Neil leaves because Clippers refuse to fire VDN!

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ClipperSam
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It was reported on ESPN radio by John Ireland. That it was reported that Neil would have resigned with the Clippers had they fired VDN and allowed him the decision to hire the Coach.

If someone can give the link to the podcast.

I was right on target.

VDN is screwing up this team in more ways than one.

VDN should have been fired!

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I have no problem believing that this is what happened, but did we really need another thread on the subject?

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If I had a dollar for everytime clippersam said 'VDN', I'd be able to buy the Clippers. True Story.

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It doesn't matter.......We had something good in Olshey and he left.

CP3 isn't going to sign an extension and I cant see him re-signing with us

If that ends up happening........it was fun while it lasted, but we'll be back to being the sucky ole Clippers!

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Hey guys, no one has confirmed this. Pincus thinks it because he coveted that job more. Remember, Olshey went to Portland looking for that job before his old contract expired. Meaning, the reason wasn't cause he was working month to month. He went there last offseason when he had a contract. I believe that is where he wanted to be.

By the way, it was forehead Ireland reporting on his Lakers show. he's the only guy reporting this. He probably got that from Arnovitz.

-GeoffClankinsDaddy-
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no shock there, neil wants to win. Clippers, dont.

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Mods, please change the title to reflect the source:

John Ireland

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Neil is a huge loss. The extension of VDN was a horrible move and this just cost us our best GM in Clipper history. This has a ripple effect that can cause both BG and CP3 to not resign. Was VDN really worth keeping. Not counting the face that most of us believe that Vinny will never lead this team past the 2nd round. We have a draft with no GM. We need a change of player personall this is the worst time for this to happen. Main reason for most of our problems Clearly reflects us resigning the idiot VDN!

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Exactly! Maybe we could end up just as good as the Blazers did this season.

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I 2nd that!

Agree 1000%

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CJ you are delusional. The Blazers have been a good team and a better franchise than us for a while now. We have one good season, and they have one bad season filled with injuries, and suddenly the Clippers are winners? And just because it's Ireland or Arnovitz doesn't make it automatically untrue. The Clippers are a second rate organization. You can't stand up for every single thing they do, when they do a lot wrong.

And you keep saying he went to Portland when he was under contract. The whole point was that he was working month to month without a contract with the lowest income of any GM in the league. Who wouldn't look at other options at that point?

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Neil is a smart dude Razz i wish him all the best. i hope you like rain. lol. Very Happy

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No, I am not delusional. Olshey leaves a great up and coming team to one that that is rebuilding with limited talent is not what I would call a good situation to win. He has to start6 from scratch on a team with an owner who is known to eat up his GM's if they don't get quick results. Take that for what it's worth. And just because it's Ireland or Arnovitz doesn't make it automatically true either. I just have a hard time believing a guy who is a Lakers cheerleader.

ClipperSam
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It nots just raining its a storm!

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Honestly if I was in Neil's situation , working month to month with the lowest salary in the league for 2 years and I had the chance to shove it up Sterling's bunghole, I'd do it.

Good for you Neil , in my opinion he did the right thing and as always made the right move.Any time you have the chance to work under anybody other than Sterling you take it .

ClipperSam
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I would do the same. Especially if I built the team and can't hire the right leader. I would be pissed 2.

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He was month to month for one shortened season. And he was also the GM with the least amount of experience at his position. So of course his experience is going to reflect his salary.

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I'm sure this was a factor but I doubt it was a major part of what happened

I think he just wanted to be in Portland for whatever reason

He did the right thing for his family sure Sterling should have offered him a contract but what's done is done

He learned his lesson and now if he's going to bring a GM from outside the team they will have to have a contract

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clipper*joe wrote:
-GeoffClankinsDaddy- wrote:
no shock there, neil wants to win. Clippers, dont.

