analysis of the laker situation. i also agree with the someone light a fire under DJ's ass. ive said that all along. i expect with the proper coaching to see DJ average 10ppg and 12 rpg with 2.5 blocks next season. we dont need the kid to average 20 and 10.

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