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cleepers
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inventor310 wrote:
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^ Making Blake an outside shooter and not using his strength and athleticism in the paint is like asking Bledsoe to slow the pace... a bad utilization of resources.

Making Blake an outside shooter would do wonders for DJ

and would b to his advantage because teams wouldn't be

able to allow Blake to have space which could possibly help out

his inside game as well... Itll only make Blake Griffin a better

Basketball player. Plus it could help DJ become a better player

because blakes a good passer and becoming an outside shooter

would clear space out for DJ who will never ever ever ever ever

become anything other then a dunker..

We need to invest our $$$ on a SG for the future maybe Allen might not

be the guy but I'm sure there are a few SG's out there we could

make into out 3rd best player.

I think you're missing the point... we have one of the most physically dominant players within 6-feet of the hoop that the league has ever seen. Even if he can improve his jumper to the level of the average SG, we would not be utilizing the very thing that makes him so special. Mid-range shooters are a dime a dozen, Blake Griffin is a once-in-a-generation talent if used correctly.

Should he improve his jumper? absolutely.

Should a jumpshot be his primary weapon? never!

There's a good reason other teams try to relegate Blake to being a jumpshooter... it's because he is unstoppable in the paint. EVERYONE... including DJ, needs to defer to him in the lane. Around the hoop, Blake eats first!

You make it sound as though DJ, not Blake, is the future of this franchise... if they can't coexist, the onus is on DJ to change his game or he'll be shipped out.

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sounds like 2 proven players (mo and bledsoe) for 2 unproven players and an often injured pf (okafor). again, foye is not a pg, hes a combo guard. plus im not too thrilled by delonte west. hes kind of a lunatic. lol.

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obviously I like Terrence Ross and Meyers Leonard.... alot, and yes Emeka Okafor is a huge injury concern, and $27m is a huge amount of dough.... if he's healthy, he fills a big need if KMart takes bigger money somewhere else....

thinkin' that off guard and rotational center w/DJ that can hit a jumper are our two biggest needs, hence Ross and Leonard.... would love to get some of our picks back that Olshey traded away....

and re: Delonte, true enough that I think he'd make a good Clipper, and that said, would prefer Ramon Sessions, albeit he has a player option with the other LA team.... also as you know, like Tyshaun Taylor in the draft, and which would prolly require buying a late first rounder in the draft, and haven't heard any of those teams with their picks up for sale....

and yeah about Foye and his combo meal deal, and no Chauncey 'til January, and that's if the Clipps and him can come to agreement.... puts us in a precarious position at pg, of which I like having Mo and Bledsoe as CP3 insurance.... guess you've got to give up sumpthin' good to get sumpthin' good or better back....

guess bottom line wasn't the biggest fan of bringing in highly paid injury concerns, ie. Paul, Butler and Billups, and would like to see the pendulum swing backwards some via the draft if possible....

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No delonte west. I like Terrence Ross but he'll need time to develop, I think he can turn into a real good player tho. We gotta keep Bledsoe as our back up pg man, foye won't cut it

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All I'm trying to say is we shouldn't make the stretch the floor PF our biggest free agent target. If there is one available for cheap then take it. But we need a player in free agency that can be a starter. And the position that's available for a starting spot on our roster is a SG.! Let's go out and get someone like OG Mayo.! BG can learn a jump shot and help he's game out an would help the team out greatly.! DJ is the one with the contract tho not Blake... But we better sign Blake or else ill shoot myself lmao

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^ That, I agree with. SG is our first priority, THEN a big who can make a jumper/FT.

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ditto

no more oldies unless his last name is Billups.

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I'd be happy if we got Allen, but it would be no great loss to not have him. We have plenty of outside shooters already.

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inventor310 wrote:
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^^ No way we can obtain all those players. Marion, Allen, Young, and Martin will not fill the void of Mo and Foye. No chance of that happening. Plus you have to sign BG and CP3.

By the way, welcome!

Thx....! Evans KMart & Young should take pay cuts..

We're trying to wins championship and if there are too then the smart thing for them is to take a pay cut.. Besides Young KMart & Evans arent getting any younger..