Exactly! Maybe we could end up just as good as the Blazers did this season.

roll

Oh yeah I forgot Clippers are the best team in your eyes, and donald sterling is a good owner, vdn is a good coach, blake is a god in your eyes! Remember when Portland was in the playoffs and we weren't? Yeahhh roll

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Best Post EVER ON CTB

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Joe, I think the situation is pretty good in that they have 2 lotto picks plus lots of cap space to work with. They may not be back in the PO's next year, but that's a franchise that won't be down long, not when you have a LT team winning % of .533 and have been to the PO's 28 out of 42 years.

The owner may be hard on GM's life's, but he'll spend the $ to improve. We'll see.

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Basically, he felt disrespected here and respected there, so he left

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ClipperSam wrote:
-GeoffClankinsDaddy- wrote:
no shock there, neil wants to win. Clippers, dont.

I 2nd that!

Agree 1000%

I swear ClipperSam you are the most annoying person ever you posted this same thing on 3 other threads....the real question is why are you watching Ireland?

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Its funny how people find a way to blame Olshey.

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Clipperfn4lf wrote:
ClipperSam wrote:
-GeoffClankinsDaddy- wrote:
no shock there, neil wants to win. Clippers, dont.

I 2nd that!

Agree 1000%

I swear ClipperSam you are the most annoying person ever you posted this same thing on 3 other threads....the real question is why are you watching Ireland?

Hey if u dont like what I post don't f***** read it. I hate ignorance.

Clipperfn4lf
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^^^

You just need to get over your man-crush on VDN

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tense2 wrote:
clipper*joe wrote:

No, I am not delusional. Olshey leaves a great up and coming team to one that that is rebuilding with limited talent is not what I would call a good situation to win. He has to start6 from scratch on a team with an owner who is known to eat up his GM's if they don't get quick results. Take that for what it's worth. And just because it's Ireland or Arnovitz doesn't make it automatically true either. I just have a hard time believing a guy who is a Lakers cheerleader.

Joe, I think the situation is pretty good in that they have 2 lotto picks plus lots of cap space to work with. They may not be back in the PO's next year, but that's a franchise that won't be down long, not when you have a LT team winning % of .533 and have been to the PO's 28 out of 42 years.

The owner may be hard on GM's life's, but he'll spend the $ to improve. We'll see.

By the way for the record, I know The Blazers have had a merry go round the last few years with it's GM's, but Portland has had the same amount GM's in it's 42 year history as the Clippers have had in theirs...11.

The Clippers have gone through 24 head coaching changes in 42 years of history and The Blazers have gone though 13. Thats the telling story right there.

ClipperSam
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WTF more ignorance!

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BREAKING NEWS:

John Ireland is a f*cking Douchebag who loves to stir up sh*t about the Clippers because it makes idiot laker fans feel better about their own declining team.

To new Clips fans: if you listen to everything fivehead says, then believe the opposite, you're off to a good start.

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Don't blame vdn it wasn't his decision to stay or leave. Blame the cheap bastard sterling who was too cheap to pay for a new coach

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This is ugly- just another poorly handled situation by DTS and whoever is responsible. It's too bad it's come to this, when better proactive measures by DTS this mess (yes, another mess) could have been prevented. I doubt that Olshey left JUST BECAUSE he couldn't fire VDN, but it could certainly have been a factor. When you're a GM and you don't have the authority to make a move to improve the team, that takes away from the appeal of the job. But ultimately it was most likely the proactive recruitment of Olshey by the Blazers that swayed him.

I do wonder what's going to happen now. Is it going to be like the Olshey situation, where we go for a while without a GM and then eventually somebody within gets anointed the title to save $? Or does DTS go and hire a GM quickly and give him a legitimate contract?

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That's Johnny '5 foreheads'. Inspired by the character in Godfather 2.

