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Well Clipper Joe will just say this isn't true and that he agreed to terms on Friday, but like I said, if this is how it played out I'd renig on my gentlemens agreement too.

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i don't get it. you would think sterling would learn from his mistakes. he's a great businessman but not too bright when it comes to running a basketball team. can't wait til he al davis' outta here.

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"It wasn't about money... the money was a wash"

"I gave Paul my assurance that I wouldn't seek a counter-offer"

But of course we should believe unnamed "sources" over Olshey's own words... goes without saying.

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I'm convinced that DTS will be the first person in history to live forever.

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interesting how it says that dts was being cheap offering 750k. The average gm slary in the nba is 696k. This might of been more a case of portland over paying

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You are aware that I used Olshey's own words, right? Ever hear of the idiom..."from the Horse's mouth"?

Well god damn, Olshey is a liar too? lol wink

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Olshey is only getting a three-year guaranteed contract worth $3.6 million? 1.2 million a year? I thought for sure he'd get top three salaries according to the way some on here praised Olshey and Allen.

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Actually 1.2 million puts him in the top 7. lol

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Like I said dts is a cheap bastard. What now dts apologist? A fukin low balled offer

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He paid him more then average and neil got overpaid for the exp he has.

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Lmao can't wait for clipperjoe to deem la times as a clipper hater and hires bloggers hahaha. What now? Sterling matching a 3.6 mil deal with a 750k offer hahaha come on cleepers and cj is that the definition of matching? Hope u two won't avoid this post hahaha too funny

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http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-cli ... 5550.story

Here is the full link from that blogger from la times read it and weep. Cheapo sterling at its finest

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Where'd you get that number?

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In General NBA on May 14, 2009 at 10:40 am

The Mercury News reports

I've checked around and the word is that Riley got a 3-year deal, worth about $700-800k annually.

I think Chris Mullin as exec VP, was making about $1.5M.

Before Riley's short-shrift deal, the lowest-paid GM was believed to be Oklahoma City's Sam Presti, at somewhere below $900k.

Presti definitely was a hot commodity at the time, and is even more so now, so you'd imagine he took the low money because he got full power.

Anyway, Riley's low salary is probably lower than a few No. 2 basketball ops guys in the league.

If I have my numbers right, Riley's probably making about half as much as the league average for GM/VP-types (whatever you want to call the No. 1 basketball decision-maker), which was somewhere above $1.5M per annum.

Lowest Salary - $700-800k

Average Salary - $1.5mil <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

Highest Salary - ? - Donnie Walsh?

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This all makes sense, why else would he leave Socal and uproot his family?

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tha_situation wrote:
Cruberto wrote:
interesting how it says that dts was being cheap offering 750k. The average gm slary in the nba is 696k. This might of been more a case of portland over paying

Where'd you get that number?

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In General NBA on May 14, 2009 at 10:40 am

The Mercury News reports

I've checked around and the word is that Riley got a 3-year deal, worth about $700-800k annually.

I think Chris Mullin as exec VP, was making about $1.5M.

Before Riley's short-shrift deal, the lowest-paid GM was believed to be Oklahoma City's Sam Presti, at somewhere below $900k.

Presti definitely was a hot commodity at the time, and is even more so now, so you'd imagine he took the low money because he got full power.

Anyway, Riley's low salary is probably lower than a few No. 2 basketball ops guys in the league.

If I have my numbers right, Riley's probably making about half as much as the league average for GM/VP-types (whatever you want to call the No. 1 basketball decision-maker), which was somewhere above $1.5M per annum.

Lowest Salary - $700-800k

Average Salary - $1.5mil <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

Highest Salary - ? - Donnie Walsh?

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if ur number is correct that makes sterling's offer even more appalling

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"I promised Paul (Allen) that I wouldn't seek a counter-offer" - Neil Olshey.

If that's too complicated for you, I'll break it down... The Clippers did not match because Olshey wouldn't even talk to them after he got the Portland offer. According to Ramona Shelburne, they were PREPARED to match.

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Why are we still argueing about this topic? What's done is done, this is just about people trying to prove they're right and others are wrong.

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Cause he wanted to be there last year? Eventually, his knocking on the door payed off.

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Obviously. DTS is a d-bag and Roser is a cretin.

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cleepers wrote:
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Lmao can't wait for clipperjoe to deem la times as a clipper hater and hires bloggers hahaha. What now? Sterling matching a 3.6 mil deal with a 750k offer hahaha come on cleepers and cj is that the definition of matching? Hope u two won't avoid this post hahaha too funny

"I promised Paul (Allen) that I wouldn't seek a counter-offer" - Neil Olshey.