Plus we have the Cash to sign Ray & Marion trade for Mo & Trey(Money similar)

Evans take a paycut?? hes at a vet min...

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MJSF wrote:
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What would it take to obtain courtney lee? Perfect situation. Someone tell me

ditto

no more oldies unless his last name is Billups.

You guys have the old Clippers mentality of finding young players to groom for the future. The Clippers have their big pieces for the first time in their franchise history (CP3 and Griffin). So like the Lakers, Heat, Spurs, etc..., we should be focusing on veterans who have experience and are willing to play for less to be a part of a championship run.

inventor310
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If he doesn't take a pay cut to stay on the team then there's really no reason why we should sign him back.. He's a good defender but undersized and have completly no offense at all...

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With the new CBA you have to have some young pieces and get some vets to take less. SA adds good young talent in teh draft every year and brings them off the bench. They develop them to take the starters place in the future. You need a mix of both. It is why you keep guys like billupss/butler around with some young players. teach them not only how to play the game but the mental part. that is how you develop a championship team.

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Sorry, the Spurs groomed Duncan, then Manu, and finally Parker. They groomed in house to get to where they are. They'll be starting to groom again pretty soon. We have 2 stars, like the Lakers had when they had Shaq and Kobe. The Lakers also went the Yankees route by trying to buy a championship in this current run. That run, under the new CBA will kill a team...Kill a team.

The Lakers are one of the worst teams dealing with the new CBA. The Lakers wished they had players to groom cause the players they have now, won't get you much in return. I think we're one of the best teams set for the new CBA. Just have to maximize the money and fill out the roster will small contracts.

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clipper*joe wrote:
slestack11 wrote:

You guys have the old Clippers mentality of finding young players to groom for the future. The Clippers have their big pieces for the first time in their franchise history (CP3 and Griffin). So like the Lakers, Heat, Spurs, etc..., we should be focusing on veterans who have experience and are willing to play for less to be a part of a championship run.

Sorry, the Spurs groomed Duncan, then Manu, and finally Parker. They groomed in house to get to where they are. They'll be starting to groom again pretty soon. We have 2 stars, like the Lakers had when they had Shaq and Kobe. The Lakers also went the Yankees route by trying to buy a championship in this current run. That run, under the new CBA will kill a team...Kill a team.

The Lakers are one of the worst teams dealing with the new CBA. The Lakers wished they had players to groom cause the players they have now, won't get you much in return. I think we're one of the best teams set for the new CBA. Just have to maximize the money and fill out the roster will small contracts.

Exactly. Plus have young players in place to take Butler's and the sg position as others leave.,

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clipper*joe wrote:
slestack11 wrote:

You guys have the old Clippers mentality of finding young players to groom for the future. The Clippers have their big pieces for the first time in their franchise history (CP3 and Griffin). So like the Lakers, Heat, Spurs, etc..., we should be focusing on veterans who have experience and are willing to play for less to be a part of a championship run.

Sorry, the Spurs groomed Duncan, then Manu, and finally Parker. They groomed in house to get to where they are. They'll be starting to groom again pretty soon. We have 2 stars, like the Lakers had when they had Shaq and Kobe. The Lakers also went the Yankees route by trying to buy a championship in this current run. That run, under the new CBA will kill a team...Kill a team.

The Lakers are one of the worst teams dealing with the new CBA. The Lakers wished they had players to groom cause the players they have now, won't get you much in return. I think we're one of the best teams set for the new CBA. Just have to maximize the money and fill out the roster will small contracts.

The Spurs drafted Manu and Tony Parker so I'm not saying the Clippers should stop drafting players. And the Spurs really didn't groom Duncan...he was drafted #1 and a superstar almost immediately. I'm just saying that we don't go after guys like Courtney Lee and Eric Gordon who have no playoff experience and looking for a payday because our holes should be filled with veterans (who already got paid) looking to take less to win a ring. The Shaq/Kobe Lakers did that with guys like Rick Fox, Robert Horry, Glen Rice, Ron Harper...the list goes on and on.

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