Frankie 'Five Angels' Pentangeli.

lol

-GeoffClankinsDaddy-
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LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

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ClipperSam wrote:
Clipperfn4lf wrote:
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You just need to get over your man-crush on VDN

WTF more ignorance!

clippersam!

we hear u brother, u cant really listen to 11 thousand and his minions, if only u can read the older post some of these guys have....they enjoy the losing, they love the draft

continue starting posts on vdn, say it has many times as u can to get the COMMON SENSE message out

what ull get is "everyday posters" hating on u, soon theyll ask to merge ur posts, to the " OFFICIAL" ANAL post cause it hurts the everyday posters eyes

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Sterling is a moron. If he was going to undermine Olshey he should have signed him first.

this story would not surprise me a bit if it's exposed to be true.

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DTS most likely screwed the pooch on this one. He always does. If you are so displeased with it well that's DTS. Whether you like him or not, the fact of the matter is hes the owner. No matter what we do or say it won't change anything. So why make such a big deal about the crazy things he does. No one has control over it. I don't understand why so many on CTB are so pissed. Is it because DTS CONvinced you he had changed and you bought it?

tense2
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Yep, you must always remember what team your a fan of, LOL.

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clipper*joe wrote:
cleepers wrote:
BREAKING NEWS:

John Ireland is a f*cking Douchebag who loves to stir up sh*t about the Clippers because it makes idiot laker fans feel better about their own declining team.

To new Clips fans: if you listen to everything fivehead says, then believe the opposite, you're off to a good start.

That's Johnny '5 foreheads'. Inspired by the character in Godfather 2.

Frankie 'Five Angels' Pentangeli.

lol

Nah, man... more like Frankie 'five brain-cells'.

Why any Clippers fan would give this jackass any credence is beyond me.

clipper*joe
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It fits their narrative.

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Maybe he can still help us and trade dj for lamarcus Aldridge

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will gladly tip my cap to Neil Olshey, if for nothing else in fear of looking the proverbial gift horse in the mouth.... he got the Clippers into the playoffs and advanced.... that's more than alot of GMs can say....

that said, he mortgaged alot of draft picks to get it done, he has some substantial salary on the books, and he did it with a coupla few players who are a high risk injury concern, similar to what Mike Dunleavy and Chris Mullin did with bringing in Baron....

he was an excellent salesman.... am not quite sure how much of an NBA personnel man he really was.... thank you Neil and good luck with your new Rose Garden....

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If your not a Clipper fan get out of this forum

Im tired of people negative comments ... If your a true clipper fan u will support your team regardless...

Ricky
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If bringing back VDN was such an issue he wouldn't have agreed "in principle" to return at one point.

tense2
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Is this like...USA love or leave it Smile

There's nothing wrong with constructive criticism or not settling for mediocracy from your ownership. Some people should not confuse that with negativity IMO.

ClipsGForce
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This

tense2
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BINGO!

"Peanut head" Ireland forgot about that little tidbit...oh well just keep spewing though.

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Neil left because VDN plowed his wife.... <~~~ look I can make up dumb stories too

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In reality, how many GM's out there really make an impact? The players are most important and then the head coach. As long as DTS is still committed to paying the players to put a good team out there, any GM can take care of that. I hate Vinny Del Negro, but the classy thing to do is give him 1 chance with a full season and this team. And that's essentially what the Clippers have done by extending him for 1 season.

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frank drummer and ricky, i agree with both of u. i feel the blazers offered more money and since he was already looking to leave for portland, that about sealed it. and to those who keep crying like b*****s about vdn like its the only three letters they know, just give it a rest. im not on the vdn bandwagon, but hes the coach and thats not going to change early in the season unless he struggles, or until the end of next season if the clips dont improve. if cp3 leaves, then thats his choice. i hope he stays, but if there is no extension signed by him and there is a clear indication he wants to leave, then we would have to trade him. i dont want another f****n dwight howard bs situation with cp3. but the point is that we have to give it time and not be impatient with this process. the clips wont change overnight. our history of futility is among the worst in sports, but we are moving in the right direction, even if vdn is our coach. i hope the right roster moves are made by whoever ends up being our gm and we can contend next season. this season was a huge step forward, so to all who keep crying at nauseum, try to remember that.

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agreed.

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