If that's too complicated for you, I'll break it down... The Clippers did not match because Olshey wouldn't even talk to them after he got the Portland offer. According to Ramona Shelburne, they were PREPARED to match.

define cheap owner again lol lol i offer you 3.6 mil. but you should really take 750k hahahahaha.... Ramona? sounds like a kid's book must be a blogger j/k

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This all makes sense, why else would he leave Socal and uproot his family?

Cause he wanted to be there last year? Eventually, his knocking on the door payed off.

it has nothing to do that 3.6 mil >>>>>>> 750k. cheapo sterling at its finest.

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This all makes sense, why else would he leave Socal and uproot his family?

Cause he wanted to be there last year? Eventually, his knocking on the door payed off.

Why did he want to be there last year? ....Clippers insulted with him no contract forcing the man to work month to month for $450K, lowest in the NBA. Next lowest is 700K-800k. That's why he wanted to be there last year.

I think DTS gets a raw deal a times, but this definitely isn't one of them. I highly doubt the Clippers offered the same and gave him the same level of respect, if they had he would never leave sunny socal.

DTS should have offered him the league avg- 1.5 million.

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it was 1.2 million per year which is twice nba salary for a gm lol. Plus dts tried to match so in the end . Dts offered above average. Pd offered top gm money. Dts did the right thing and tried to match. thats all you can do.

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Boy, your eagerness to try and make me look bad is laughable. Learn to read first. That wasn't the match, that was the first offer. The article isn't that hard to read. You're now just looking silly.

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jarca, we'll talk when you learn how to type real sentences... I don't speak gibberish.

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clipper*joe wrote:
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Lmao can't wait for clipperjoe to deem la times as a clipper hater and hires bloggers hahaha. What now? Sterling matching a 3.6 mil deal with a 750k offer hahaha come on cleepers and cj is that the definition of matching? Hope u two won't avoid this post hahaha too funny

Boy, your eagerness to try and make me look bad is laughable. Learn to read first. That wasn't the match, that was the first offer. The article isn't that hard to read. You're now just looking silly.

DTS's supposed clever business tactic backfired on him. Allen gave him near the league avg, made him promise not to get a counter offer and BOOM done deal.

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Where are u getting ur number from? Mercury News says the avg is 1.5 million.

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just avoid this thread like a plague. it's not good for your health

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tha_situation wrote:
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This all makes sense, why else would he leave Socal and uproot his family?

Cause he wanted to be there last year? Eventually, his knocking on the door payed off.

Why did he want to be there last year? ....Clippers insulted with him no contract forcing the man to work month to month for $450K, lowest in the NBA. Next lowest is 700K-800k. That's why he wanted to be there last year.

I think DTS gets a raw deal a times, but this definitely isn't one of them. I highly doubt the Clippers offered the same and gave him the same level of respect, if they had he would never leave sunny socal.

DTS should have offered him the league avg- 1.5 million.

He was still under contract when he went to see Allen in the offseason. Would you give out big money when all you had on a resume was Brian Cook, Foye, and Gomes? How about realizing the pick you gave away turned out to be the first overall pick?

What contract would you give that GM? What about the rumor that Olshey didn't want to trade Gordon for CP3? Please, the guy had fallen into the GM position by default and only had less than 2 years of experience when he left.

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clipper*joe wrote:
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Lmao can't wait for clipperjoe to deem la times as a clipper hater and hires bloggers hahaha. What now? Sterling matching a 3.6 mil deal with a 750k offer hahaha come on cleepers and cj is that the definition of matching? Hope u two won't avoid this post hahaha too funny

Boy, your eagerness to try and make me look bad is laughable. Learn to read first. That wasn't the match, that was the first offer. The article isn't that hard to read. You're now just looking silly.

so is dts cheap??? lol

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so in other words, dts has every right to be cheap with him and even when it's time to offer him a new contract still offered him way below the league's minimum. ok gotcha and dts is not cheap right?

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Nope. He was 9th amongst all owners that spent the most money this season. I don't thinking spending an extra 500 thou a year to match Allen was going to kill him.

Any other remedial questions?

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so is dts cheap??? lol

Nope. He was 9th amongst all owners that spent the most money this season. I don't thinking spending an extra 500 thou a year to match Allen was going to kill him.

Any other remedial questions?

if it wont killed him he would have offered at least the league minimum to begin with.

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I finally got it. Jarca is still mad from this morning so this is way of acting out. problem is, he didn't understand the article.

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jarca, we'll talk when you learn how to type real sentences... I don't speak gibberish.

just avoid this thread like a plague. it's not good for your health

That's the first sensible thing you've written.

Trying to use words to argue with illiterates is a futile exercise.

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jarca wrote:
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so is dts cheap??? lol

Nope. He was 9th amongst all owners that spent the most money this season. I don't thinking spending an extra 500 thou a year to match Allen was going to kill him.

Any other remedial questions?

if it wont killed him he would have offered at least the league minimum to begin with.

Probably wasn't sold on him. Probably the FO office never forgave him for giving away the number one pick? Drafting Aminu? Convincing him to make the CP3 trade? Wasting our cap on Gomes, Foye, and Brain fuking cook?

We'll get to see how great your boy is in Portland.

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awwwww resorting to fantasy since your running out of "fact" that's cute have sweet dreams about me wink

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jarca wrote:
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I finally got it. Jarca is still mad from this morning so this is way of acting out. problem is, he didn't understand the article.

awwwww resorting to fantasy since your running out of "fact" that's cute have sweet dreams about me wink

"facts"...That's the word you want..."facts"

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dunno why you keep bringing up foye when he was brought in to be a back up who in returned hit big shots for us.

brian cook? really..... he was then traded for nick young.

gomes is a bust i give u that.

whether we drafted aminu or george, we would have traded that player to get cp3 anyway.

giving away the #1 pick? we got rid of a cancer in bd and he was applauded for gettin rid of a toxic contract. plus he didnt trade the #1 pick he traded 2.8 chance to get the #1 pick. but of course you hated that trade since you insinuated that the clippers are doomed when we traded bd. plus mo was big this season. we could have easily missed the playoff if it wasnt for his big games.

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clipper*joe wrote:
jarca wrote:
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I finally got it. Jarca is still mad from this morning so this is way of acting out. problem is, he didn't understand the article.

awwwww resorting to fantasy since your running out of "fact" that's cute have sweet dreams about me wink

"facts"...That's the word you want..."facts"

lol lol tank q gramer policce lol

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clipper*joe wrote:
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I finally got it. Jarca is still mad from this morning so this is way of acting out. problem is, he didn't understand the article.

awwwww resorting to fantasy since your running out of "fact" that's cute have sweet dreams about me wink

"facts"...That's the word you want..."facts"

No, Joe... that's the LAST word he wants. He seems to be allergic to facts.

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Joe and cleepers ... C'mon guys ... I love your guys' posts but if ur going to seriously defend the clippers for offering olshey $750 for a 1 year deal ??? Thats ridiculous. ONE YEAR?? That's just disrespectful. Why would u accept a match after that?? Just to deal with the same bs next time???

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Regardless of how bad u think olshey was , he was def. better than a 1 year contract.

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Sean, it was almost a 100% raise and very commensurate with his experience and track record. Plus, it was just the opening offer... by all accounts, Sterling was prepared to negotiate further.

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cleepers wrote:
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Joe and cleepers ... C'mon guys ... I love your guys' posts but if ur going to seriously defend the clippers for offering olshey $750 for a 1 year deal ??? Thats ridiculous. ONE YEAR?? That's just disrespectful. Why would u accept a match after that?? Just to deal with the same bs next time???

Sean, it was almost a 100% raise and very commensurate with his experience and track record. Plus, it was just the opening offer... by all accounts, Sterling was prepared to negotiate further.

Dude but everyone knows that ppl want security and 1 year is just bs.

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U can't go from 1 year 750 to 3 years 3.6 mil or whatever ... " oh ok jk , yeah ur worth that much.... " that's a fukin joke

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Don't u guys see that? Regardless of whether or not u agree with olsheys worth, it's just bad form to open within an offer like that and be willing to match such a high offer days later. ESP considereing the state we were in, just beginning to gain some respectability

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That's all assuming this story is even true. I'm very dubious about unnamed sources when Olshey has said publicly that money wasn't an issue and that he has always wanted to be in Portland.

I have literally been in this exact position with a contract. I've been fortunate enough to be in the position of having 2 job offers. I got low-balled on the job I wanted, so I used the one I didn't want to jack my price up to double the original offer, then took that back to the place I wanted to be - and they matched. It's just how things are done. The trouble is, Olshey didn't want to be here or he would never have promised Allen not to continue negotiations with the Clips.

Anyway, at least you're arguing with real sentences instead of stringing random words and smiley faces together. I can respect your view even if I disagree with it.

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Yeah who knows the truth really? I know what olshey said but what he said is exactly what u wanna say when going to Portland ... Right? The guy is good and very likeable for reason. So when in doubt u resort to history , and that tells me sterling was probably at fault.

I think I just have an extra soft spot for this guy . Over the years , going to many STH events , olsheys , by far, been the coolest. We all loved him. He was kind of our hope, so it hurts to see him leave .

Anyways , I just hope that we land someone good so that I can forget about this whole situation.

Clippers for life.

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^ He's certainly a charmer, I'll give you that. But I don't think him leaving is the end of the world and there's no doubt that Sterling is paying for talent where it really counts... on the wood.

Things are gonna be just fine. 50+ wins and WCF at least... book it! wink

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